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		<title>By: asithi</title>
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		<dc:creator>asithi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the email does not even name my website or me, it automatically goes into the trash.  And I also click on the spam button.  

If the email mention anything about my site, instead of being address to a &quot;Mr/Mrs,&quot; then I usually would scan it quickly to see if it is something I would be interested in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the email does not even name my website or me, it automatically goes into the trash.  And I also click on the spam button.  </p>
<p>If the email mention anything about my site, instead of being address to a &#8220;Mr/Mrs,&#8221; then I usually would scan it quickly to see if it is something I would be interested in.</p>
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		<title>By: Entrepreneur interviews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entrepreneur interviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,

I think it actually depends on the blog and the subject. For example, on my blog Entrepreneur Interviews I&#039;m getting contacted mostly by PR companies. They contact me for interviews with the entrepreneurs they represent, so it&#039;s actually beneficial!
The only time I&#039;m getting frustrated is when they get in contact, I&#039;m preparing the interview, then they never reply my emails :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,</p>
<p>I think it actually depends on the blog and the subject. For example, on my blog Entrepreneur Interviews I&#8217;m getting contacted mostly by PR companies. They contact me for interviews with the entrepreneurs they represent, so it&#8217;s actually beneficial!<br />
The only time I&#8217;m getting frustrated is when they get in contact, I&#8217;m preparing the interview, then they never reply my emails :(</p>
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		<title>By: The Red Rocket</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Red Rocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a PR consultant and a blogger and can see both points of view. Apart from making the classic mistake of poor research and targeting, I think much of the problem is that PR people are generally treating bloggers like journalists. The problem is that the rules of engagement are different and PR&#039;s need to get to grip with the medium first, before spamming bloggers with press releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a PR consultant and a blogger and can see both points of view. Apart from making the classic mistake of poor research and targeting, I think much of the problem is that PR people are generally treating bloggers like journalists. The problem is that the rules of engagement are different and PR&#8217;s need to get to grip with the medium first, before spamming bloggers with press releases.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Iriarte</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/06/22/understanding-pr-people-for-fun-and-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-3657078</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Iriarte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your article!  I&#039;m a fairly new &quot;blogger&quot; but I&#039;m finding the industry surrounding it facinating.  I&#039;m really enjoying the sharing aspects of blogging and get a thrill out of checking my stats and reading comments!  I&#039;m not to the point as of yet where any PR people are approaching me and  I am curious now as to what amount of hits they look for?  Thank you again, I&#039;ll look forward to your future posts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your article!  I&#8217;m a fairly new &#8220;blogger&#8221; but I&#8217;m finding the industry surrounding it facinating.  I&#8217;m really enjoying the sharing aspects of blogging and get a thrill out of checking my stats and reading comments!  I&#8217;m not to the point as of yet where any PR people are approaching me and  I am curious now as to what amount of hits they look for?  Thank you again, I&#8217;ll look forward to your future posts!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an author, if the publicists at my publishing house were sending anonymous, mass-emails, I&#039;d be peeved. (To say the least.) Many of us are bombarded by emails, spam, etc..and unless the product or service pertains to me (which it does maybe 3% of the time), it leaves a bad impression of the item they&#039;re pushing and makes me think someone isn&#039;t interested in the item, or doing their job properly.

Like others have mentioned, when I do get a message addressed to me, about something that pertains to my site and topic, I read it and often respond. That has often resulted in my highlighting a product or book on my blog (or book), which in turn is good for sales and provides a service to my readers if I think the book is good. 

