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	<title>Comments on: Has Blogging Lost Its Relational Focus?</title>
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		<title>By: Joshua Chen</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/07/21/has-blogging-lost-its-relational-focus/comment-page-2/#comment-4641565</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really see it almost impossible to get a successful blog going with out developing some blog relationships. If you are unwilling to build relationships with the blog, how can you expect readers to want to build a relationship with you?

I think it may have a lot to do with the amount of blogs out there, and it might be that the mass amounts of blogs are mildly successful and they can get to that point with out relationships. 

The blogs that are really making progress and gains are the ones who have found out that relationships are the way to get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really see it almost impossible to get a successful blog going with out developing some blog relationships. If you are unwilling to build relationships with the blog, how can you expect readers to want to build a relationship with you?</p>
<p>I think it may have a lot to do with the amount of blogs out there, and it might be that the mass amounts of blogs are mildly successful and they can get to that point with out relationships. </p>
<p>The blogs that are really making progress and gains are the ones who have found out that relationships are the way to get there.</p>
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		<title>By: swar</title>
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		<dc:creator>swar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the comments are very interesting to read about than this post !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the comments are very interesting to read about than this post !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dejon H.</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/07/21/has-blogging-lost-its-relational-focus/comment-page-2/#comment-4124450</link>
		<dc:creator>Dejon H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great subject!  I run a blog based around the philosophy of &quot;Relational Systems.&quot;  A philosophy that pays mind to relationships between objects and relationships between relationships... something lost in the Aristotelian&#039; way of looking at the world.  All though it can be subverted, blogging is such a natural extension of this way of thinking - fostering a free exchange of ideas and building strength from looking at patterns.  Thank you for the dialogue,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great subject!  I run a blog based around the philosophy of &#8220;Relational Systems.&#8221;  A philosophy that pays mind to relationships between objects and relationships between relationships&#8230; something lost in the Aristotelian&#8217; way of looking at the world.  All though it can be subverted, blogging is such a natural extension of this way of thinking &#8211; fostering a free exchange of ideas and building strength from looking at patterns.  Thank you for the dialogue,</p>
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		<title>By: rjleaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjleaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reginald, in your previous comment, you posed a tough question:

&quot;Broken down in the simplest of terms, what are the direct benefits of linking to a competitor?&quot;

 Most of the previous commenters, taken together, make a strong argument for a bit of &quot;self-serving altruism&quot; in blogging... but to break it down to the &quot;simplest of terms&quot; - and especially if those simple terms include the acronym ROI - well, that&#039;s a challenge to articulate!  

Let&#039;s hope some other bloggers are brave enough to wade in here and give the 1-sentence &quot;elevator pitch&quot; for out-linking with a free hand. I&#039;m still thinking about it... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reginald, in your previous comment, you posed a tough question:</p>
<p>&#8220;Broken down in the simplest of terms, what are the direct benefits of linking to a competitor?&#8221;</p>
<p> Most of the previous commenters, taken together, make a strong argument for a bit of &#8220;self-serving altruism&#8221; in blogging&#8230; but to break it down to the &#8220;simplest of terms&#8221; &#8211; and especially if those simple terms include the acronym ROI &#8211; well, that&#8217;s a challenge to articulate!  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope some other bloggers are brave enough to wade in here and give the 1-sentence &#8220;elevator pitch&#8221; for out-linking with a free hand. I&#8217;m still thinking about it&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Reginald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reginald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ari Herzog,

Ironically, this post almost started with the word &#039;I&#039;.  However, I caught myself in time. 

I enjoyed the unique angle of your post.

I consider your sentiment sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ari Herzog,</p>
<p>Ironically, this post almost started with the word &#8216;I&#8217;.  However, I caught myself in time. </p>
<p>I enjoyed the unique angle of your post.</p>
<p>I consider your sentiment sound.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Chaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons I became entranced by this medium five years ago was the relationships it helped to foster, relationships that I maintain to this day. 

While blogging has become good for a lot of things so far as marketing is concerned - SEO for example - it&#039;s my hope relationships remain at the core. 

That&#039;s one reason I accepted the offer to become president of the International Blogging and New Media Association (IBNMA). Relationships matter. They always have and I hope they always will!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons I became entranced by this medium five years ago was the relationships it helped to foster, relationships that I maintain to this day. </p>
<p>While blogging has become good for a lot of things so far as marketing is concerned &#8211; SEO for example &#8211; it&#8217;s my hope relationships remain at the core. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s one reason I accepted the offer to become president of the International Blogging and New Media Association (IBNMA). Relationships matter. They always have and I hope they always will!</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Herzog</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/07/21/has-blogging-lost-its-relational-focus/comment-page-2/#comment-3903624</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are approximately 60 comments above mine and nearly all of them begin with the pronoun, &quot;I.&quot;

Moreover, nearly every comment is in direct response to Darren because he asked everyone a question. But Rebecca Leaman went a step farther by not just posing a question but responding to others who responded to her. THAT is the essence of relations and THAT is what commenting on blogs should be about.

If people can pose questions back and forth, even without using a question mark, and other people can be engaged by a comment regardless of everything else on the page, then, no, Darren and everyone else, blogging has not lost its relational focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are approximately 60 comments above mine and nearly all of them begin with the pronoun, &#8220;I.&#8221;</p>
<p>Moreover, nearly every comment is in direct response to Darren because he asked everyone a question. But Rebecca Leaman went a step farther by not just posing a question but responding to others who responded to her. THAT is the essence of relations and THAT is what commenting on blogs should be about.</p>
<p>If people can pose questions back and forth, even without using a question mark, and other people can be engaged by a comment regardless of everything else on the page, then, no, Darren and everyone else, blogging has not lost its relational focus.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig McClure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find myself in that netherworld Yin and Yang of blogging to say something versus blogging to promote myself. My old world marketing self wants to be heard for the sake of his ego. My blogging-conscious self wants to be part of the global conversation. How do we speak in this realm and satisfy both? How do we stay real without running our own PR campaign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find myself in that netherworld Yin and Yang of blogging to say something versus blogging to promote myself. My old world marketing self wants to be heard for the sake of his ego. My blogging-conscious self wants to be part of the global conversation. How do we speak in this realm and satisfy both? How do we stay real without running our own PR campaign?</p>
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		<title>By: stone fireplace mantel</title>
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		<dc:creator>stone fireplace mantel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments all - thank so much for the rich conversation.

our site :http://www.allystone.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments all &#8211; thank so much for the rich conversation.</p>
<p>our site :http://www.allystone.net</p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you mind if I ask what was your previous offline business? Just out of curiosity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mind if I ask what was your previous offline business? Just out of curiosity.</p>
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		<title>By: Reginald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reginald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Broken down in the simplest of terms, what are the direct benefits of linking to a competitor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broken down in the simplest of terms, what are the direct benefits of linking to a competitor?</p>
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		<title>By: rjleaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjleaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ juliemarg, that&#039;s so kind of you to say - clearly, you&#039;re one of the &quot;There you are!&quot; kind of bloggers. :) No way it can ever be other than positive, when we acknowledge an unknown fellow blogger who somehow strikes a chord with us, yes?

@ Wayne Tully, when you say that  &quot;everyone has their own unique insight that really adds something to other bloggers&quot; - I think you&#039;ve put your finger on one of the things that keeps a lot of bloggers going when those inevitable &#039;down times&#039; come around, and that&#039;s the sense of community spirit that Darren alludes to in this post. 

Sure, the blogosphere is a bigger place now, and perceived competition (and information overload?) can cut back on the &#039;connecting&#039; that used to take place when there were fewer blogs and we were all just hanging out there on the fringes of &#039;citizen journalism&#039;, making it up as we went along. Pioneers of the wild west... But there&#039;s still lots of evidence, even in the fast-paced Big City Blogosphere, don&#039;t you think, of neighbourhoods and allegiances of common interest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ juliemarg, that&#8217;s so kind of you to say &#8211; clearly, you&#8217;re one of the &#8220;There you are!&#8221; kind of bloggers. :) No way it can ever be other than positive, when we acknowledge an unknown fellow blogger who somehow strikes a chord with us, yes?</p>
<p>@ Wayne Tully, when you say that  &#8220;everyone has their own unique insight that really adds something to other bloggers&#8221; &#8211; I think you&#8217;ve put your finger on one of the things that keeps a lot of bloggers going when those inevitable &#8216;down times&#8217; come around, and that&#8217;s the sense of community spirit that Darren alludes to in this post. </p>
<p>Sure, the blogosphere is a bigger place now, and perceived competition (and information overload?) can cut back on the &#8216;connecting&#8217; that used to take place when there were fewer blogs and we were all just hanging out there on the fringes of &#8216;citizen journalism&#8217;, making it up as we went along. Pioneers of the wild west&#8230; But there&#8217;s still lots of evidence, even in the fast-paced Big City Blogosphere, don&#8217;t you think, of neighbourhoods and allegiances of common interest?</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Tully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that connecting with other bloggers is really important, because they will know that the information that they are providing is going to influence their lives and blogging and there is lots to learn from many different people of all backgrounds, everyone has their own unique insight that really adds something to other bloggers.

I think that relational blogging is split between those that want to build networks with other bloggers and those who are selfishly opposed to it, the ideas behind blogging for profit get in the way most times and finding the need to stand out and dominate becomes the obsessive for most.

I tend to look for small and big players that will compliment my blog and their blogs, it all comes down to a lot of reading and deciding and commenting to find them, but they are there....somewhere!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that connecting with other bloggers is really important, because they will know that the information that they are providing is going to influence their lives and blogging and there is lots to learn from many different people of all backgrounds, everyone has their own unique insight that really adds something to other bloggers.</p>
<p>I think that relational blogging is split between those that want to build networks with other bloggers and those who are selfishly opposed to it, the ideas behind blogging for profit get in the way most times and finding the need to stand out and dominate becomes the obsessive for most.</p>
<p>I tend to look for small and big players that will compliment my blog and their blogs, it all comes down to a lot of reading and deciding and commenting to find them, but they are there&#8230;.somewhere!!</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that relating to other blogs gives me the chance to expand a topic; explore a slightly different path and opens up the conversation. Someone&#039;s post may make me think of something related, which can spark comments and other links that enlarge the information we can take in and build on it exponentially. I don&#039;t think you can run out of different ways to either take in or look at an idea, so why not share? Maybe the difference with some blogs is that they are, as Edward Lomax said, more of a sermon than a conversation.

BTW - I just came back from BlogHer 08 in SF: I doubt you could find 1,000 more relational bloggers in one place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that relating to other blogs gives me the chance to expand a topic; explore a slightly different path and opens up the conversation. Someone&#8217;s post may make me think of something related, which can spark comments and other links that enlarge the information we can take in and build on it exponentially. I don&#8217;t think you can run out of different ways to either take in or look at an idea, so why not share? Maybe the difference with some blogs is that they are, as Edward Lomax said, more of a sermon than a conversation.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; I just came back from BlogHer 08 in SF: I doubt you could find 1,000 more relational bloggers in one place.</p>
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		<title>By: juliemarg</title>
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		<dc:creator>juliemarg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and I should know better... don&#039;t click before you correct your spelling and grammar errors.  I wanted my comment to follow so that it made sense, instead I diluted my good intent with carelessness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and I should know better&#8230; don&#8217;t click before you correct your spelling and grammar errors.  I wanted my comment to follow so that it made sense, instead I diluted my good intent with carelessness.</p>
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		<title>By: juliemarg</title>
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		<dc:creator>juliemarg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca - what I nice comment.  I just stumbled your non-profit site since it seems more people should get to know yhou.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca &#8211; what I nice comment.  I just stumbled your non-profit site since it seems more people should get to know yhou.</p>
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		<title>By: rjleaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjleaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since blogging is about human relationships, it seems to me that success in blogging is analogous to what makes us &quot;successful&quot; socially, offline, too... 

It is simple.
There are 2 kinds of people: those who come into a room saying, &quot;Here I am&quot; - and those who come in saying, &quot;There you are!&quot;  -  
Which would you like to spend time with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since blogging is about human relationships, it seems to me that success in blogging is analogous to what makes us &#8220;successful&#8221; socially, offline, too&#8230; </p>
<p>It is simple.<br />
There are 2 kinds of people: those who come into a room saying, &#8220;Here I am&#8221; &#8211; and those who come in saying, &#8220;There you are!&#8221;  &#8211;<br />
Which would you like to spend time with?</p>
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		<title>By: Moise levi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moise levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS ; thanks to this post, I was able to find great blogs to add on my blogroll 

Thanks to the comments :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS ; thanks to this post, I was able to find great blogs to add on my blogroll </p>
<p>Thanks to the comments :)</p>
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		<title>By: Moise levi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moise levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually like to link to new blogs.
Established ones do not even answer you .....
New bloggers tend to be hungry for success ........
They motivate me, I motivate them .......
They bring me infos and tips of various subjects (and in many languages)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like to link to new blogs.<br />
Established ones do not even answer you &#8230;..<br />
New bloggers tend to be hungry for success &#8230;&#8230;..<br />
They motivate me, I motivate them &#8230;&#8230;.<br />
They bring me infos and tips of various subjects (and in many languages)</p>
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		<title>By: Syn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am new to blogging for the most part so I can&#039;t tell you whether it is more or less relational.  I can tell you that I do have a regular group of bloggers I talk to on a daily basis thru an online forum.  We offer advice and ask for advice when we need to and it&#039;s freely given.

I have a couple of bloggers that I am becoming friendly with that I met through blogging but it&#039;s to visit their blog and commiserate on what we have in common (kids and husbands usually).

There are a few bloggers that I don&#039;t have a relationship with that I subscribe to (like you, lol) because I find it very informative.  

I think the nature of some bloggers (introverted) crosses over into their blogging.  With others, they find blogging freeing and their normally introverted nature in real life doesn&#039;t play a part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am new to blogging for the most part so I can&#8217;t tell you whether it is more or less relational.  I can tell you that I do have a regular group of bloggers I talk to on a daily basis thru an online forum.  We offer advice and ask for advice when we need to and it&#8217;s freely given.</p>
<p>I have a couple of bloggers that I am becoming friendly with that I met through blogging but it&#8217;s to visit their blog and commiserate on what we have in common (kids and husbands usually).</p>
<p>There are a few bloggers that I don&#8217;t have a relationship with that I subscribe to (like you, lol) because I find it very informative.  </p>
<p>I think the nature of some bloggers (introverted) crosses over into their blogging.  With others, they find blogging freeing and their normally introverted nature in real life doesn&#8217;t play a part.</p>
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