My suggestions are offered as humbly as possible. It looks like you’ve got a great product based on the reviews, and that’s what really takes the cake.

However, based on testing, this group is small and made up of people who wouldn’t join regardless of how the program is sold. That’s not completely conclusive and I’m sure I lose a few potential customers because of the page, but I’m pretty confident I gain more than I would lose by not using it.

The page works well for the greater majority of people who are really interested.

Thankfully as well, for many people like I’m sure is the case with Darren’s readers – they just skip the page altogether, hit the order button and join based on the recommendation from someone they trust.

I believe the majority of my current members came through that way, but there will be many new people who come along after and join thanks to finding whatever point they needed to hear on the long page. If that point wasn’t there, they wouldn’t join.

The only downside with this as a marketer every time you release a product you have to expect a small vocal minority will tell you your page sucks and it is spammy.

They of course have good justification for doing this – there are lots of spammy long sales pages that they have probably seen, which has tainted their opinion of all such pages.

It’s an unfortunate circumstance, but that’s the nature of marketing. Once a small group start to abuse a technique, everyone suffers who continues to use that technique even if they are no abusing it.

As marketer, you have to look at the numbers if you want your business to survive and sometimes that means copping some flack. It’s the same with blogging – sometimes you cop flack from your readers in comments who don’t agree with something you wrote. That’s not going to stop you from blogging though.

Yaro

@Yaro: I think it explains everything quite well, but in that format and style, makes me question WHO exactly you are targeting. The text tells me it’s communicating with one audience, while the style tells me another. That’s just my take though.

We’ve known eachother for a while.

If you honestly think that it would be worth for someone like me who has been blogging for a bit, I will do it…

As usual, thx for all the helpful advice. I do have to agree that Yaro’s download page does lean towards the ‘get rich quick schemes’ throughout the blogosphere. I am not sure I would go further on that page if Darren hadn’t recommended it. Having said that, my introduction to blogging was on a similar page so all is well that ends well. Maybe we shouldn’t be so skeptical about everything! Lastly, with Yaro’s success, who am I to judge!

Pays made a point about the “spammy” quality of the Blog Mastermind site. That was my same impression. However, Yaro truly offers solid content in his coaching program and really “walks the walk” in regard to offering great advice and training.

Regarding Jeff Rosenberg’s question about whether this coaching would help a political blogger, it’s my sense that it would help. My blog, Global Investment Watch, is focused on business and human rights. So far, I’ve found snippets of useful information from the training and plan to continue with the coaching.

http://syokbeb.com

All my websites are custom made, so I’m not sure what you are referring too.

If you mean that I’m using a “sales page” to promote course and that is what you consider a “template” then yes, guilty as charged.

I like my sales page, it provides all the information and if you don’t want to read it, watch the video instead, or just scan the bits you want.

It has performed really well too, I’ve even had comments that people like that my page doesn’t seem as “hypey” as the usual sales pages they see, which is something I was striving for.

Yaro might be a great guy teaching some valuable lessons to people who needs it. But, by using such a generic template; which is very common is blogosphere; only cheapens his “coaching program.”

Seriously yaro, if you are so successful and making so much money; atleast pay someone to make a decent non-spammy looking website.

While I have a lot of respect for darren, and it is totally reasonable for him to use affiliated links to blogmastermind coaching program; but seriously people still buys into the whole, “good reviews by cherry-picked customers” and than using it as a reason to join the program with an affiliated links?

I hope this comment doesn’t get deleted… :)

He’s that guy with that Australian auto blog. Can’t remember his name now.