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		<title>By: Flight fares</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believ online is the only way to go nowadays with bookings, what did we ever do without the net...</description>
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		<title>By: Penance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been looking for a site like this. Check out my site please when you get a chance http://grocery-deals.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking for a site like this. Check out my site please when you get a chance <a href="http://grocery-deals.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://grocery-deals.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point. Check out my site please when you get a chance http://grocery-deals.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point. Check out my site please when you get a chance <a href="http://grocery-deals.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://grocery-deals.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karl Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m new at this and was really hoping I&#039;d end up with some toys for my step-daughter, son, and niece and nephew to play with.  Guess I should&#039;ve started a couple of years ago.

On the upside,  I can start out in this economy without having to compare it to the affluent way things used to be.  While I hate I missed out on the affluent times, I&#039;d also be frustrated if I&#039;d had to &quot;downshift&quot;.  For someone with the frustration tolerance of an Egyptian war god (such as myself), I suppose that&#039;s not too bad a trade-off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new at this and was really hoping I&#8217;d end up with some toys for my step-daughter, son, and niece and nephew to play with.  Guess I should&#8217;ve started a couple of years ago.</p>
<p>On the upside,  I can start out in this economy without having to compare it to the affluent way things used to be.  While I hate I missed out on the affluent times, I&#8217;d also be frustrated if I&#8217;d had to &#8220;downshift&#8221;.  For someone with the frustration tolerance of an Egyptian war god (such as myself), I suppose that&#8217;s not too bad a trade-off!</p>
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		<title>By: Blogbooze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogbooze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The start is always the hardest. but when you got the basics and the track right, money is coming to you like you have never imagined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The start is always the hardest. but when you got the basics and the track right, money is coming to you like you have never imagined.</p>
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		<title>By: fas</title>
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		<dc:creator>fas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I have noticed is that these guys are losing it. You are reviewing products for just a sample. Magazines take $$$$$$ to do that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I have noticed is that these guys are losing it. You are reviewing products for just a sample. Magazines take $$$$$$ to do that!</p>
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		<title>By: titan</title>
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		<dc:creator>titan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting article. No wonder many people love to read your blog because it full with many explaination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting article. No wonder many people love to read your blog because it full with many explaination.</p>
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		<title>By: Drug Rehab Utah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drug Rehab Utah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Companies are doing everything to get their products out there no matter what it takes. It is sad but that is what they are told to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Companies are doing everything to get their products out there no matter what it takes. It is sad but that is what they are told to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so spot-on, I can&#039;t tell you.  I&#039;ve been a film critic for a major daily for 13 years.  On my blog, WeekinRewind.com, I give away a lot of DVDs, which my reps at the studios provide for me (the major giveaways I buy myself).  Lately, the product has been reduced drastically, especially with Paramount, which has stopped even giving out review screeners to those critics who disliked the theatrical releases of their films.  What the hell?  It&#039;s beyond frustrating--and actually, rather stupid, since I&#039;ve written about it on my blog and also for my newspaper.  If they want the bad press--and I&#039;m talking about Paramount here--I&#039;m more than happy to give it to them (not for the giveaways, which I consider an extra bonus, but for review screeners).  I have to do my job.  Without that product, I can&#039;t.  My reps are increasingly rude, which is uncalled for, especially since the combined unique hits on my blog and my newspaper&#039;s site is about 5 million per month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so spot-on, I can&#8217;t tell you.  I&#8217;ve been a film critic for a major daily for 13 years.  On my blog, WeekinRewind.com, I give away a lot of DVDs, which my reps at the studios provide for me (the major giveaways I buy myself).  Lately, the product has been reduced drastically, especially with Paramount, which has stopped even giving out review screeners to those critics who disliked the theatrical releases of their films.  What the hell?  It&#8217;s beyond frustrating&#8211;and actually, rather stupid, since I&#8217;ve written about it on my blog and also for my newspaper.  If they want the bad press&#8211;and I&#8217;m talking about Paramount here&#8211;I&#8217;m more than happy to give it to them (not for the giveaways, which I consider an extra bonus, but for review screeners).  I have to do my job.  Without that product, I can&#8217;t.  My reps are increasingly rude, which is uncalled for, especially since the combined unique hits on my blog and my newspaper&#8217;s site is about 5 million per month.</p>
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		<title>By: Cecelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cecelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post and perspective from a niche different than my own with is baby and kid products.  As a small business owner and blogger, I can see both sides of the fence.  I began in 2007 at the start of the &quot;review blogging&quot; explosion.  And while my site could not continue without products to review since we long since ran out of cool finds in our own household, I can understand companies wanting to target audiences using the best blogs.  As a business owner I see free product as the cost of doing business, and as long as the relationship is mutually beneficial and full disclosure is made, I&#039;m all for professionalism on both sides of the fence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post and perspective from a niche different than my own with is baby and kid products.  As a small business owner and blogger, I can see both sides of the fence.  I began in 2007 at the start of the &#8220;review blogging&#8221; explosion.  And while my site could not continue without products to review since we long since ran out of cool finds in our own household, I can understand companies wanting to target audiences using the best blogs.  As a business owner I see free product as the cost of doing business, and as long as the relationship is mutually beneficial and full disclosure is made, I&#8217;m all for professionalism on both sides of the fence!</p>
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		<title>By: A. Journalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Journalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heavy sigh.

This post--and 99 percent of the replies--is wrong (and not in the sense of &#039;incorrect&#039;) at so many levels ...

What a sad place the world has become. And what a waste we&#039;ve made of the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heavy sigh.</p>
<p>This post&#8211;and 99 percent of the replies&#8211;is wrong (and not in the sense of &#8216;incorrect&#8217;) at so many levels &#8230;</p>
<p>What a sad place the world has become. And what a waste we&#8217;ve made of the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Eat Smart Age Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eat Smart Age Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Monica O&#039;Brien - I&#039;m quite humbled by the fact that my post got you thinking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Monica O&#8217;Brien &#8211; I&#8217;m quite humbled by the fact that my post got you thinking!</p>
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		<title>By: Eat Smart Age Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eat Smart Age Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Matt Robold - thanks for your comment. You really bring great points to consider!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Matt Robold &#8211; thanks for your comment. You really bring great points to consider!</p>
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		<title>By: Eat Smart Age Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eat Smart Age Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michael Hampton - I hear you my friend. I hear you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michael Hampton &#8211; I hear you my friend. I hear you!</p>
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		<title>By: Eat Smart Age Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eat Smart Age Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Di - I&#039;m VERY proud of what I do and I&#039;m happy to chat about my web site until the cows come home.

It&#039;s not the question, but more how they are asked. Also, in many cases, these are publicists I&#039;ve worked with many times in the past.

I don&#039;t own a horse and I&#039;m not on my high horse.

This is base on my experience and my desire to know if other bloggers where dealing with the same situation as I am.

&quot; “what angle this feature will take”? Maybe you’re bashing some touted ingredient, publicists need to expect honesty but also that their product will be cast in a reasonably good light otherwise why participate?&quot; - dear friend I&#039;ve been writing for long enough (I have 3 books that I&#039;ve self published) and I can assure you there are many ways of respectively expose your views about a product that didn&#039;t work for you.

We do it all the time on the site when a product didn&#039;t work for us and we open the floor to readers to see if anyone agrees with us or not.

I hope thins answers your questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Di &#8211; I&#8217;m VERY proud of what I do and I&#8217;m happy to chat about my web site until the cows come home.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the question, but more how they are asked. Also, in many cases, these are publicists I&#8217;ve worked with many times in the past.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t own a horse and I&#8217;m not on my high horse.</p>
<p>This is base on my experience and my desire to know if other bloggers where dealing with the same situation as I am.</p>
<p>&#8221; “what angle this feature will take”? Maybe you’re bashing some touted ingredient, publicists need to expect honesty but also that their product will be cast in a reasonably good light otherwise why participate?&#8221; &#8211; dear friend I&#8217;ve been writing for long enough (I have 3 books that I&#8217;ve self published) and I can assure you there are many ways of respectively expose your views about a product that didn&#8217;t work for you.</p>
<p>We do it all the time on the site when a product didn&#8217;t work for us and we open the floor to readers to see if anyone agrees with us or not.</p>
<p>I hope thins answers your questions.</p>
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		<title>By: MommyBlogExpert</title>
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		<dc:creator>MommyBlogExpert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few others who have commented come from a background similar to mine: I&#039;ve worked in public relations professionally for several decades, both for PR agencies and w/in corporate communications departments of several publicly-held companies.  And I&#039;ve also worked as a freelance writer in print media in the past.  I am now a full-time professional mommy blogger, enjoying growth on my blog http://MommyBlogExpert.blogspot.com which I wasn&#039;t expecting.

Coming from that perspective, I think the following:

PR agencies are doing their jobs when they check creds for media and bloggers -- which I think should both be treated with the same amount of professionalism, scrutiny and respect.  As a PR person, I always targeted my pitches to specific media that were my clients&#039; targets; we didn&#039;t pitch to everybody, only the media we wanted to write about our clients.

True, PR is NOT the same and should not be confused with publicity. However, all publicity isn&#039;t necessarily inferior to PR; likewise all PR is not necessarily superior to publicity. You just can&#039;t generalize because there are those who lack ethics in both courts; there are also both PR pros and publicists that should be held in the highest regard.

I really don&#039;t have a problem with the FTC stepping in to monitor bloggers writing to ensure that they fully disclose how the products they review are acquired and if payment was involved. In fact, I am a member of BlogwithIntegrity.com which was set up before the FTC action, and always disclose exactly where the products I write about have come from.

It does cost money and time for a PR agency to run a blogger outreach campaign on behalf of a client -- that&#039;s why the client pays the PR agency to represent them plus reimburse the agency for expenses related to that effort.  But this PR agency needs to realize that product reviews are just that -- an opportunity for a writer to try out a product and write his/her subjective opinion about it in the media (blog or traditional outlets).  Therefore, samples are essential for anyone who is asked to do a review -- bloggers or traditional media.  Also remember, that just because a product is submitted for review, doesn&#039;t mean that the media outlet is required to write about it.  That&#039;s the difference between believable product reviews and paid endorsements or advertisements. 

Lastly, now that I am a mommy blogger, I&#039;d be remiss not to note here that most mommy bloggers I know (including some very successful ones) HAVE day jobs, in addition to blogging.  And they are not producing much of an income directly from the blog, but from having sponsors or pay-per-click ads on their site. These mommy bloggers might work for an employer or they might do occasional consulting such as I do, but the ethical ones are not blogging about anything that is ever a conflict of interest.  

For certain, ALL media: blogs, traditional media and others need to act professionally all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few others who have commented come from a background similar to mine: I&#8217;ve worked in public relations professionally for several decades, both for PR agencies and w/in corporate communications departments of several publicly-held companies.  And I&#8217;ve also worked as a freelance writer in print media in the past.  I am now a full-time professional mommy blogger, enjoying growth on my blog <a href="http://MommyBlogExpert.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://MommyBlogExpert.blogspot.com</a> which I wasn&#8217;t expecting.</p>
<p>Coming from that perspective, I think the following:</p>
<p>PR agencies are doing their jobs when they check creds for media and bloggers &#8212; which I think should both be treated with the same amount of professionalism, scrutiny and respect.  As a PR person, I always targeted my pitches to specific media that were my clients&#8217; targets; we didn&#8217;t pitch to everybody, only the media we wanted to write about our clients.</p>
<p>True, PR is NOT the same and should not be confused with publicity. However, all publicity isn&#8217;t necessarily inferior to PR; likewise all PR is not necessarily superior to publicity. You just can&#8217;t generalize because there are those who lack ethics in both courts; there are also both PR pros and publicists that should be held in the highest regard.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t have a problem with the FTC stepping in to monitor bloggers writing to ensure that they fully disclose how the products they review are acquired and if payment was involved. In fact, I am a member of BlogwithIntegrity.com which was set up before the FTC action, and always disclose exactly where the products I write about have come from.</p>
<p>It does cost money and time for a PR agency to run a blogger outreach campaign on behalf of a client &#8212; that&#8217;s why the client pays the PR agency to represent them plus reimburse the agency for expenses related to that effort.  But this PR agency needs to realize that product reviews are just that &#8212; an opportunity for a writer to try out a product and write his/her subjective opinion about it in the media (blog or traditional outlets).  Therefore, samples are essential for anyone who is asked to do a review &#8212; bloggers or traditional media.  Also remember, that just because a product is submitted for review, doesn&#8217;t mean that the media outlet is required to write about it.  That&#8217;s the difference between believable product reviews and paid endorsements or advertisements. </p>
<p>Lastly, now that I am a mommy blogger, I&#8217;d be remiss not to note here that most mommy bloggers I know (including some very successful ones) HAVE day jobs, in addition to blogging.  And they are not producing much of an income directly from the blog, but from having sponsors or pay-per-click ads on their site. These mommy bloggers might work for an employer or they might do occasional consulting such as I do, but the ethical ones are not blogging about anything that is ever a conflict of interest.  </p>
<p>For certain, ALL media: blogs, traditional media and others need to act professionally all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Robold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Robold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually don&#039;t have a problem with the question of pageviews or angles.  The brand is looking for coverage and I&#039;m looking for access.

I&#039;ve turned down samples when I felt that the rep on the other side of the equation wanted more control than I was comfortable giving, but for the most part they&#039;ve been pretty good about me saying, &quot;I&#039;ll review the product honestly and would appreciate it if I could use you or one of your contacts to get some additional information before writing the review.&quot;

For me the &quot;pushy&quot; factor is much bigger with getting spammed into oblivion with press releases and the electronic equivalent of glossies with no real meat to them, or reps sending me inquiries about reviews in which they claim to be long-time readers of my blog and then demonstrate that I&#039;m just someone on a list.  I don&#039;t need to feel special, but I don&#039;t appreciate the farce.

I think the market is just in flux.  Bloggers and marketers are both trying to figure out how things work.  It&#039;s not an easy process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually don&#8217;t have a problem with the question of pageviews or angles.  The brand is looking for coverage and I&#8217;m looking for access.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve turned down samples when I felt that the rep on the other side of the equation wanted more control than I was comfortable giving, but for the most part they&#8217;ve been pretty good about me saying, &#8220;I&#8217;ll review the product honestly and would appreciate it if I could use you or one of your contacts to get some additional information before writing the review.&#8221;</p>
<p>For me the &#8220;pushy&#8221; factor is much bigger with getting spammed into oblivion with press releases and the electronic equivalent of glossies with no real meat to them, or reps sending me inquiries about reviews in which they claim to be long-time readers of my blog and then demonstrate that I&#8217;m just someone on a list.  I don&#8217;t need to feel special, but I don&#8217;t appreciate the farce.</p>
<p>I think the market is just in flux.  Bloggers and marketers are both trying to figure out how things work.  It&#8217;s not an easy process.</p>
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		<title>By: Di</title>
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		<dc:creator>Di</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The audacity of PR?  The audacity of YOU.  Why would you be offended by the question of how many page views your blog gets?  If you&#039;re proud of your work you should be proud of your viewership.  It&#039;s shocking to me that that question shocks you.  With tens of thousands of bloggers out there, who&#039;s to say what is read and what is not.  I can pull up your blog and see that it is well done but that tells me nothing about how many people have found it and find it valuable/interesting.  Traditional media had readership stats, why should you not? You probably get the report every month with your web stats, why would you be not willing to share?   Again, it is shocking to me that you are shocked by the question &quot;what angle this feature will take&quot;?  Maybe you&#039;re bashing some touted ingredient, publicists need to expect honesty but also that their product will be cast in a reasonably good light otherwise why participate?  In addition, to think you deserve free everything for nothing necessarily in return is ridiculous.  
Get off your high-horse bloggers.  You know who you are and how well you&#039;re read but not everyone does.  Who could reasonably sort through all the blogs out there?  You should be thrilled to explain what you do and how well you do it before expecting anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The audacity of PR?  The audacity of YOU.  Why would you be offended by the question of how many page views your blog gets?  If you&#8217;re proud of your work you should be proud of your viewership.  It&#8217;s shocking to me that that question shocks you.  With tens of thousands of bloggers out there, who&#8217;s to say what is read and what is not.  I can pull up your blog and see that it is well done but that tells me nothing about how many people have found it and find it valuable/interesting.  Traditional media had readership stats, why should you not? You probably get the report every month with your web stats, why would you be not willing to share?   Again, it is shocking to me that you are shocked by the question &#8220;what angle this feature will take&#8221;?  Maybe you&#8217;re bashing some touted ingredient, publicists need to expect honesty but also that their product will be cast in a reasonably good light otherwise why participate?  In addition, to think you deserve free everything for nothing necessarily in return is ridiculous.<br />
Get off your high-horse bloggers.  You know who you are and how well you&#8217;re read but not everyone does.  Who could reasonably sort through all the blogs out there?  You should be thrilled to explain what you do and how well you do it before expecting anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know anything about beauty products, but I can say that the number of book publishers contacting me to request reviews is increasing. I&#039;ll never have enough time in the day to read everything they want to send me, though, so I won&#039;t likely review anything sent unless the publisher has contacted me first about that specific title and received an OK from me. I have never had to contact a book publisher; they&#039;re apparently actively seeking out bloggers.

I&#039;ve also had to deal with a few of those &quot;pushy&quot; PR people who seem to want me to repost their every press release. I can&#039;t do that, of course. Maybe one of ten, though, will be interesting enough (to my readers) for me to do a story, though, so I don&#039;t really discourage it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about beauty products, but I can say that the number of book publishers contacting me to request reviews is increasing. I&#8217;ll never have enough time in the day to read everything they want to send me, though, so I won&#8217;t likely review anything sent unless the publisher has contacted me first about that specific title and received an OK from me. I have never had to contact a book publisher; they&#8217;re apparently actively seeking out bloggers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also had to deal with a few of those &#8220;pushy&#8221; PR people who seem to want me to repost their every press release. I can&#8217;t do that, of course. Maybe one of ten, though, will be interesting enough (to my readers) for me to do a story, though, so I don&#8217;t really discourage it either.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a beauty publicist, I have a lot of thoughts on this. For one thing, we&#039;ve always included magazine circulations on client reports, to let them know how many people are seeing their placement. We&#039;ve just never had to ask the editors we work with for that number, because circ rates are publicly available. Unless your blog is big enough to be listed in a professional media database, unique visitors stats are not public knowledge, and we have no one to ask except the writer we work with to place the story. Of course, PR people should be polite when asking, but I think it is a perfectly valid question to determine whether the exposure is worth the cost of the product and shipping. These days, clients&#039; budgets are tighter, and they don&#039;t have as many samples to send out. And unfortunately, there are so many &quot;pop-up bloggers&quot; requesting free samples, we have to do some research on the outlet. What else would you recommend?

I also think that a few years ago, no one really understand how to measure the value of these online placements, so never asked about unique visitors, etc. Budgets were big enough that samples were abundant, and clients never asked about the stats because they also weren&#039;t blog/internet savvy. But I also think clients never really valued online placements either, until recently - my clients rarely did. So in a way, I view this as a sign that companies are taking these online reviews seriously - as seriously as print coverage, and that&#039;s a good thing. It may be annoying to answer all the time, but I think its a sign of legitimacy that people are asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a beauty publicist, I have a lot of thoughts on this. For one thing, we&#8217;ve always included magazine circulations on client reports, to let them know how many people are seeing their placement. We&#8217;ve just never had to ask the editors we work with for that number, because circ rates are publicly available. Unless your blog is big enough to be listed in a professional media database, unique visitors stats are not public knowledge, and we have no one to ask except the writer we work with to place the story. Of course, PR people should be polite when asking, but I think it is a perfectly valid question to determine whether the exposure is worth the cost of the product and shipping. These days, clients&#8217; budgets are tighter, and they don&#8217;t have as many samples to send out. And unfortunately, there are so many &#8220;pop-up bloggers&#8221; requesting free samples, we have to do some research on the outlet. What else would you recommend?</p>
<p>I also think that a few years ago, no one really understand how to measure the value of these online placements, so never asked about unique visitors, etc. Budgets were big enough that samples were abundant, and clients never asked about the stats because they also weren&#8217;t blog/internet savvy. But I also think clients never really valued online placements either, until recently &#8211; my clients rarely did. So in a way, I view this as a sign that companies are taking these online reviews seriously &#8211; as seriously as print coverage, and that&#8217;s a good thing. It may be annoying to answer all the time, but I think its a sign of legitimacy that people are asking.</p>
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