If you&#039;re going to do something, you should do it right if you want to get results. An excellent article about how to do that is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elise.com/web/a/the_dos_and_donts_of_marketing_to_bloggers.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Do&#039;s and Don&#039;ts of Marketing To Bloggers&lt;/a&gt; by Elise Bauer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an author, if the publicists at my publishing house were sending anonymous, mass-emails, I&#8217;d be peeved. (To say the least.) Many of us are bombarded by emails, spam, etc..and unless the product or service pertains to me (which it does maybe 3% of the time), it leaves a bad impression of the item they&#8217;re pushing and makes me think someone isn&#8217;t interested in the item, or doing their job properly.</p>
<p>Like others have mentioned, when I do get a message addressed to me, about something that pertains to my site and topic, I read it and often respond. That has often resulted in my highlighting a product or book on my blog (or book), which in turn is good for sales and provides a service to my readers if I think the book is good. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to do something, you should do it right if you want to get results. An excellent article about how to do that is <a href="http://www.elise.com/web/a/the_dos_and_donts_of_marketing_to_bloggers.php" rel="nofollow">Do&#8217;s and Don&#8217;ts of Marketing To Bloggers</a> by Elise Bauer.</p>
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		<title>By: Peer Lawther &#124; Rubbergenius</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/06/22/understanding-pr-people-for-fun-and-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-3654542</link>
		<dc:creator>Peer Lawther &#124; Rubbergenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;m in the corporate side of the fence it&#039;s good to see a concise article with an introduction set down that I can use to advise new PR professionals and bloggers alike (and the comments are good as well). Thanks Erik.

One question though; what about highlighting and implementing the social media release? Rather than a flat press release a social media release at least tries to &quot;empower&quot; (sorry for the buzzword) the blogger/writer, so there&#039;s more chance of a post or article. Obviously depends on the industry and the product, but I&#039;ve found they tend to work much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;m in the corporate side of the fence it&#8217;s good to see a concise article with an introduction set down that I can use to advise new PR professionals and bloggers alike (and the comments are good as well). Thanks Erik.</p>
<p>One question though; what about highlighting and implementing the social media release? Rather than a flat press release a social media release at least tries to &#8220;empower&#8221; (sorry for the buzzword) the blogger/writer, so there&#8217;s more chance of a post or article. Obviously depends on the industry and the product, but I&#8217;ve found they tend to work much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/06/22/understanding-pr-people-for-fun-and-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-3653714</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“When we write to you, take a moment to look beyond our email. Think about what are you writing about, or planning to write about, and ask yourself if a PR person can help you get more information. Another thing to consider is whether a fellow blogger could benefit from some information you just received. Forwarding it to them could earn you brownie points that would translate into traffic. Every message from us is an opportunity!”

Give me a f’ing break. How about you take some time and actually read my blog before pitching me? It is a two way street. PR people acting like half of the information they send out is worth writing about is laughable. Half of the pitches I get aren’t even remotely connected to what I write about on a daily basis. 

Also um, I should consider if this information is valuable to my friends so I can pass it along for you? Do you want me to write the press release for you while I am at it?&quot;
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I am soooo with you Kevin! WTF? Why should I take the moment when you have just shown that YOU didn&#039;t take the moment??
I&#039;ve been on both sides of the fence (not just writing onine) and have been for the past 8 years. I think most companies just realize they have to get into &quot;this blogging thing&quot; but have no idea how to do it and everyone comes off looking bad. It has to get better for both sides though as it can&#039;t get any worse!
Stacey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“When we write to you, take a moment to look beyond our email. Think about what are you writing about, or planning to write about, and ask yourself if a PR person can help you get more information. Another thing to consider is whether a fellow blogger could benefit from some information you just received. Forwarding it to them could earn you brownie points that would translate into traffic. Every message from us is an opportunity!”</p>
<p>Give me a f’ing break. How about you take some time and actually read my blog before pitching me? It is a two way street. PR people acting like half of the information they send out is worth writing about is laughable. Half of the pitches I get aren’t even remotely connected to what I write about on a daily basis. </p>
<p>Also um, I should consider if this information is valuable to my friends so I can pass it along for you? Do you want me to write the press release for you while I am at it?&#8221;<br />
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I am soooo with you Kevin! WTF? Why should I take the moment when you have just shown that YOU didn&#8217;t take the moment??<br />
I&#8217;ve been on both sides of the fence (not just writing onine) and have been for the past 8 years. I think most companies just realize they have to get into &#8220;this blogging thing&#8221; but have no idea how to do it and everyone comes off looking bad. It has to get better for both sides though as it can&#8217;t get any worse!<br />
Stacey</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but this is an inadequate attempt to rhetorize bad behavior.

