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How to Take a10-Day Vacation, a 5-Day Business Trip, Get Food Poisoning, and Still Be Able to Write 42 Posts In a Month

Posted By Guest Blogger 25th of April 2014 General 0 Comments

This is a guest contribution by Karol K of newInternetOrder.com

Just to set things straight… I’m not talking about writing 42 300-word posts. In September last year, I did write 42 web articles in total. Some of them were 2,800 words long. Some just 500. On the average, each article was about 1000 words. How do I know so precisely? Well, I keep a complete record of everything I write.

Having this little disclaimer out of the way, I can tell you the whole story of how I did it, why I’m so proud, and how you can do the same.

The story

Those 42 posts were meant for 3 clients and 2 blogs of my own. Regarding the work for my own blogs, I could just take it easy and not set any stone-written deadlines (I did anyway). On the other hand, the client work is always time-sensitive and needs to be delivered on a specific day no matter what.

There are some elements that add to the difficulty of this whole thing. You can see most of them in the title of this post, but here they are again:

  • 10-day vacation. I stayed in Barcelona for 6 weeks (whole August and half of September). And even though I did keep the normal work schedule, at some point, I decided to take a 10 day vacation and enjoy Barcelona to the fullest. In that time, I did no work whatsoever.

  • 5-day business trip to Turkey. This was another obstacle. Considering that it was a business trip, this meant that I had to take care of a lot of other things apart from writing articles. So, I needed to find a different approach to get it all done somehow.

  • Food poisoning. Oh yes, here’s what reminds me of Turkey the most. As it turns out, Turkish food isn’t good for me at all. That’s about 3-4 days (kind of) out of my schedule again. I’m saying kind of because I did manage to do some work then, but not much. Actually, even less than during my business trip.

So in total, this makes 10 days completely out of the calendar. Another 5 days of half-time working (or even 1/3), and the final 4 days of quarter-time (is that a phrase?) working. In total, 19 days.

But isn’t September just 30 days? Yes, it is.

Oh, and one more thing that’s not making my life easier, I’m a non-native English writer. This means that I have to proofread the hell out of my articles, which obviously takes a lot of additional time.

Here’s how I did it.

Plan first

Everything starts with a precise plan or at least, it should start with one. At the beginning of the month, I knew exactly how much time I will spend on vacation and on the business trip, the food poisoning was the only surprise.

I also knew how many posts I should write (roughly). Now, why is that number not exact? First of all, I had much freedom regarding my own blogs. Secondly, I told one of my clients that I will write around 20-25 posts for him.

Of course, you can’t always make that happen. But if you inform your clients that you’re going to be out on vacation, most of the time, it’s no problem as long as you can deliver the work shortly afterwards (it’s simple freelance marketing 101 if you’re into freelance blogging and not only publishing for yourself).

But let’s go back to the plan itself. So how was I able to create it and even make some room for any “unfortunate” event?

The way I do my planning when it comes to writing is something I’ve developed over time. I basically use one tool – a spreadsheet (a log) of my writing efficiency – fancy name, ain’t it? Every month, I jot down the exact number of words I’ve managed to write each day. So at the end of a given month, I have the total number of words written.

After doing this for a while, I know exactly what’s the comfortable number of words for me per month (and therefore the number of articles as well). And once I have the per month value, I can easily tell the per day value.

So, when creating my plan for September, I made an educated guess about the number of days I’d be able to work and then set the maximum number of words I was capable of writing. As a result, I estimated that 40-45 is indeed a possible total number of articles.

In short, it’s pure math, nothing else. Here’s the action plan if you want to replicate this for yourself:

  1. Start a writing log and record each article/chapter/post you write. It’s best to focus on the number of words, rather than on the number of articles.

  2. Gather data for 2-3 months.

  3. Now you have your personal writing efficiency score, which lets you estimate your performance going forward.

Get the tools and the hardware

At home, I do most of my work on a standard desktop computer. I have a standing desk, and an environment I find really great for focusing my attention and maintaining my productivity.

However, working abroad requires some additional arrangements…

As for the computer, I use a standard laptop. I find working on it way easier than on an iPad, which I also took for other purposes. (iPads are still great for some situations, more on that in a minute).

When it comes to tools, I didn’t even install anything new on the laptop. Whenever I realized that I need a specific tool, I just downloaded it, so there was no extra hassle (most of the tools I use are either free or online).

