Comments on: The Other Side Of ProBlogging: Making Real Money Right From The Start Of Your Blogging Career http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/ Make Money Online Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:03:36 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: fahad http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4774283 fahad Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:46:28 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4774283 Thanks for Your post dear Darren... This is one opportunity that has been given to all bloggers who make just a little bit of money from their blog… i should look for a job right now Cheers Thanks for Your post dear Darren…
This is one opportunity that has been given to all bloggers who make just a little bit of money from their blog…

i should look for a job right now
Cheers

]]> By: The Daily Separatist http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4770538 The Daily Separatist Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:08:01 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4770538 Lara, That answers everything I need to know in detail! Thank you very much! Lara,

That answers everything I need to know in detail! Thank you very much!

]]> By: Lara Kulpa http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4770495 Lara Kulpa Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:37:58 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4770495 @The Daily Separatist - Your questions are quite valid! First, I'd like to address one question because it's one of those "soapbox" things for me, and that's the idea of posting an article you wrote for someone else on your own blog. I've got one word for you: Don't. It's not just bad form, but it's bad for SEO and will thoroughly annoy the first person you wrote the post for, be it a guest post or a paid for post. Feel free to write a blurb saying something like "I recently wrote a post about _________ over at ________ (with a link to it) and would love to hear what you think!" on your own blog, but other than that, just don't do it. That being said, if you take on a "staff blogging" position, I can pretty much guarantee they'll make sure it's entirely out of the question for you to be able to do that. As far as taking on paid positions at other blogs hurting your own, I have one simple suggestion: Don't take on a paid position with another blog that's in the same niche as your own. That way you have nothing to worry about when it comes down to where the more credible content is. When I was blogging for b5media as a paid blogger, I had a total of 3 blogs (over time) with them that were all in different niches than my own blogs. The threat of "crossover" was eliminated. Oh, and as far as "conversion rate" - that's debatable. I've rarely heard of a paid blogging job that allows you to link to your own personal blogs. Some may, but usually that only happens when you're doing a free guest post for them. If that's what you're after, is traffic to your own blogs, then maybe consider offering up guest posts for free, with your only requirement being a link back to your own blog in a byline. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a freelance writer/blogger who also has a personal blog. As long as you respect your "employer". Most have contracts that will outline everything for you. When it comes to a newer blog, take on the job if it's there and leave the job if it's not working out for you. @The Daily Separatist – Your questions are quite valid!

First, I’d like to address one question because it’s one of those “soapbox” things for me, and that’s the idea of posting an article you wrote for someone else on your own blog. I’ve got one word for you: Don’t.

It’s not just bad form, but it’s bad for SEO and will thoroughly annoy the first person you wrote the post for, be it a guest post or a paid for post. Feel free to write a blurb saying something like “I recently wrote a post about _________ over at ________ (with a link to it) and would love to hear what you think!” on your own blog, but other than that, just don’t do it.

That being said, if you take on a “staff blogging” position, I can pretty much guarantee they’ll make sure it’s entirely out of the question for you to be able to do that.

As far as taking on paid positions at other blogs hurting your own, I have one simple suggestion: Don’t take on a paid position with another blog that’s in the same niche as your own. That way you have nothing to worry about when it comes down to where the more credible content is. When I was blogging for b5media as a paid blogger, I had a total of 3 blogs (over time) with them that were all in different niches than my own blogs. The threat of “crossover” was eliminated.

Oh, and as far as “conversion rate” – that’s debatable. I’ve rarely heard of a paid blogging job that allows you to link to your own personal blogs. Some may, but usually that only happens when you’re doing a free guest post for them. If that’s what you’re after, is traffic to your own blogs, then maybe consider offering up guest posts for free, with your only requirement being a link back to your own blog in a byline.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a freelance writer/blogger who also has a personal blog. As long as you respect your “employer”. Most have contracts that will outline everything for you. When it comes to a newer blog, take on the job if it’s there and leave the job if it’s not working out for you.

]]> By: The Daily Separatist http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4770444 The Daily Separatist Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:17:25 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4770444 Please forgive me for bumping an older post, but I came across this and wanted to ask the professionals a few questions. I've only recently started my blog, but due to the economic recession's particularly brutal effect on my area I've considered staff blogging, as well. However, I'm a bit cynical; seems to me that staff writing for another blog would have a possibly detrimental effect on one's own, especially if it's an "unestablished" newer blog. Again, I am unexperienced in this area and was wondering if the "conversion rate" from their blog to yours is fairly good? Also, if you've written an article for someone else, is it bad form to also post that article on your personal blog? Responses are very much appreciated and I apologize for the (possibly) silly questions. Please forgive me for bumping an older post, but I came across this and wanted to ask the professionals a few questions. I’ve only recently started my blog, but due to the economic recession’s particularly brutal effect on my area I’ve considered staff blogging, as well.

However, I’m a bit cynical; seems to me that staff writing for another blog would have a possibly detrimental effect on one’s own, especially if it’s an “unestablished” newer blog. Again, I am unexperienced in this area and was wondering if the “conversion rate” from their blog to yours is fairly good?

Also, if you’ve written an article for someone else, is it bad form to also post that article on your personal blog?

Responses are very much appreciated and I apologize for the (possibly) silly questions.

]]> By: Tommy Kirt http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4767685 Tommy Kirt Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:37:57 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4767685 I would love to do some staff blogging, but I know sometimes I write in that "fancy nancy" method that professional writers love, but which may not be ideal for the widest audience. Plus I know that in my area of expertise there really is no blog market large enough to take on staff for writing their content. I have enjoyed writing for an article site recently, which gave me a feeling of greater responsibility to write quality content than I would normally feel when I write for myself. So writing for others really is a good thing to keep us on our toes to keep producing quality and not to get lazy. I would love to do some staff blogging, but I know sometimes I write in that “fancy nancy” method that professional writers love, but which may not be ideal for the widest audience. Plus I know that in my area of expertise there really is no blog market large enough to take on staff for writing their content. I have enjoyed writing for an article site recently, which gave me a feeling of greater responsibility to write quality content than I would normally feel when I write for myself. So writing for others really is a good thing to keep us on our toes to keep producing quality and not to get lazy.

]]> By: www.glocalwriters.com http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4746446 www.glocalwriters.com Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:58:22 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4746446 I admire your posts; every time I read them , I get lost in your world...wonderful...only word I have I am going to use these tips as well for boosting my blogging career... I admire your posts; every time I read them , I get lost in your world…wonderful…only word I have

I am going to use these tips as well for boosting my blogging career…

]]> By: Judy Cheske http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4723205 Judy Cheske Wed, 27 May 2009 17:23:32 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4723205 Great post. This has been a big dilemna for me, unemployed and needing to make money but wanting to focus on my new blog. I will look into staff writing after reading this article. Another suggestion is Examiner.com - a national publishing organization that is hiring freelance writers in many cities -pay isn't great for me yet but it's another stream and could have significant long-term benefits. Here's a link http://www.examiner.com/about_examiner/ and if you sign up, reference me pls - 7882- Chicago Food Mom Examiner. Thanks. Great post. This has been a big dilemna for me, unemployed and needing to make money but wanting to focus on my new blog. I will look into staff writing after reading this article. Another suggestion is Examiner.com – a national publishing organization that is hiring freelance writers in many cities -pay isn’t great for me yet but it’s another stream and could have significant long-term benefits. Here’s a link http://www.examiner.com/about_examiner/ and if you sign up, reference me pls – 7882- Chicago Food Mom Examiner. Thanks.

]]> By: PraShawn http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4721627 PraShawn Tue, 26 May 2009 11:46:03 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4721627 Great post, but I disagree with floating along with the stream, this shows lack of independent spirit and it sounds like the group thing is more rewarding than the entrepreneurlism powered by a one man army. Do not forget the most famous bloggers started out on their own building the 50000+ subscribers list. Great post, but I disagree with floating along with the stream, this shows lack of independent spirit and it sounds like the group thing is more rewarding than the entrepreneurlism powered by a one man army. Do not forget the most famous bloggers started out on their own building the 50000+ subscribers list.

]]> By: Sandeep http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4719045 Sandeep Sun, 24 May 2009 07:01:57 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4719045 Excellent article and great advice! I never knew that you could make money writing artciles for other blogs as well. I believe, This is one opportunity that has been given to all bloggers who make just a little bit of money from their blog... I think I should go through your job board and look for a job right now! Thanks & Cheers Sandeep Excellent article and great advice! I never knew that you could make money writing artciles for other blogs as well.

I believe, This is one opportunity that has been given to all bloggers who make just a little bit of money from their blog…

I think I should go through your job board and look for a job right now!

Thanks & Cheers
Sandeep

]]> By: Nathaniel Johnson http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4717779 Nathaniel Johnson Fri, 22 May 2009 23:56:02 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4717779 "A month, or six months, or two years down the line, you’ve got a handful of subscribers, a few pennies accumulating in Google AdSense, and a growing sense of frustration" - I love this quote here, sums up the majority of bloggers out there. Never knew about staff blogging though so thanks for this. “A month, or six months, or two years down the line, you’ve got a handful of subscribers, a few pennies accumulating in Google AdSense, and a growing sense of frustration” – I love this quote here, sums up the majority of bloggers out there.

Never knew about staff blogging though so thanks for this.

]]> By: Robby G http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4717769 Robby G Fri, 22 May 2009 23:34:51 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4717769 Amazing advice. Really made me think about freelance blogging. Maybe one day when I get more time I'll look into it more. Really trying to push my own blog though and it's been a difficult ride but I think I'm on the right track now. Thanks for the advice. Amazing advice. Really made me think about freelance blogging. Maybe one day when I get more time I’ll look into it more. Really trying to push my own blog though and it’s been a difficult ride but I think I’m on the right track now. Thanks for the advice.

]]> By: Glenn http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4717738 Glenn Fri, 22 May 2009 22:57:07 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4717738 Great article! I recent started doing a small gig for a site I found on your job board. it's only 5-6 articles a month, but I'm making around $70 per article, and that's more than any of the sites I own bring in. Great article! I recent started doing a small gig for a site I found on your job board. it’s only 5-6 articles a month, but I’m making around $70 per article, and that’s more than any of the sites I own bring in.

]]> By: Mark Stoecker http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4717634 Mark Stoecker Fri, 22 May 2009 20:31:56 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4717634 Ali, Thank you for the great post. I have browsed the ProBlogger job boards before but never thought about it seriously. I'm currently trying to get my own tech blog (http://www.poundbangwhack.com) up and running and turned into a good money-maker. I'm really going to have to reconsider looking at some staff blogging positions to start getting some cashflow early and often. Plus my wife loves to post on her personal family blog so maybe she'd be interested in picking up a position or two. I think it'd be great for her as a stay-at-home mom, especially since we have a newborn at home right now. Ali,
Thank you for the great post. I have browsed the ProBlogger job boards before but never thought about it seriously. I’m currently trying to get my own tech blog (http://www.poundbangwhack.com) up and running and turned into a good money-maker. I’m really going to have to reconsider looking at some staff blogging positions to start getting some cashflow early and often.

Plus my wife loves to post on her personal family blog so maybe she’d be interested in picking up a position or two. I think it’d be great for her as a stay-at-home mom, especially since we have a newborn at home right now.