Last week I linked to a source I was discussing in a post. The next morning in my Inbox is an email form a well-known name around the internet. The name, provided it is in fact the actual person, is not the problem. The problem is that subject line does not reference the post topic or why the person, to whom I did not link but rather one of their affiliate channels, is writing to me. The subject line was their own recent guest post title on a feed which I unsubscribed from months ago.

This is counter to permission marketing. If you are interested in my writing and my audience talk to me about me and/or us, don&#039;t talk to me about you until you have earned permission to do so. So don&#039;t swamp me with essentially spam and then tell me I&#039;m an ungrateful wretch. I&#039;m not the one behaving badly.

This is the difference between buckshot and birdshot. One is designed to bring down a trophy the other settles for winging anything in range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but this is an inadequate attempt to rhetorize bad behavior.</p>
<p>Last week I linked to a source I was discussing in a post. The next morning in my Inbox is an email form a well-known name around the internet. The name, provided it is in fact the actual person, is not the problem. The problem is that subject line does not reference the post topic or why the person, to whom I did not link but rather one of their affiliate channels, is writing to me. The subject line was their own recent guest post title on a feed which I unsubscribed from months ago.</p>
<p>This is counter to permission marketing. If you are interested in my writing and my audience talk to me about me and/or us, don&#8217;t talk to me about you until you have earned permission to do so. So don&#8217;t swamp me with essentially spam and then tell me I&#8217;m an ungrateful wretch. I&#8217;m not the one behaving badly.</p>
<p>This is the difference between buckshot and birdshot. One is designed to bring down a trophy the other settles for winging anything in range.</p>
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		<title>By: A Suresh Kumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Suresh Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, But i am getting lot of spam emails in my inbox. But its really very difficult to find which one is spam. Some email requesting me to enter my email address and other persional details inorder to receive more information.

So, usually i avoid emails from unknown persons.i just delete it ,i will never open it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, But i am getting lot of spam emails in my inbox. But its really very difficult to find which one is spam. Some email requesting me to enter my email address and other persional details inorder to receive more information.</p>
<p>So, usually i avoid emails from unknown persons.i just delete it ,i will never open it.</p>
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		<title>By: PR  Ny</title>
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		<dc:creator>PR  Ny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How has  the popularity of Web 2.0 and Social Bookmarking sites changed the PR industry over the past several years?


Compare the strategies from the last decade and before  to those used now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How has  the popularity of Web 2.0 and Social Bookmarking sites changed the PR industry over the past several years?</p>
<p>Compare the strategies from the last decade and before  to those used now.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When we write to you, take a moment to look beyond our email. Think about what are you writing about, or planning to write about, and ask yourself if a PR person can help you get more information. Another thing to consider is whether a fellow blogger could benefit from some information you just received. Forwarding it to them could earn you brownie points that would translate into traffic. Every message from us is an opportunity!&quot;

Give me a f&#039;ing break. How about you take some time and actually read my blog before pitching me? It is a two way street. PR people acting like half of the information they send out is worth writing about is laughable. Half of the pitches I get aren&#039;t even remotely connected to what I write about on a daily basis. 

Also um, I should consider if this information is valuable to my friends so I can pass it along for you? Do you want me to write the press release for you while I am at it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When we write to you, take a moment to look beyond our email. Think about what are you writing about, or planning to write about, and ask yourself if a PR person can help you get more information. Another thing to consider is whether a fellow blogger could benefit from some information you just received. Forwarding it to them could earn you brownie points that would translate into traffic. