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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you we were just talking about this in the car two days ago and I was really wondering about the whole mail-to link scenario.  This is very good data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you we were just talking about this in the car two days ago and I was really wondering about the whole mail-to link scenario.  This is very good data.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Kindle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Kindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just came across your blog on Google.  Interesting post, you bring up a few good things to think about.  Good luck with the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came across your blog on Google.  Interesting post, you bring up a few good things to think about.  Good luck with the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/12/06/10-reasons-to-avoid-mailto-links/comment-page-2/#comment-4448349</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Neil Corman - adding anti-spam (that is, something that tries to detect spam, rather than submissions from things without &quot;normal&quot; human visual perception) will be better than adding a CAPTCHA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Neil Corman &#8211; adding anti-spam (that is, something that tries to detect spam, rather than submissions from things without &#8220;normal&#8221; human visual perception) will be better than adding a CAPTCHA.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/12/06/10-reasons-to-avoid-mailto-links/comment-page-2/#comment-4445709</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Kaufman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who will point out site errors to webmasters, I often find the lack of an email address irritating and don&#039;t bother if the contact form is required. Same with ecommerce and other contacts. Don&#039;t make me go through hoops to contact you. Just the other day swapbooks.com had a sql error effectively breaking all functionality on their site that also affected the contact form. There was NO other way to contact them and let them know.

If you want to be contacted, I strongly recommend both options, with an email most important. (If you want to reduce contacts as part of your strategy, then go ahead an use a contact form only. This seems to be your plan and is ok for some sites.)

@rachel_levy: Copy your message and save a copy before submitting - yes, it&#039;s a hassle but I have found it worthwhile for nontrivial contact form submissions. You&#039;ve always heard you shouldn&#039;t use a mailto link? Not from me, you&#039;ll notice. Dubious advice.  

Remember you can append ?subject=&#039;custom subject&#039; to the email address in your mailto links to customize the subject. (People can change it of course.) 

Use your own domain and set up custom email address for specific campaigns and uses. Close (or route to a catch-all address) when the it&#039;s over.  

Gmail users - remember to check your spam folder occasionally. There will probably be some email there that is not spam.

mailto link usability is a problem but not a good reason to not have an email address on your site. Indicate to the user it&#039;s not a standard link or just include the address w/o the mailto (using some of the obscufication techniques noted above).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who will point out site errors to webmasters, I often find the lack of an email address irritating and don&#8217;t bother if the contact form is required. Same with ecommerce and other contacts. Don&#8217;t make me go through hoops to contact you. Just the other day swapbooks.com had a sql error effectively breaking all functionality on their site that also affected the contact form. There was NO other way to contact them and let them know.</p>
<p>If you want to be contacted, I strongly recommend both options, with an email most important. (If you want to reduce contacts as part of your strategy, then go ahead an use a contact form only. This seems to be your plan and is ok for some sites.)</p>
<p>@rachel_levy: Copy your message and save a copy before submitting &#8211; yes, it&#8217;s a hassle but I have found it worthwhile for nontrivial contact form submissions. You&#8217;ve always heard you shouldn&#8217;t use a mailto link? Not from me, you&#8217;ll notice. Dubious advice.  </p>
<p>Remember you can append ?subject=&#8217;custom subject&#8217; to the email address in your mailto links to customize the subject. (People can change it of course.) </p>
<p>Use your own domain and set up custom email address for specific campaigns and uses. Close (or route to a catch-all address) when the it&#8217;s over.  </p>
<p>Gmail users &#8211; remember to check your spam folder occasionally. There will probably be some email there that is not spam.</p>
<p>mailto link usability is a problem but not a good reason to not have an email address on your site. Indicate to the user it&#8217;s not a standard link or just include the address w/o the mailto (using some of the obscufication techniques noted above).</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Corman</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/12/06/10-reasons-to-avoid-mailto-links/comment-page-2/#comment-4445070</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Corman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 03:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the use of contact forms is better, and even so I do get some spam through those forms on occasion.  I just need to add a captcha to help prevent that.

@rachel_levy - Sometime you will find a contact form which will let you send a copy to yourself so you know what you said on the contact form.  Do you think this would eliminate some of the concerns you have without knowing what was said on the contact form as a record?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the use of contact forms is better, and even so I do get some spam through those forms on occasion.  I just need to add a captcha to help prevent that.</p>
<p>@rachel_levy &#8211; Sometime you will find a contact form which will let you send a copy to yourself so you know what you said on the contact form.  Do you think this would eliminate some of the concerns you have without knowing what was said on the contact form as a record?</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 03:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info!  I&#039;ve always heard you shouldn&#039;t use mailto but never new why.  Now I do!

But, even knowing this, as someone filling out forms on a website, I know i don&#039;t like it.  I like to have a reminder of exactly what I said, when when I sent it.  That&#039;s lost with a contact form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info!  I&#8217;ve always heard you shouldn&#8217;t use mailto but never new why.  Now I do!</p>
<p>But, even knowing this, as someone filling out forms on a website, I know i don&#8217;t like it.  I like to have a reminder of exactly what I said, when when I sent it.  That&#8217;s lost with a contact form.</p>
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		<title>By: World's Craziest</title>
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		<dc:creator>World's Craziest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ben Barden - Blog Tips  It works even better than how it sounds.  Right now, this method works like a charm but in the future things will change as bots will be very good at reading images.

@Sangesh  I&#039;ve also heard that there are talented bots out there that are smart enough to read most of the cloaking methods that are practiced.  No bot is smart enough to read an email address that is broken up into 2 or 3 separate images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ben Barden &#8211; Blog Tips  It works even better than how it sounds.  Right now, this method works like a charm but in the future things will change as bots will be very good at reading images.</p>
<p>@Sangesh  I&#8217;ve also heard that there are talented bots out there that are smart enough to read most of the cloaking methods that are practiced.  No bot is smart enough to read an email address that is broken up into 2 or 3 separate images.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing is more aggravating than stumbling across an otherwise awesome blog and not having any means to contact the author directly.  I prefer a Contact page with a fillable form, but while our site does have that, we also included a mailto link.

However, to reduce the likelihood of mailto link being harvested by spammers, there are a couple of easy tricks.  Since email harvesting programs generally look for an “@” sign followed by something that looks like a domain name, robo@2dolphins.com is just the kind of juicy string harvesters love. A simple solution is an encoding substitution. Browsers can readily handle “%40″ instead of an “@” and a “%2e” instead of a “.” character. So, robo%402dolphins%2ecom is interpreted the same as robo@2dolphins.com. Although this isn’t foolproof, this has been pretty effective at preventing spammers from getting our email address from mailto links for several years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing is more aggravating than stumbling across an otherwise awesome blog and not having any means to contact the author directly.  I prefer a Contact page with a fillable form, but while our site does have that, we also included a mailto link.</p>
<p>However, to reduce the likelihood of mailto link being harvested by spammers, there are a couple of easy tricks.  Since email harvesting programs generally look for an “@” sign followed by something that looks like a domain name, <a href="mailto:robo@2dolphins.com">robo@2dolphins.com</a> is just the kind of juicy string harvesters love. A simple solution is an encoding substitution. Browsers can readily handle “%40″ instead of an “@” and a “%2e” instead of a “.” character. So, robo%402dolphins%2ecom is interpreted the same as <a href="mailto:robo@2dolphins.com">robo@2dolphins.com</a>. Although this isn’t foolproof, this has been pretty effective at preventing spammers from getting our email address from mailto links for several years.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Barden - Blog Tips</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/12/06/10-reasons-to-avoid-mailto-links/comment-page-2/#comment-4417835</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Barden - Blog Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - as a lot of people have said above, when a mailto link opens an email client that you don&#039;t use, that is a negative experience for the user.

This is not a black and white case - I&#039;m happy to agree it goes both ways - but I can&#039;t possibly agree that mailto links work for 100% of users, 100% of the time.

It would be beneficial to hear some reasons why, in your view, the concerns I listed above do not stack up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211; as a lot of people have said above, when a mailto link opens an email client that you don&#8217;t use, that is a negative experience for the user.</p>
<p>This is not a black and white case &#8211; I&#8217;m happy to agree it goes both ways &#8211; but I can&#8217;t possibly agree that mailto links work for 100% of users, 100% of the time.</p>
<p>It would be beneficial to hear some reasons why, in your view, the concerns I listed above do not stack up.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hamill</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hamill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Rarst. If you want to prioritise your own convenience over your users then feel free not to use it. 

If you want an easy life, don&#039;t bother having a website. Then nobody will bother you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rarst. If you want to prioritise your own convenience over your users then feel free not to use it. </p>
<p>If you want an easy life, don&#8217;t bother having a website. Then nobody will bother you.</p>
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		<title>By: fragileheart</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/12/06/10-reasons-to-avoid-mailto-links/comment-page-2/#comment-4407496</link>
		<dc:creator>fragileheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried commenting here the day this post went live, but it was just not working for me and now everything I wanted to say has been said.

I type out my email address including full words for the symbol and period... I haven&#039;t considered an image because its not like it will save me from typing.

Anyway, great job Ben!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried commenting here the day this post went live, but it was just not working for me and now everything I wanted to say has been said.</p>
<p>I type out my email address including full words for the symbol and period&#8230; I haven&#8217;t considered an image because its not like it will save me from typing.</p>
<p>Anyway, great job Ben!</p>
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		<title>By: web designer Kathaperumal</title>
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		<dc:creator>web designer Kathaperumal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for introducing the site &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.toptenblogtips.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Top 10 Blog Tips&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; thru this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for introducing the site <a href="http://www.toptenblogtips.com" rel="nofollow"><b>Top 10 Blog Tips</b></a> thru this article.</p>
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		<title>By: German Romance</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/12/06/10-reasons-to-avoid-mailto-links/comment-page-2/#comment-4399859</link>
		<dc:creator>German Romance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using Gmail and their spam filter is top quality, never get any spam. I have my email address hidden in my contact form, so when people are contacting me they will not see my email address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using Gmail and their spam filter is top quality, never get any spam. I have my email address hidden in my contact form, so when people are contacting me they will not see my email address.</p>
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		<title>By: uwak</title>
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		<dc:creator>uwak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am agree with you darren......we must consider many factor with plus and minus....thanks for great tips</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am agree with you darren&#8230;&#8230;we must consider many factor with plus and minus&#8230;.thanks for great tips</p>
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		<title>By: Zander Chance</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/12/06/10-reasons-to-avoid-mailto-links/comment-page-1/#comment-4397740</link>
		<dc:creator>Zander Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My biggest concern is spam, so I use the Transpose Email Plugin (http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/transpose-email-plugin/), which uses Javascript to mask the e-mail address from scrapers.

I&#039;ve used contact forms in the past, but on some of my sites, I just don&#039;t want the overhead that the Contact Plugins use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biggest concern is spam, so I use the Transpose Email Plugin (<a href="http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/transpose-email-plugin/" rel="nofollow">http://ajaydsouza.com/wordpress/plugins/transpose-email-plugin/</a>), which uses Javascript to mask the e-mail address from scrapers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used contact forms in the past, but on some of my sites, I just don&#8217;t want the overhead that the Contact Plugins use.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Offerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Offerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find general contact forms terribly annoying. 

A web form is fine when you&#039;re an insurance company and you need a whole bunch of specifics from me before you can send me my policy... but don&#039;t make me jump through hoops just to send you an e-mail!

I&#039;ll either mail you from my mail client (which also keeps track of my history, bundles together e-mail conversations, etc) or I don&#039;t mail you at all. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find general contact forms terribly annoying. </p>
<p>A web form is fine when you&#8217;re an insurance company and you need a whole bunch of specifics from me before you can send me my policy&#8230; but don&#8217;t make me jump through hoops just to send you an e-mail!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll either mail you from my mail client (which also keeps track of my history, bundles together e-mail conversations, etc) or I don&#8217;t mail you at all. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Takumi86</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takumi86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of your point really hit on the spot, and i admit that too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of your point really hit on the spot, and i admit that too</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastián</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastián</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 13:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, your suggestion is good, but you are kind of thinking backwards: at the moment I stand in front of a contact form, I don&#039;t know if I will receive a confirmation message, and I don&#039;t know if that confirmation message, if ever received, will include my original message, so I must try to remember it on my own. It&#039;s a good practice, but it doesn&#039;t help me at the crucial moment. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, your suggestion is good, but you are kind of thinking backwards: at the moment I stand in front of a contact form, I don&#8217;t know if I will receive a confirmation message, and I don&#8217;t know if that confirmation message, if ever received, will include my original message, so I must try to remember it on my own. It&#8217;s a good practice, but it doesn&#8217;t help me at the crucial moment. :)</p>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>6, 7  and 9 are possibly valid reasons to use a contact form.  The others are signs that you are using the wrong software, or using the right software badly.  Plain email addresses should be available as a last resort at least - javascript, eyetests, hearing tests and other common contact form obstructions can all lock real people out (while letting some spammers through).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6, 7  and 9 are possibly valid reasons to use a contact form.  The others are signs that you are using the wrong software, or using the right software badly.  Plain email addresses should be available as a last resort at least &#8211; javascript, eyetests, hearing tests and other common contact form obstructions can all lock real people out (while letting some spammers through).</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Barden - Blog Tips</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/12/06/10-reasons-to-avoid-mailto-links/comment-page-1/#comment-4396272</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Barden - Blog Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 07:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian, if a contact form sends you a confirmation message so you get a copy of what you sent, would that suffice? That&#039;s what I&#039;ve done with the contact form I use, but it&#039;s not WordPress, it&#039;s Injader (an open-source CMS that I created).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastian, if a contact form sends you a confirmation message so you get a copy of what you sent, would that suffice? That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve done with the contact form I use, but it&#8217;s not WordPress, it&#8217;s Injader (an open-source CMS that I created).</p>
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