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	<title>Comments on: Australians Getting Raw Deal iPhone 3G Plans</title>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be great to see a phone co-op up and running in Australia. However, I&#039;m not sure that it can make much difference to the mobile phone markets now.

Telephones are a licensed market in most places and those licenses often sell for silly numbers - telephone numbers, even.  They&#039;re difficult for most new cooperatives to afford today, what with co-operative finance usually being a bit more limited than what public companies can get by betting their company and its pension fund.

So, my phone co-op (thephone.coop) buys UK mobile phone services from one of the five UK mobile licensees.  It&#039;s only relatively recently been able to shop around for fixed phone service supply, instead of having to buy from the British Telecom privatised monopoly.  It doesn&#039;t give any revolutionary deals, but I think it has been useful in pressuring the regulators and politicians to open up services to competition.

Still, it gives better service than I&#039;ve had from any other phone company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be great to see a phone co-op up and running in Australia. However, I&#8217;m not sure that it can make much difference to the mobile phone markets now.</p>
<p>Telephones are a licensed market in most places and those licenses often sell for silly numbers &#8211; telephone numbers, even.  They&#8217;re difficult for most new cooperatives to afford today, what with co-operative finance usually being a bit more limited than what public companies can get by betting their company and its pension fund.</p>
<p>So, my phone co-op (thephone.coop) buys UK mobile phone services from one of the five UK mobile licensees.  It&#8217;s only relatively recently been able to shop around for fixed phone service supply, instead of having to buy from the British Telecom privatised monopoly.  It doesn&#8217;t give any revolutionary deals, but I think it has been useful in pressuring the regulators and politicians to open up services to competition.</p>
<p>Still, it gives better service than I&#8217;ve had from any other phone company.</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vadim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will get a co-op alternative to the Australian telephone companies up and running if 10,000 people join: https://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/fauc

Please let everyone know! Hopefully an alternative will be more receptive to new technology and won’t charge as much as it does for the iPhone’s basic functions.

At the very least, it’ll send pressure to Telstra, Vodafone, etc. to lower their prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will get a co-op alternative to the Australian telephone companies up and running if 10,000 people join: <a href="https://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/fauc" rel="nofollow">https://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/fauc</a></p>
<p>Please let everyone know! Hopefully an alternative will be more receptive to new technology and won’t charge as much as it does for the iPhone’s basic functions.</p>
<p>At the very least, it’ll send pressure to Telstra, Vodafone, etc. to lower their prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Moss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be completely honest, it is about time Australia had a rubbish deal for something.

I mean come on, look at your weather compared to the UK! ;-)

Free iPhone for me on an upgrade and only £45 per month for UNLIMITED data! Woot!

On a serious note, there seems to be some HUGE discrepancy between all the countries in regards to plans, but not surprising. For once, the UK is pretty good value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be completely honest, it is about time Australia had a rubbish deal for something.</p>
<p>I mean come on, look at your weather compared to the UK! ;-)</p>
<p>Free iPhone for me on an upgrade and only £45 per month for UNLIMITED data! Woot!</p>
<p>On a serious note, there seems to be some HUGE discrepancy between all the countries in regards to plans, but not surprising. For once, the UK is pretty good value.</p>
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		<title>By: theaffiliatesecret.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>theaffiliatesecret.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 02:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you think thats bad, us kiwis have to pay $250 a month (24 months) and $200 for the phone.. or $1000+ for a iphone (no plan)..

rippoff springs to mind ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you think thats bad, us kiwis have to pay $250 a month (24 months) and $200 for the phone.. or $1000+ for a iphone (no plan)..</p>
<p>rippoff springs to mind ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I currently have no desire to buy one of these and it’s not just about saving the purchase price.

I have an 80 GB video iPod that is full of music, videos, and audio books for the bus commute to and from work.

My video iPod also doubles as a backup hard drive when I need to transfer larges file between home and work.

Read my 6 reasons for NOT buying one:
http://www.nickstraffictricks.com/6-reasons-i-am-not-buying-the-new-iphone-3g/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently have no desire to buy one of these and it’s not just about saving the purchase price.</p>
<p>I have an 80 GB video iPod that is full of music, videos, and audio books for the bus commute to and from work.</p>
<p>My video iPod also doubles as a backup hard drive when I need to transfer larges file between home and work.</p>
<p>Read my 6 reasons for NOT buying one:<br />
<a href="http://www.nickstraffictricks.com/6-reasons-i-am-not-buying-the-new-iphone-3g/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nickstraffictricks.com/6-reasons-i-am-not-buying-the-new-iphone-3g/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to ruin a good product:

1) Make a good product
2) Let a telco set the pricing

Telstra, as with their NextG launch, have decided to price the iPhone into obscurity.  I don&#039;t know who makes these decisions over at Telstra HQ, but they are either very stupid or very very stupid.  People would snap up the iPhone if it was more like $80/mth for &quot;practically all you can eat calls&quot; and 1Gb of data.

Its a shame the other two can&#039;t match the 3G coverage because their pricing is a bit more reasonable (in fact Optus seems pretty good to me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to ruin a good product:</p>
<p>1) Make a good product<br />
2) Let a telco set the pricing</p>
<p>Telstra, as with their NextG launch, have decided to price the iPhone into obscurity.  I don&#8217;t know who makes these decisions over at Telstra HQ, but they are either very stupid or very very stupid.  People would snap up the iPhone if it was more like $80/mth for &#8220;practically all you can eat calls&#8221; and 1Gb of data.</p>
<p>Its a shame the other two can&#8217;t match the 3G coverage because their pricing is a bit more reasonable (in fact Optus seems pretty good to me).</p>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/07/10/australians-getting-raw-deal-iphone-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-3778775</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently had a bad experience in the UK with downloading media files and a per-byte data plan. When you&#039;re using data, you need a reasonable unmetered quota.

The other thing is that no matter how great the iPhone is, it&#039;s not worth a bad plan *or* bad customer service.  So show them.  Don&#039;t buy the iPhone. Let the lemmings discover what you already know: the plan is bad and the service is bad.

Open platform phones (Java and Maemo) seem to have better blog clients anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently had a bad experience in the UK with downloading media files and a per-byte data plan. When you&#8217;re using data, you need a reasonable unmetered quota.</p>
<p>The other thing is that no matter how great the iPhone is, it&#8217;s not worth a bad plan *or* bad customer service.  So show them.  Don&#8217;t buy the iPhone. Let the lemmings discover what you already know: the plan is bad and the service is bad.</p>
<p>Open platform phones (Java and Maemo) seem to have better blog clients anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: redwall_hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>redwall_hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ProBlogger homepage weighs in at around 610KB. There are 1000KB in a megabyte if I&#039;m not mistaken. So that means you should be able to load your index about... 327 times? (I&#039;m not great at math, but it sounds about right). 610KB seems like a fairly average size for a webpage, so you should be able to load 327 pages in a month (and then you have all your push data, emails, tweets, etc). If you load any media files, such as podcasts, you&#039;ll really eat through your 200MB of data. Really, I think it&#039;s tiny. 200 &lt;b&gt;giga&lt;/b&gt;bytes would be more fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ProBlogger homepage weighs in at around 610KB. There are 1000KB in a megabyte if I&#8217;m not mistaken. So that means you should be able to load your index about&#8230; 327 times? (I&#8217;m not great at math, but it sounds about right). 610KB seems like a fairly average size for a webpage, so you should be able to load 327 pages in a month (and then you have all your push data, emails, tweets, etc). If you load any media files, such as podcasts, you&#8217;ll really eat through your 200MB of data. Really, I think it&#8217;s tiny. 200 <b>giga</b>bytes would be more fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Sangesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sangesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh... I just don&#039;t know when plans like this will be there in our country. I&#039;d love to get my hands on one of these beautiful sets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh&#8230; I just don&#8217;t know when plans like this will be there in our country. I&#8217;d love to get my hands on one of these beautiful sets.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Potts Weinstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Potts Weinstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the thing ... this is what happens when Apple lets go of the iPhone.  Apple &amp; it&#039;s Apple stores has made an art of the &quot;experience&quot; aka Starbucks experience ... with a unique kind of customer service.  

But now that they have let go of the iPhone and let the carriers handle it (who SUCK at customer service), the iPhone becomes just another fancy phone.  Especially outside the U.S., it looks like.  Big issue, since there are other phone manu&#039;s who make iPhone-similar phones now.

Let&#039;s see what this means for Apple &amp; the iPhone.

