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How Preparing A Sermon is Similar to Writing Blog Posts

Posted By Darren Rowse 30th of June 2010 Video Posts 0 Comments

On Sunday I preached a sermon at my local church. I used to do this weekly when I worked as a minister years ago – but it’s been a while since I had to do it (funnily enough I find it a lot more nerve wracking getting up in front of a couple of hundred people to speak than writing a post for tens of thousands!).

As I was preparing for preaching last week it struck me how similar my ‘workflow’ for it was to putting together a blog post (although a blog post is usually a lot quicker in my experience).

This video identifies some of the stages I went through last week that are similar to how I go about writing many blog posts.

Notes: See the full sized video here. Video shot on a Panasonic Lumix DMC GF1 (aff) – here’s why I use that camera.

Video Transcript

I’ve had this video transcribed below for those who prefer to get it that way. The transcription provided by The Transcription People.

Hi. This is Darren from ProBlogger. Welcome to another video post. Over the last week or two I’ve been doing something that’s a little bit out of the ordinary for me, but something that I used to do all the time. Those of you who know me and have been reading ProBlogger for a while who’ve read the book will know that I used to work in churches as a Minister and as part of being a Minister I was delivering Sermons every week or two to a few hundred people in a church. Whilst things are a little different now in that I’m speaking to a lot more and I’m writing using text rather than voice, there’s some similarities that I’ve noticed this week in preparing a Sermon, a one off Sermon, to the way that I write blog posts and so I thought I’d share some of the process that I go through in creating a Sermon which I think transfers fairly well over to writing a blog post or preparing a video post.

Selecting a Topic

The first thing that I noticed I was doing last week was just selecting a topic. Actually that was a bit easier for me with this Sermon that I was, I was preaching in the last day or two, because I was given the topic.

The Minister of the church that I go to said, “Darren I want you to speak about work and faith and how they intersect together”.

Selecting a topic can be one of the biggest problems for bloggers, just trying to work out what to write about on a day by day basis. I, what I do is have a folder on my desktop on my computer which just has lots of different text files which have, have titles or main points that I might write. Really what, what those text files are is just identifying big problems that my reads might have. So whether it be my blogging readers on ProBlogger, how to start a blog, how to get traffic, how to monetise a blog, the big sort of picture problems that people have.

On my photography blog it’s, it’s more about how to choose a camera, what lens you might want to add to that camera, how you might hold that camera, how to compose a picture. These are sort of big picture topics that I write about and I identify.

Refining the Topic – Break it Down into Smaller Problems

Then it’s about refining the topic and beginning to think about what you can say in it, and for me this is about breaking the topic down into smaller problems that people might have, and so in the Sermon that I was writing about this week which was on the topic of work and faith, I began to identify some of the key problems that people might have in that area, you know, when their, their work and the choices that they are, are making in their work, clash with their values for instance. Thinking about those sorts of issues within the larger topic, and the same thing’s true when I write a blog post. I try and break it down and identify, you know, maybe two or three or four problems that people have when it comes to that larger problem, larger topic, and what I find is that if you can identify two or three problems, small problems that a reader might have is that you then have your points that you can then work through in the post.

Identify What People Already Know

After that what I then try and do is actually try and work what does my reader already know. A lot of people skip this type of thing but I think it’s really important to acknowledge what your readers already know, because then you can build upon that. They may already know it because you’ve written about it previously and then you can link back to that so that you can build a little a, extra depth into your post, but then, then you can then identify what they don’t know.

Put the ‘Bones’ into Place – Your Main Points

Then what I do in the preparation of a Sermon is start to put the bones into place, I then look at it almost like a skeleton, I try and put some main points in place. It may not be very exciting points at this point, it may not be interesting yet, but they’re main points that I want to make through the preaching of that Sermon or the writing of that blog post. So as I’m writing a blog post I try and break it down into four or five points that I might to communicate over that post.

Flesh it Out – Add Interest and Depth

Once I’ve got that skeleton in place, once the bones are there, you then flesh out and this where it gets fun, this is where you can add illustrations, this is where you can add metaphors or analogies or you can tell a story, this is where you can use pictures so for me this is the part in the creation of a Sermon where I’m, I’m thinking about my PowerPoint and how I can make it visually interesting.

This is where I’m thinking about, you know, bring in Bible verses or quotes from people, this is where you’re fleshing it out, you’re adding muscle, you’re adding depth to your sermon or your blog post. For me as I write blog posts I’m looking at what other people are writing in this area and trying to add quotes, or I’m trying to find a famous person’s quote, or I’m trying to add a photo. This is where you’re trying to make it interesting. Quite often bloggers just communicate their main points but they don’t actually go to the trouble of making it intriguing, making it enjoyable for your readers to, to read.

Refine, Focus and Cull

Once you’ve started to add that depth, what I usually find, particularly when I’m preaching a Sermon is that I usually have too much stuff. Yesterday I preached the Sermon, I had 22 minutes to speak. Once I got the bones and then added flesh to it, I had 45 minutes worth of content, so this is where I began to practice it, I began to actually verbalise it and I began to refine and cull it. This is where I started to remove some of the things that I’d added to add interest because they were actually distracting from the main points and they were making it too long.

So as I’m writing a blog post quite often I do a similar thing. I start to add content to it and then I get to a point where I’m about to publish and then I, I read through it with quite critical mind and look for things that I can take out, things that might be distracting from the main point, things that might be making the post too long. You want to be useful with your posts but you don’t want to actually go over the top with it.

So then you’re at a point that you’re able to deliver it and hopefully if you’ve been practising it, if you’ve refined it you’re able to do that, you know, in a good way on your Sermon and hopefully as your blog post, you’ll have something that people not only can learn from but they also find interesting and intriguing to read. I hope that gives you a bit of insight into how I go about it. That’s the type of blog that I write, I write how to contents so that probably applies a little bit more to that type of content than some other types, but I’d be interested to hear about the processes that you go through in, in the creation of a blog.

About Darren Rowse
Darren Rowse is the founder and editor of ProBlogger Blog Tips and Digital Photography School. Learn more about him here and connect with him on Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn.
Comments
  1. As a newbie in blogging world, i still have a problem, whenever i post an article, i am like in a rush, and didn’t check it many times as other bloggers do or advice, at the end, i have to edit the title sometimes, even the URL, and i know this is absolutely not good. I have to learn more and be patient obviously. Thanks for writing this Darren!

  2. Darren,
    Congratulations on your courage to present your sermon which is as you know a special kind of speech because many people where probably hanging on your every word.

    Over the years I have had the honor of presenting many a presentation on personal and professional development and one idea I use to organize a talk I learned from Dottie Walters and I hope you don’t mind me sharing here.

    The idea Dottie shared with me is to see your speech like the five fingers on one hand. One finger is for the intro and one is for the conclusion. The 3 in between are the core of the speech. Sort of like the acts in a play.

    I find this works for me just like your idea of setting up the bones and adding the flesh (content). I see this idea as also helpful in writing a posting.

    Just thought I would share.

    Enjoy a great day,
    David

  3. Hey Darren,

    Really Super-awesome Post man. I really like the last para “Refine, Focus and Cull” Great Point darren.
    You’re doing awesome Job. Thanks for sharing this great Post.
    Keep up the awesome work.

    ~Dev

  4. You state

    ” (funnily enough I find it a lot more nerve wracking getting up in front of a couple of hundred people to speak than writing a post for tens of thousands!) ”

    This is quite an amazing thing. Do you think it may be just because it’s been a while speaking in front of an actual audience? or is this how you feel regardless?

  5. Hi Darren,

    Nice, helpful list.

    Taking into account what people already know helps keep things fresh. For me, a really nice start to the day.
    devin

  6. Darren, I absolutely agree that the workflow is the same for the preparation piece. I speak on a regular basis and prepare much in the same way.

    If only delivering a talk was as easy as pushing the publish button, huh?

    Cheers!

  7. Yeah, the workflow is the same.. Thanks for sharing this article. Really awesome… Hmm I guess preachers can also be great bloggers :)

  8. Robert says: 06/30/2010 at 9:02 am

    There’s another way they’re similar (for some people anyways): ignore what contradicts your main point.

    The parts in the bible that preach hate and intolerance, ignore them, the part that says you should stone people to death if they work on the Sabbath, ignore it, the fact that religion is no different than a cult, that tries to explain the world through superstition and magic, ignore it.

    Sorry for the bitter tone, but I find it utterly depressing when someone – otherwise – smart and interesting resorts to the nonsense found in some ridiculous old book of myths. What a waste of time.

    • Hi Robert – appreciate the comment. I do feel it’s a bit of a generalization though – you don’t know what my beliefs are or where I stand, I simply mentioned I preached a sermon. Christians come from all kinds of perspectives and standing points on different aspects of faith, scripture etc.

      While you might not agree with some aspects of what I believe (and I’m always open to chatting with people about it but don’t presume to push it on anyone) I’d at least appreciate you not making sweeping generalizations about a person without any attempt to find out what they actually think or believe on a topic.

  9. Wow! I didn’t know you were a preacher. Anyway, I followed your site daily and love it. Keep up the good work.

  10. @Robert:

    Thanks for the way you’ve displayed tolerance of other people’s beliefs and activities.

    @Darren:

    Thanks for the great post. I’d never thought about the correlation but its very close.

  11. I love it!

    I’ve found myself on both sides of this equation as well (sermon and blog), and the similarities were not lost on me.

    I wrote this about a year ago:

    The Top Ten Ways That Being a Blogger is Like Being a Preacher:

    10 – You need new content every week–probably even more often.

    9 – Your subject stays the same, but you still must come up with new ways to say it.

    8 – Every great experience makes you wonder, “How I could incorporate this into a sermon/post?”

    7 – Comments of appreciation mean the world to you.

    6 – Your community is surprisingly willing to support you.

    5 – Your best work motivates people.

    4 – You occasionally get told off for saying what you believe.

    3 – If you go on too long, people stop listening.

    2 – Since not everyone can become one of the “big guys,” you really have to do it out of love. Ideally, you’d do it no matter how many followers you have.

    1 – You still really want more followers.

  12. This is a fantastic post. I’m a Lutheran pastor outside of Boston, MA. I preach and blog and blog my sermons and I find all the similarities you outline here. I also think blogging makes for better preaching – its helps us to capture attention and get to the point. It also helps me to use less churchy and more accessible language. Thanks for this post. I’ve already shared it.

  13. Great summary! You always hear that bloggers are supposed to be the thought leaders of their areas so that would make them shepherds to their flock. I like the shepherd style better than the hard-nosed salesperson in a writer’s clothing.

  14. I usually research what’s going on with that topic and back link all my links to link to the same subject. Pretty much what you said. Thanks.

  15. You had 22 mins to preach a Sermon? Around here, that’s a Super Bowl Sunday sermon. Get them in and out in time for the game. Do you have a video of your sermon or a transcript?

  16. Now this is probably one of my most interesting blog post from Darren, Darren a preacher? HA HA !! Great work Darren and this is true in all cases, whereby you liken preparing a sermon to writing a blog post, of course after you must have gone through all the basics of researching and the like you need to do more to get then best in your blogging

    thanks

  17. @Robert: Robert, are you serious?

    Darren, let that one go through to the keeper.

  18. I have to admit, editing is something I don’t do, but really must start doing. And it’s great to hear that you preached and that you delivered a sermon. I’m a Christian and for me the best part of the services are the sermons. Especially if they’re interesting. We’re lucky to have a progressive minister who often compares god to quantum physics or shows how people of entirely different faiths can work together.

  19. Darren,

    Great list. Pretty much exactly what I go through.

    One other component that I’d include is rumination.

    I’ve spoken three times at my church in the last year (I don’t let them call my speaking ‘sermons’ ;) .)

    Each time the concept came easily. (The last was two weeks ago, during our God in the Movies series, when I used screenwriting as a metaphor for faith. If you’re interested: http://www.crcc.org/messages/list)

    After getting a solid idea in mind, I usually take a few weeks to let it roll around in my head. I sift through different potential subtopics, examples, stories and such. I’ll also do research during this time, to help with my thought process.

    Then the week before I usually write the thing.

    With blog posts, some ideas do move right from concept to article. It’d be difficult for prolific writers to carry around a bunch of ideas all the time.

    However, there are other posts that have been on my mind for awhile, which more closely resemble my speaking process. One currently is on dealing with guilt, which I plan to write in the next month or so.

    Thanks for the blogging ‘sermon’!

  20. Prepare a basic article plan before you start to write.

    That way you get a clear overview of the entire post.

    Leave the post for a couple of hours or days. Then, do the last bit of editing…

    Inspiring video Darren!

  21. I like the advice to go over and remove the extraneous stuff. Sometimes when you write in a blog it’s much more casual and you have a tendency to go off on a tangent.

    Unlike being in school, you usually don’t have anyone giving you very critical feedback on your writing. It’s usually deduced on your own!

  22. Great post! Now we know why your posts are interesting? You really put a lot of effort into them.

  23. Hey Darren,

    Wow this post got people talking! And that makes it a great post. I started blogging – inspirational blog – 2 months ago and over 1,000 people have read my stuff within that time. That helps me build a community, that helps to make me write better. Here’s what I do:

    1.Write about something I will never get tired of writing about
    2.Treat everyday like it’s the first – don’t rehash stuff, find something fresh, if I don’t have it I do something else until I do :)
    3. Have a conversation – people want to be heard not just told
    4. Be generous – with what I have learned, what I haven’t learned (!), what other people have learned
    5. Know when to move on – keeping the theme fresh keeps people interested

    Thank you for everything you are doing to make the Blogging community a better, more informed, fun place to be.

    Keep at it everyone!

  24. Hi Darren,

    I really love this article and had to respond since I’m a missionary and use my internet business to support our missions works.

    Since I preach sermons 2 or 3 times a weeks and do the same for my blog posts I think that both preaching and copyrighting are both similar.

    Copyrighting and preaching are both forms of persuasion.

    Here’s 9 elements of persuasion that can be applied to both preaching a sermon and writing a blog post (The points are similar to yours):

    1. Identification- People like those who are like them in some way.

    2. STORIES are what convince

    3. A logical lead from where you are to a buying decision.

    4. Why in the world should I listen to you!

    5. Testimonials and social proof

    6. Scarcity

    7. People think in terms of benefits.

    8. Why is what you’re offering a bargain

    9. The Guarantee

  25. What a fabulous analogy, Darren! Thank you.
    Can we also say that both sermons and blog posts require a certain ‘dramatic structure’ (if we use fiction terminology)?
    Some change must always take place. Perhaps both the minister/blogger and the congregation/subscribers transform at the end of each phenomenal sermon/post.

  26. Darren,

    I like your suggestions and bookmarked your video as a reminder. Usually I go for a long walk and a core idea comes to me, then I sit down and write it all out. Later I will come back and trim or revise, but I think your method is excellent and will try it.

    As I tend to write “how-to” posts (like you do), I’m trying to keep them informative, and notice that I don’t use the word “I” very often (and will edit it out at times). Do you think using the personal reference in a serious “how-to” adds to the post? Or creates a lack of connection with the reader? I’ll give personal opinions in response to comments.

  27. I am currently training as a pioneer fresh expressions minister in the UK, and I have to create sermons, and have done for the last few years in different respects as a fulltime youth and children’s worker in churches and schools. So my audience has been children, young people, toddler groups, and educating other ministers! I use mindmaps ALOT because I am dyslxic, which means I am able to get to the point of fleshout, focus, cull etc much quicker, and then I just go preach it. To focus I use the SCORRE system: subject, central theme, objective (you SHOULD …BECAUSE or you CAN …BY) then I come up with resources, games, stories to lead people to experience the ideas. And yes, I do this with my blog posts too!

  28. Hey Darren,

    Great post. I didn’t know you used to be a preacher! I’m in children’s ministry, so I make “little sermons” for the kids all the time. This post was great for me. Thanks so much for sharing and keep up the good work!

  29. Darren, didn’t know you are a former minister. Easy to understand why your posts are so inspirational. I think selecting a topic is one of hardest parts when it comes to writing posts. Honesty and truly wanting to help readers always seems to be the best approach.

  30. Robert says: 07/01/2010 at 1:02 am

    Darren, I appreciate your thoughtful response. But I stand behind what I said.

    I believe the world is made a better place – with many divergences and regressions – by belief in history, science, evidence and logic.

    I believe the world is made a worse place by belief in magic, superstition, ideology and infallible leaders (e.g. religion, Nazism, Communism, astrology … the list is long). When people are permitted to use their your own set of facts – removed from reality – bad things usually follow.

    Seeing a good person, like yourself, devote a portion of their time to making the world a worse place, by furthering – or attempting to further – the latter is depressing to me.

    That’s not to say that my personal decisions or actions would survive a similar critique. But I found your post a very dispiriting one, and it moved me to comment.

    Take care, Robert.

    • Respect your opinion Robert but my faith doesn’t drive me to magic, superstition, infallible leaders – it leads me to fighting for justice of those who are oppressed – living with generosity, patience, kindness and inclusiveness – helping those around me to live to their potential etc.

      There are certainly elements of ‘mystery’ in it and things where I guess I have to have elements of faith and trust in unseen – but I am also someone who values knowledge gained by the sciences, history, evidence and logic. I believe in a God who created us with brains and who expects us to use them in making the decisions we make about how we live.

      Happy to chat more about it via email but don’t really want to sidetrack the conversation here.

  31. Interesting analogy! I am also fairly new to the blog world and find myself in a hurry to get my next message out there – when clearly, patience and thoroughness need to prevail. I’ll keep this post in mind the next time I’m writing – doubtful many preachers rush through their sermon preparations!

    laura

  32. Hi Darren,
    Now it makes perfect sense that you were once a preacher! You have always been a supportive, generous person and eager to genuinely help other bloggers. What a fab revelation…

    You pulled together excellent tips on the nitty-gritty of creating a blog or video/vlog post and I am now considering adding vlogs to my blog. I created my first video (pity, I didn’t know to use my lumix and used a canon videocam) for my submission to the Oprah OWN contest – Liz’s own pet show – and overcame my squeamishness about putting my face/voice out there – warts and all.

    I’ve watched your vlogs and have uploaded other people’s videos to my blog posts, but it’s time to add that extra tool to my blog.
    I learned a lot from you during the 31 Day Challenge and I continue to add things you taught us then/now to my blog.

    Thank you! :-)
    Eliz

  33. Darren, I would love to hear your sermon regarding the intersection of faith and work. Is there a link to a podcast or something I can access online?

    Regarding my process for creating a post, here’s a copy of a tip I once posted on my sidebar:

    Recipe for a hearty and nutritious post: Write a draft. Let marinate for 2-24 hours. [Read aloud. Edit. Spell check. Proofread. Edit. Continue this cycle until your piece looks well done, should be brown around the edges.] Spell check again. Publish.

    I absolutely agree with you on the importance of trimming. One of Stephen King’s writing tips: Cut 10% off your draft. I find this really cleans up the post.

  34. Oh, and for what it’s worth, I believe ALL your efforts have a positive affect on this world we live in.

  35. Really enjoyed this post and the perspective. There is much parallel in the two fields and you drawing from past experience is helpful. It should be most helpful as I move forward in blogging and ministry.

    All the best,
    Micah
    San Antonio,TX

  36. This wa a very interesting post. I like the process that you went through to show people how to write quality content. You found a common ground with something with which you wer already familiar.

  37. I can relate to this. I prepare a blog post every day of the week. Then every Sunday I also prepare a sermon.

    Preparing to preach, going to Bible school has certainly helped me in my blogging career and vice versa.

    The beauty about both is that you are spending your time and effort to help and enrich peoples life. That’s what matters.

  38. I am in the ministry and will probably go back and view this video again when I have to write my next sermon. Great tips.

  39. This was a great post! As a newbie, I really appreciate your site.

    I am actually interested in your sermon. Is there anywhere we can read it?

  40. Hey Darren,

    I enjoyed your post about the correlations between preparing for a sermon and writing a blog post. I’m not sure of your particular beliefs but I have been a Christian for 20 years, so I found this post intriguing. A lot of sermons are either very boring in their elaborations or it is just the same story repeated time and again. Being able to take a familiar topic and approach it from a unique perspective is certainly a way to keep yourself ahead of the pack in terms of followers/subscribers.

    Look forward to your next post.

  41. @Everyone: Darren has done a great job modeling a respectful, tempered response (to Robert). The next time you find yourself unfairly attacked, re-read what he said here before you respond, and consider approaching your situation similarly.

    @Robert: Your bias is just that: a bias. There is no evidence that you or I know of in Darren’s conduct or life to suggest that his faith has done anything but make life better for him, his family, and those around him.

    @Darren: I don’t know the specifics of your faith, but I respect it and your approach to it. I think it’s clear that the majority of readers and comments do, as well. Just thought I’d mention it, since I always appreciate the reminder! Thank you for sharing the lessons you’ve learned.

    • Thanks David – I by no means expect that everyone will share my views and understand that on a topic like this people come with all kinds of experiences (both positive and negative) that shape their views. All I hope is that people will be open to both sharing what they think and respecting others to make up their own minds.

  42. It’s interesting that your sermon was on work and faith and you are now discussing your faith at “work” just because you said a post is similar to a sermon. To answer your question, I try to write without being too formulaic. Ideally, I am writing something that might be useful to other people when I am inspired and honest. The challenge for me is creating the time and space to be inspired and focused.

  43. I always find it fascinating to read what people have to say about some of the commonly misquoted passages…so often people misunderstand biblical instructions that were specifically given to be applied in the context of the ancient Jewish nation- never directed at you and me.

    Darren, the thought of you actually sharing a message on the intersection of work and faith is just incredible. I wish I could’ve been there. You manage the delicate balance beautifully.

    I like the concept of breaking your main emphasis down into “smaller problems”. Good thought process. I’m also thinking that my posts would benefit from a little more interest- I tend to get to the point and sometimes forget that I’m not the one reading my own blog. :)

    Thanks for sharing your workflow in both areas- it was helpful to me!

  44. Hi Darren, this is a great way to explain how to write blog posts. An interesting analogy to use comparing blog posts and sermons in church. I’ve been following your blog for a while now and I’m glad to see inspiring posts like this to keep me going.

  45. Being able to take a familiar topic and approach it from a unique perspective is certainly a way to keep yourself ahead of the pack in terms of followers/subscribers.

  46. I really like the analogy too, i think people should put more effort on quality rather then quantity. If you do do the homework about your post you´ll succeed for sure. Going to present this video to my 15 year old student´s.

  47. Kuldeep says: 07/02/2010 at 8:20 pm

    Hay Darren Rowse,
    Sorry because my comment is not related to this post. I have some problem and I am confuse. So I want to share something with you with your blog comment box.

    I am not new to blogging and there was some idea in my mind since 1997 when I was studying in 10th that “there is some way to make money on the internet”. I did not know the way since 2008 because I had not enough resources like internet and computer. So after 11 years, I could know the way of online income with “online marketing”.

    I want to earn approximately $200 per month only and I can live happily with this because I am from India and $200 is approximately INR8500 which is enough for me.

    My problem is that I don’t perfect knowledge on any subject (Niche) so I am not able to decide on what niche should I choose to start blogging. So I want to ask you, Should I start a blog on the niche “How to make money online”?

    Second question is that If I start blogging on this niche, should I write in English or I can get enough online income with writing in HINDI which is my tong language?

    It would be very helpful if you can give me some suggestion to put me my first step in the “successful blogging” because we Indian thinks that “There is no success, no knowledge without a GURU”.

    my email is: [email protected]

    Thank you.

  48. paul cherry says: 07/03/2010 at 9:49 am

    hello pro blogger ,

    its really hard to get a blog that gets lots of hits .

    I write a blog for my school and everyone loves it then I decided that i would make a blog webpage telling people with my observatons of the real world . ive wrote like 5 blog posts and people dont seem to understand my approach to blogs :(

  49. I always thought that what people really want to read are articles on what ISN’T talked about. Awkward topics seem to have quite a bit interest. I think that is what really gets people glued to the screen. Sure it’s not easy to talk about certain issues without offending a lot of people, but that is life.

    Anyhow, good read.

  50. Great post and video.
    What you’ve said about presenting a sermon can be applied to public speaking in general.
    Thanks

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