]]> By: bloggerdaily http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4717291 bloggerdaily Fri, 22 May 2009 13:05:47 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4717291 Wow. This is exactly beyond my imagination! I'm just writing for fun and sometimes get paid for my articles. But I found blogging is more awesome than I ever though. You inspire me to explore more about blogging. Thanks =) Wow. This is exactly beyond my imagination! I’m just writing for fun and sometimes get paid for my articles. But I found blogging is more awesome than I ever though. You inspire me to explore more about blogging. Thanks =)

]]> By: e business corporate http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-2/#comment-4716936 e business corporate Fri, 22 May 2009 05:40:27 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4716936 I was also thinking about staff bogging. It takes a lot of time to build reputation and traffic, not to mention those pathetic adsense clicks not paying anything. This is great advice and i have already sent in 2 article to dumblittleman. Hope my articles are approved I was also thinking about staff bogging. It takes a lot of time to build reputation and traffic, not to mention those pathetic adsense clicks not paying anything.

This is great advice and i have already sent in 2 article to dumblittleman. Hope my articles are approved

]]> By: Bud Hennekes http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-1/#comment-4716888 Bud Hennekes Fri, 22 May 2009 04:49:38 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4716888 Great read! Being 17 I'm trying to keep my options open in regard to making money from writing. My ultimate goal is make a solid income from my blog www.aboundlessworld.com but obviously this is going to take some time. Since I'm going to college next year paid blogging would be a nice method for me to make some extra spending money, and considering I like writing so much it wouldn't be that much of a problem to do on a regular basis. For those who think they don't write well: STOP THINKING and just WRITE. If you read and write everyday it is impossible for you not to improve. Great read! Being 17 I’m trying to keep my options open in regard to making money from writing. My ultimate goal is make a solid income from my blog http://www.aboundlessworld.com but obviously this is going to take some time. Since I’m going to college next year paid blogging would be a nice method for me to make some extra spending money, and considering I like writing so much it wouldn’t be that much of a problem to do on a regular basis.

For those who think they don’t write well: STOP THINKING and just WRITE. If you read and write everyday it is impossible for you not to improve.

]]> By: David Stillwagon http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-1/#comment-4716790 David Stillwagon Fri, 22 May 2009 02:03:22 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4716790 I guess I enjoy writing my posts too much to have anyone write for me. But getting paid to write for other people sounds promising I guess I enjoy writing my posts too much to have anyone write for me. But getting paid to write for other people sounds promising

]]> By: Babak http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-1/#comment-4716728 Babak Fri, 22 May 2009 00:38:08 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4716728 Interesting article. I would say the key is quality. I've been approached by many guest-bloggers but I unfortunately the calibre of their work hasn't been up to what my readers are used to. Perhaps it is because of the nature of my blog in that it requires a certain amount of specialized knowledge. Or maybe that it is a matter of time the right guest blogger finds me. Interesting article. I would say the key is quality. I’ve been approached by many guest-bloggers but I unfortunately the calibre of their work hasn’t been up to what my readers are used to.

Perhaps it is because of the nature of my blog in that it requires a certain amount of specialized knowledge. Or maybe that it is a matter of time the right guest blogger finds me.

]]> By: Make Money Online http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-1/#comment-4716488 Make Money Online Thu, 21 May 2009 20:08:12 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4716488 Well thats a pretty good idea, but then you don't get to learn the basics. Well thats a pretty good idea, but then you don’t get to learn the basics.

]]> By: Barbsawyers http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/05/21/the-other-side-of-problogging-making-real-money-right-from-the-start-of-your-blogging-career/comment-page-1/#comment-4716289 Barbsawyers Thu, 21 May 2009 15:17:12 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=7503#comment-4716289 I've made a comfortable living as a freelance writer for many years and blog to promote my business and because it's fun. I can't understand why anyone write posts for others at such a low rate. Blogging is creating a generation of MacWriters. Fries with that? So sad. I’ve made a comfortable living as a freelance writer for many years and blog to promote my business and because it’s fun. I can’t understand why anyone write posts for others at such a low rate. Blogging is creating a generation of MacWriters. Fries with that? So sad.

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