~ Elizabeth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing &#8230; this is what happens when Apple lets go of the iPhone.  Apple &amp; it&#8217;s Apple stores has made an art of the &#8220;experience&#8221; aka Starbucks experience &#8230; with a unique kind of customer service.  </p>
<p>But now that they have let go of the iPhone and let the carriers handle it (who SUCK at customer service), the iPhone becomes just another fancy phone.  Especially outside the U.S., it looks like.  Big issue, since there are other phone manu&#8217;s who make iPhone-similar phones now.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what this means for Apple &amp; the iPhone.</p>
<p>~ Elizabeth</p>
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		<title>By: James Kolacz</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Kolacz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t they have an unlimited plan for data? At&amp;t does here int he states. Drop 20 bucks a month and u can surf your brains out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t they have an unlimited plan for data? At&amp;t does here int he states. Drop 20 bucks a month and u can surf your brains out.</p>
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		<title>By: www.StocksHaven.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.StocksHaven.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meant to write *Darren*... its early morning :D forgive me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant to write *Darren*&#8230; its early morning :D forgive me.</p>
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		<title>By: www.StocksHaven.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.StocksHaven.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dareen, I feel the same way up here in Canada. Rogers has got to be one of the biggest telecom thieves to ever grace this earth. I am disgusted at the way they price their plans. I hope BELL takes over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dareen, I feel the same way up here in Canada. Rogers has got to be one of the biggest telecom thieves to ever grace this earth. I am disgusted at the way they price their plans. I hope BELL takes over.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Merrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Merrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems the UK has one of the best deals going, even compared to the US now. I suppose it comes from being in such a mobile-saturated market. I know people here moan about O2, and we don&#039;t get an official choice as they&#039;re still exclusive, but for £35pm (AU$72) you get 600 minutes of talk, 500 texts, unlimited 3G Internet, unlimited Wi-Fi at around 9,000 hotspots, free Visual Voicemail.

I do feel for those particularly in Canada and Australia that are getting raw data deals. I don&#039;t think the telcos get it. Unlimited data (with fair use, of course) is fairly common in the UK now.

Time will tell whether O2 start capping heavy online users, and by how much, but effectively a few GB per month should be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems the UK has one of the best deals going, even compared to the US now. I suppose it comes from being in such a mobile-saturated market. I know people here moan about O2, and we don&#8217;t get an official choice as they&#8217;re still exclusive, but for £35pm (AU$72) you get 600 minutes of talk, 500 texts, unlimited 3G Internet, unlimited Wi-Fi at around 9,000 hotspots, free Visual Voicemail.</p>
<p>I do feel for those particularly in Canada and Australia that are getting raw data deals. I don&#8217;t think the telcos get it. Unlimited data (with fair use, of course) is fairly common in the UK now.</p>
<p>Time will tell whether O2 start capping heavy online users, and by how much, but effectively a few GB per month should be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Make Money Talks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make Money Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These plans are very expensive, but Apple is not crazy, they just want our money...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These plans are very expensive, but Apple is not crazy, they just want our money&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ David Pascoe - I read an article somewhere on the net this morning that stated that the iPhone handsets were being subsidized to the tune of US$300 by the carriers.

We sit in South Africa with only one service provider (Vodacom) for the iPhone at this stage. They also haven&#039;t given any indication of the costs yet (the phone is apparently going to be available around the end of this month) but going by past experience, only the top end of the market will be able to afford one. Data is hellish expensive across all networks here and network coverage is pretty pathetic compared to your &quot;first world&quot; countries.

And, apart from the fact that we don&#039;t have access to the iTunes store here in SA, the GPS navigation capabilities of the phone are looking even less desirable (&lt;a href=&quot;http://thegpstimes.com/2008/07/10/3g-iphone-gps-navigation-in-south-africa-gimmick-or-godsen/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;3G iPhone GPS Navigation in South Africa - Gimmick or Godsend?&lt;/a&gt;).

So, what exactly would we be buying this phone for again? Ah yes, for making calls... But aren&#039;t there other phones available that can do this too? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ David Pascoe &#8211; I read an article somewhere on the net this morning that stated that the iPhone handsets were being subsidized to the tune of US$300 by the carriers.</p>
<p>We sit in South Africa with only one service provider (Vodacom) for the iPhone at this stage. They also haven&#8217;t given any indication of the costs yet (the phone is apparently going to be available around the end of this month) but going by past experience, only the top end of the market will be able to afford one. Data is hellish expensive across all networks here and network coverage is pretty pathetic compared to your &#8220;first world&#8221; countries.</p>
<p>And, apart from the fact that we don&#8217;t have access to the iTunes store here in SA, the GPS navigation capabilities of the phone are looking even less desirable (<a href="http://thegpstimes.com/2008/07/10/3g-iphone-gps-navigation-in-south-africa-gimmick-or-godsen/" rel="nofollow">3G iPhone GPS Navigation in South Africa &#8211; Gimmick or Godsend?</a>).</p>
<p>So, what exactly would we be buying this phone for again? Ah yes, for making calls&#8230; But aren&#8217;t there other phones available that can do this too? ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mark Jaquith

Yes, it&#039;s called economies of scale and a market that can support it. It&#039;s also called good customer service. Something which many countries lack, including Australia&#039;s &quot;fit in and shut up or piss off&quot; customer service policies.  For all it&#039;s failings, the US has great customer service, always going the extra mile because they understand the value of a long term customer. Hence, all you can eat, hence, unlimited minutes, hence, free refills. 

God bless the USA! =)

BTW, what mobile broadband are you using to get unlimited data? All of seen is Verizon, AT&amp;T, Sprint and they only go up to 2Gig... Maybe it&#039;s not the service you&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mark Jaquith</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s called economies of scale and a market that can support it. It&#8217;s also called good customer service. Something which many countries lack, including Australia&#8217;s &#8220;fit in and shut up or piss off&#8221; customer service policies.  For all it&#8217;s failings, the US has great customer service, always going the extra mile because they understand the value of a long term customer. Hence, all you can eat, hence, unlimited minutes, hence, free refills. </p>
<p>God bless the USA! =)</p>
<p>BTW, what mobile broadband are you using to get unlimited data? All of seen is Verizon, AT&amp;T, Sprint and they only go up to 2Gig&#8230; Maybe it&#8217;s not the service you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The telco&#039;s are all getting kicked.. which is pretty justified for Vodafone and Telstra who are keeping their terms quiet until the last minute..that&#039;s b.s... but let&#039;s not forget that Apple is pulling all the strings here. Every telco is under non-disclosure obligations to maintain the &quot;buzz&quot; for a global launch date.  The stores don&#039;t even know how many units they&#039;re getting - which are due to arrive overnight or first thing tomorrow.  It&#039;s what we love and hate about Apple - their monopoly power.. I&#039;d like to say stuff it and walk away but it&#039;s they&#039;re using their power to design pretty toys.. which I think will be really useful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The telco&#8217;s are all getting kicked.. which is pretty justified for Vodafone and Telstra who are keeping their terms quiet until the last minute..that&#8217;s b.s&#8230; but let&#8217;s not forget that Apple is pulling all the strings here. Every telco is under non-disclosure obligations to maintain the &#8220;buzz&#8221; for a global launch date.  The stores don&#8217;t even know how many units they&#8217;re getting &#8211; which are due to arrive overnight or first thing tomorrow.  It&#8217;s what we love and hate about Apple &#8211; their monopoly power.. I&#8217;d like to say stuff it and walk away but it&#8217;s they&#8217;re using their power to design pretty toys.. which I think will be really useful!</p>
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		<title>By: David Pascoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Pascoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon guys don&#039;t you realise that Telstra, Optus and Vodaphone have 2 big things driving them - that both work against offering cheap plans. They have expensive networks that their shareholders expect a good return on and 2) we know that Apple was getting a nice little back hander every month from AT&amp;T for the v1 phone, so surely it is easy to imagine that the carriers are now subsidising the handsets in a big way. That is, we don&#039;t know the real cost that they are paying apple per unit, one can guess it amounts to as much as $30 a month for 24 months - say a $700 subsidy to the up front payment.

The carriers have apple exactly where they like to have all smart phone providers. Expensive handsets subsidised up front and locked in for long contracts. The real money they will make is during the contract when you go over the bandwidth and minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon guys don&#8217;t you realise that Telstra, Optus and Vodaphone have 2 big things driving them &#8211; that both work against offering cheap plans. They have expensive networks that their shareholders expect a good return on and 2) we know that Apple was getting a nice little back hander every month from AT&amp;T for the v1 phone, so surely it is easy to imagine that the carriers are now subsidising the handsets in a big way. That is, we don&#8217;t know the real cost that they are paying apple per unit, one can guess it amounts to as much as $30 a month for 24 months &#8211; say a $700 subsidy to the up front payment.</p>
<p>The carriers have apple exactly where they like to have all smart phone providers. Expensive handsets subsidised up front and locked in for long contracts. The real money they will make is during the contract when you go over the bandwidth and minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: SimonGoudie</title>
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		<dc:creator>SimonGoudie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree, the plans are ridiculous. I think the Australian carriers somehow missed the boat completely as to what constitutes a decent data plan. 5mb a month is basically useless these days.

I&#039;m locked into another contract for a while anyway, but I hope the plans change substantially between now and when I can pickup an iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree, the plans are ridiculous. I think the Australian carriers somehow missed the boat completely as to what constitutes a decent data plan. 5mb a month is basically useless these days.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m locked into another contract for a while anyway, but I hope the plans change substantially between now and when I can pickup an iPhone.</p>
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