The only app I made sure I had installed was SugarSync. This really is invaluable. (When I got back home, my work was already waiting for me on my desktop computer automatically.)

The most important point here is to make your work (your posts/content) available remotely. So, double check if everything you need is inside your SugarSync (or Dropbox) account. You can be in much trouble if you’ve forgotten something and don’t have a way to get it.

You probably know this already, but using Gmail is helpful here as well. Gmail allows you to hook up any other email account (even those based on external domains), so you can have everything managed in one remotely available place.

Finally, if you’re doing active marketing while being abroad, Bidsketch is a nice way of handling client proposals (wink!). The tool will help you craft those proposals and make sure that every prospective client receives an offer.

Set the habits

Everything is under control at home. But when you’re abroad, you tend to get easily distracted by all the stuff that’s going on around you.

If you want to remain focused, you have to set some habits and dedicate yourself to keeping them in mind.

For instance, the main habit I keep mentioning in many of my publications is writing first thing in the morning. There’s really no better way to start the day off than by having your work done by 11AM. With this habit alone, you’ll make massive progress no matter what emergency the rest of the day brings.

There’s a really good reason why this approach works. Our brain or our personal processing power, if you will, runs out during the day. We simply get tired quickly. So if you want to get anything important done in a given day, you must take care of it as early as possible. In a sentence, do the important stuff first.

Not surprisingly, for a blogger or a writer, the important stuff usually revolves around writing itself. Hence, write first thing in the morning and then use the rest of the day for other tasks.

The other habit is using your NET – No Extra Time. Your NET is every moment when you’re doing a specific thing, yet you can successfully do something else at the same time.

Now, the most important distinction is that NET does not equal multitasking! Multitasking is the biggest enemy of productivity!

Multitasking is where you devote yourself to doing a number of things at the same time consciously. For instance, when you’re trying to write, answer email, and listen to a podcast all at the same time.

Utilizing your NET is when you’re doing a number of things during a time that is already lost, or time when you can harness different areas of your brain to do the work.

Let me give you two examples of NET:

  • Example #1 (time already lost): You’re on an airplane or at the airport (this obviously goes for any other mean of transportation as well). You’re there anyway, so why not do some writing? This is where an iPad comes really handy.

  • Example #2 (harnessing different areas of your brain ): At the gym. You could listen to an audiobook or an interview, either as part of your research prior to writing an article or just for fun. In essence, when you’re working out, you’re not using the creative part of your brain. You’re just using the simple impulses that tell you to exercise, so there’s still room for some intellectual activity.

And again, because I really want to emphasize this, utilizing your NET is not multitasking. Don’t. Ever. Multitask. Human beings are not meant to multitask.

Noticing your NET throughout the day, on the other hand, and using it to your benefit will allow you to get significantly more things done. I estimate that around 1/3 of my work in September was done during my NET.

Use a project management system

A system sounds like a big deal, but I actually don’t have any better way to call it.

Of course, in some cases, especially if you’re doing a lot of work collaborating with other people, and have to take care of a number of clients, getting an account at Teambox or Basecamp might be a good idea. But just to manage your own work, you don’t need much.

What I use for my own project management is Google Drive (formally Google Docs) and Remember The Milk. I find these tools easy to use, not to mention that they have all the functionalities I require. For a blogger, there’s not much you need… just a way of recording every post you write, task management, keeping up with the deadlines and with the people you’re sending those posts to (e.g. guest posts, posts for your clients).

For some of you, this sounds really basic, but you’d be amazed at how many people manage their work through an email account/software (meaning, tagging certain emails, and then going back to them at random occasions).

The main lesson here is that any system is still better than no system at all. You should at least sign up to Google Drive (available through your standard Google account).

Create the mindset of a winner

This sounds corny, but please bear with me here. When you have difficulty meeting a deadline or some other emergency strikes (like the food poisoning) then the only thing that can save you is your mindset.

And don’t get me wrong, I don’t think I’m any better than you. A mindset is not something we’re born with. It’s something we can learn with time.

For me, the things that work best is imagining the goals that are in front of me and the things I’m set out to achieve. In comparison to all this, a puny food poisoning is simply not enough to shoot me down.

Also, by having your goal in mind, you can get the job done even if you’re not at your full abilities for 19 days in a month.

So this is how I did it. I’m positive that you can achieve similar results, or be even better, especially if you’re a native English writer.

Just to summarize the advice here in 5 simple steps:

  1. Plan first.

  2. Get the tools and software in place.

  3. Set the habits.

  4. Use a project management system.

  5. Create the mindset!

What’s your take on this? What’s your secret of remaining productive even if you know that you won’t be available for a number of days? I’m really curious to get your input on this one.

Karol K. is founder of newInternetOrder.com and a team member at Bidsketch (proposal software). Whenever he’s not working, he likes to spend time training Capoeira and enjoying life.

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Comments
  1. Vacations and trips are very important in this busy world, because it brings more joy and happiness in our lives. The post was great, thumps up.

    • I couldn’t agree with you more. It is easy to get caught up working round the clock, though. We need to pay attention to this.

  2. Great post, Karol, and really appropriate for me right now. I’m not traveling abroad or taking a vacation, but the pollen in Arkansas has been horrible, so I’ve had to assume that I’d lose at least two half days a week and as much as two whole days a week to illness. This is very short-term, but it has been a thing.

    Planning is absolutely crucial. I know that in an average day I can write 5,000 words, if I’m feeling well. I also know that if I have a mild headache I can still probably write about 3,000 words. So I planned for a mild headache every day and the possibility of two lost days.

    The attitude is everything. I took the attitude that if I didn’t feel up to writing, I would study for two courses I’m taking. While I couldn’t study the entire time, there were times when I felt like reading something and taking notes, but didn’t feel like creating original words.

    I am taking a vacation in a couple of weeks, and I do plan to work during part of the time I’m away, so I’ll use your ideas about hardware and software to make sure I’m ready.

    • Wow, that’s a really unfortunate scenario with the illness.

      That being said, your ability to write 5k words a day is impressive. So how many words is that for you per month (on average)? I’m just curious.

  3. When I know I am going to be busy, whether with work or breaks, I tried to write everything ahead of time. I’m going on holiday for 2 weeks next month and it is the longest I’ve spent away since I started blogging. As I’ve been blogging every day for the past few months, I’m terrified of how this may effect my blog while I am away.

    This post has been really helpful though and has inspired me. I’m going to get some researched saved on my computer for some post ideas I have, then I can spend the 9 hour plane ride writing a few posts that can be published while I am away.

    I always try to use my NET to my advantage, but sometimes do try to take too many things on at once. I’m sure I’ll get there in the end and eventually find the right balance for me.

    Thanks again for the post.

    • For your vacation time, don’t assume too much about the volume of work you will be able to do. It’s always better to do the work ahead of time (as much as possible).

      Besides, vacation shouldn’t be about working while you’re on it. :)

  4. Hey Karol, great reading, your writing tone is excellent.. Just checked your g+ profile and it’s clear.. Very experienced writer..

    And about your journey in Europe, you’re simply effective master man :) I should learn more from you.. Saving your bullet points into my memory.

  5. Your post really makes me want to pack my bags and head to Europe. Let me tell you, I feel your pain! I went to Lebanon and got awful food poisoning that lasted about two days.

    “Everything starts with a precise plan or at least, it should start with one.” While reading this post it’s clear that you are someone who plans ahead! I think when people plan big trips, or even want to accomplish a task in general making a specific plan is needed. I always use the calendar on my iPhone or computer to plan out when I’m going to work on projects and guestimate how long it will take.

    “If you want to remain focused, you have to set some habits and dedicate yourself to keeping them in mind.” I think setting habits is one of the hardest things to do, but its a trait really pays off in the end. When it comes to your writing, you were able to set a time to sit down and write. For me, I like doing my work at night. There are some pros to this (like a quiet home) but there are also some cons. (I end up drinking too much coffee). So setting habits should be realistic and will benefit you the best. “So if you want to get anything important done in a given day, you must take care of it as early as possible.” THIS IS SO TRUE! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve made plans only to realize its 4 p.m. and I’ve got nothing done. I have a lot of respect for people who are able to commit to their plans seriously.

    “Multitasking is the biggest enemy of productivity!” Argh, everything you’re pointing out… I do. It’s okay though, because this is a wake up call. I just started writing a response to this and decided to email my professor, and then I decided to check out my Instagram page. Multitasking can be a good thing, but it can also lead to distraction. And I am definitely someone who gets distracted easily.

    I think the most crucial step in your post is “Create the mindset!” It is so easy to write out everything you want plan to accomplish only to not really commit. It’s so important to actually think in your mine “I’m going to do this. I will accomplish these things nothing will get in the way.” If you create this mindset you can have great success in life.

    • Two days isn’t all that bad. You were still pretty lucky. :)

      Yes, I always try to plan ahead whenever possible. What’s good about this is that even if things don’t go as expected, I can still adapt, at least to some degree.

      I can surely relate to the “it’s 4PM and I have nothing done” -scenario. It hits me quite often too.

      I have no love for multitasking. When people say they’re good at it, it’s only an illusion. The fact is that you can always get more done if you do just one task at a time. :)

  6. I use google drive for all my articles to clients. Save all your documents same day and deliver them to clients. This gives you the chance to have document anywhere on-demand. Really good read. I love this article.

    • I agree, Google Drive is great for this purpose. I use it too whenever I need to present something as an actual document.

  7. Karol, as a guy who’s traveled the world for 3 years straight while publishing multiple times daily, these tips are dead on. I use them to prosper too. I write about 7 to 10 posts whenever I fly from NYC to Bangkok, and for the local pond jumpers between SE Asia countries I churn out 1-2 posts during the flight and 1 or so when waiting on the ground, in the terminal. Why fiddle with your iPhone, or tablet, wasting time?

    Write!

    Thanks for the awesome share.

    I am sharing it on Kingged(dot)com, and will also give it a nice thumbs up ;)

    • Writing during a flight does seem almost like an unfair advantage. :)

      I mean, you are in a place that practically makes it impossible for you to do anything else, except wasting time. It’s almost the perfect environment for work. You even get a white-noise kind of thing considering the fact that planes are rather loud.

  8. I love how you’re saying we should not multitask, but utilizing our NET instead. As a woman I’m often told how we’re so good at multitasking as opposed to men, who are not apparently. I think that’s total BS; multitasking is not being productive at all. When I do multiple task consciously it only takes more time and I get not much done.

    I enjoyed reading how you made your standing desk. I have been thinking about getting a treadmill desk, but I wonder if that’s very productive even at slow pace. Overall great article, thank you!

    • Thanks!

      The thing with multitasking is that no one is good at it. It really boggles my mind that employers in general expect us to be multitaskers, even though it’s extremely unproductive.

  9. What a wonderful post! You gave great information regarding your time management and process. Thanks for mentioning the software tools that you use. I’m going to check out SugarSync in particular. I bounce between the desktop and laptop computers more than I should. Your post has helped me move a bit closer to a plan for my own blog and future freelance career.

    Thanks!
    Marlea

    • Thanks!

      Also, if SugarSync turns out not the perfect match for you then check out Box (they recently had 50GB free space if you download their iPad app), or the ever-popular Dropbox, which you probably already know about.

  10. Hi Karol,

    What a great post! Sounds like you had it tough!

    I could not agree more with setting a plan and sticking to it. Its amazing just how much free time this creates (Or time for other tasks). If you tick those tasks off in the morning, you have the rest of the day to do whatever! Love it!

    • I keep saying this all the time, so let me say it again: There’s no better feeling in the world (professionally) than having your work done by 11AM. :)

  11. Karol, thanks for sharing this article. I find morning to be the best writing time as well. I don’t know if it is fatigue but when I write in the evening, the posts require more editing. I workout in the evening instead to make it easier to write in the morning.

    • That’s an interesting point. I never paid much attention to how much editing my posts require based on the time when I write them. I will have to check that out. Thanks!

  12. I had to train my brain and think positive, worrying about soulution rather than problems. The next day, I’m starting a same day delivery mega house.
    Thanks Karol K.

    • A clever thing I once heard was that worrying about things we don’t have any influence over has no point at all. While worrying about things that we can change is probably just as pointless. :)

  13. Man, that is crazy. I struggled writing 5 days a week before. Writing 42 posts in 19 days is amazing especially considering they are around 500 to 1000 words. You are one efficient and focused writer.

    Will certainly take at look at that app.

    • Thanks! But there’s a lot of people that can go way higher than me in terms of the number of articles they write every month.

  14. Carol says: 04/26/2014 at 6:47 am

    I love the infograph on your site about productivity. I hope everyone follows the link for your standing desk. It makes so much sense. The simplicity is genius! Thank you so much.

  15. Karol, it may seem a bit predictable to say “I really enjoyed your article.” But at the risk of being predictable………… I liked the very practical tips (particularly around the comfortable, personal writing efficiency score. I’ve never thought of it, but very straightforward. Kudos!

    • Thanks! And yes, this thing has been really really valuable in terms of keeping my finger on the pulse regarding how efficient I am.

  16. Really great timing for me since I’m planning my first vacation in far too many years for this fall. I am planning to use a virtual assistant to keep up with some things like social media, but as an author the writing is mine alone so that is the most important part of the planning and now that I read your outline I feel pretty good about where I am at this point. Oh, and that unfortunate incident – I experienced a similar incident my first trip to Italy so I know how that tends to stick in your mind.

    • You got food poisoning in Italy? That’s like the motherland of good cuisine. :)

      Anyway, writing still is this one thing we have to do ourselves. However, editing and proofreading can be handled by VAs quite effectively.

  17. That’s crazy man,i think i will be able tow rite only 20 post by doing this.I am using google drive but never used Remember The Milk.

    • You need to check it out. When it comes to productivity tools, RTM is still the best. Also, for a good mobile app, you can check Any.do as well.

  18. You are a machine. 42 web articles in one month? Wow! I really believe in the planning part too. It makes it easy because it is something you can stick to. You are not starting from scratch every day. Hmm, what should I do today?

    • Yeah, that’s another thing. Like you’re saying, a plan is simply a good element to start your day with.

  19. Hey Karol,

    Thanks for the great practical information.
    I’m impressed at the idea of a writing log. I’m going to have to implement this myself so I can get a better understanding of my work rate and when i’ve not been pulling my weight!

    Thanks!

    • Just a quick story. I originally started my writing log just jotting down the number of articles. But then I realized that the number of words is a much better parameter.

  20. Hey Karol,

    This is one of the best posts I’ve read on Pro Blogger for a while now.

    The idea that you were able to accomplish so much in this time is amazing.

    I especially like your advice about mindset – this is so important and once you get this right, a lot of other things seem to fall in place too.

    • Thanks, Adam! :)

      Looking back, I guess that mindset is the main factor here. I mean, without it, no specific tactic can do much for you.

  21. Food poisoning during vacations is really terrible but glad you came through it. I loved your working tips. It’s very important to have such a planning with all the requirements. Loved your article Karol.

    • Thanks! And yeah, why do we always have to get hit with such things when abroad and having a good time, right?

  22. Hey Karol

    First off, thanks for those awesome tactics. As an engineering student I don’t get that much time to spend on my blog. So I badly needed these time management strategies! Thanks again.

    • Thanks!

      It’s usually a good approach to set a specific time for working on your blog every day or every other day. Over time, you will get used to the commitment.

  23. Great post Karol,

    And very much inspiring. Writing is core of blogging. I takeaway your tip “create mindset of a winner”. This makes lots of difference to our mental strength.

    Because most of the time, we are mentally tired, not physically. So a strong mind can do wonders to our abilities for writing more without compromising on quality.

    Thanks so much for this post.

    • It seems that the advice on mindset resonates with people the most. And like you’re saying, recharging our batteries is crucial if we want to achieve anything.

  24. Sorry to hear about the food poisoning. What interested me is the standing desk, as I spend a lot of time throughout the day managing writing projects (currently with 10+ clients) from freelancing – to handle it I hire some awesome writers to write for me lol. I always knew how sitting down too much could be sorta bad for the health.

    About productivity, what I do is organize all my tasks on excel, set a section for tasks that I have to do, such as assign work to a writer or proofread and submit work to client etc, and ascend all the tasks from easier to most difficult. (I find by doing the easier things first it makes me more confident to take on the bigger tasks, like starting with assigning and putting together writing tasks details for writers and then moving on to proofreading and editing 8k + words worth of content composed of 10 or so 800 words and then submitting it to the client… I find it really sets the mood even doing a simple task while making me more eager to complete the bigger tasks! :)

    • That’s an interesting method of dealing with tasks. I actually do something similar. I start with the simple tasks as well, just to warm up, but then I switch to the most crucial task of the day – the one I absolutely need to do. I don’t wait until I’m done with all the simple tasks because at that point I might be too tired to take care of the important one.

  25. That was an interesting read! :) The way those little methods used by the author to boost up productivity, I’m impressed.

    Talking about vacations, I love them! I’m all set to go on a mini vacation after 2 days. I’ll be heading to Mumbai and meet my cousins and relatives! :) Usually, during vacations, I don’t prefer to let any work related matter bother me at all. Like mentioned in the article, I make it a point to enjoy it to the fullest.

    The tips shared, I guess will come handy for people facing time constraints too, I guess. After all, it is all about boosting productivity! :)

    Enjoyed reading the article a lot! I found the link to it on Kingged.

    Arun

    • Yes, like I said, we need to be careful not to be too work-centered when going on vacation. After all, it’s our vacation, right?! :)

  26. Awesome write up. Many face this, writing 42 articles in 19 days. Just Awesome! Enjoyed reading your time schedule. Cheers :)

  27. 42 posts in a month!!I just can’t even imagine to do so much even if I am free and complete OK with my health.That post of you inspired me a lot.Thanks for it.

    • Thanks! It’s actually not that complicated once you dedicate yourself to achieving this goal. I mean, it’s much simpler once you start.

  28. This article has so much to take away as writer. I am very much glad I stumbled upon this article. Its so cool to read about the ideas that went into you writing “42 posts” in just under 19 days.

    And even found a valuable tool SugarSync. I can imagine, even being a non-native English writer. How much tough it is to come with an article and then proof read it to iron out any mistakes. And since you’re featured on Problogger, it really should be great!

    And just like Amal Tlaige said, Your post really wants me to even pack my bag and head to Europe. Except for that food poisoning in Turkey.

    Keep it up Karol and have a great day! And I’ll definitely read your Freelancing 101 article.

    • Thanks! I guess that the toughest part indeed is being a non-native English writer. But it’s nothing you can’t get used to after a while.

  29. I love your story Karol and honestly found the tips very practical… very motivating!

  30. Nice article Karol and thanks for sharing this with us Ryan.

    It’s inspiring and interesting to know how a frame of mind and goal creates your success despite that you are having your vacation. Creating your checklist and plan your daily activities will help you know when or where to write for a living.

    I found this post shared on Kingged.com, the Internet marketing social networking site, and I “kingged” it and left this comment.

    • Thanks!

      Planning is everything. I mean, without it, we can only do what’s currently on our mind – the things we remember, but it’s more than easy to overlook a lot of stuff that way. Planning solves this.

  31. Allison Williams says: 04/28/2014 at 10:46 pm

    That’s a great post. It is important to prepare and maybe even train your body to adapt to new environment if you are visiting a different country or region which is totally different in terms of food habit, atmosphere etc.

    • Yes, that is true. After all, there are people living there, so it’s not like the food is bad in itself. It’s just that some people and their bodies are not used to it (mine included).

  32. Great post! The word counting advice is really interesting as it offers better tume management. I guess I will try it in the next few months, but having to deal with studying as well surely results in lower wordcounts for written posts.
    I think for me the best way to remain productive is to use dead times and make them productive, as this post also explains.

    • It’s always whatever works for you. Word counting is the perfect method for me personally, but that’s just me. :)

  33. Great insights. As you have said they key to success is planning, if we can plan our work more efficiently no matter where we are we can plan to post regulalrly

  34. Great look up on how we can be enjoy life at the sometime be regular on work. Of course if we plan our time we can be successful and enjoy blogging.

  35. I utilize google drive for all my articles to customers. Spare all your records same day and convey them to customers. This provides for you the opportunity to have record anyplace on-interest. Better than average read. I cherish this article.

  36. hi…………..
    You probably know this already, but using Gmail is helpful here as well. Gmail allows you to hook up any other email account (even those based on external domains), so you can have everything managed in one remotely available place.

  37. This is an amazing achievement. I’m so glad you broke down exactly how you did it and expanded on each of those points. Should I ever find myself snowed under with work I’ll be sure to come straight back here and make myself a plan!

  38. Don’t get me wrong – I’m impressed, and I think that it’s great that you managed to get all of those blog posts up. But this seems to be a classic case of overachieving.

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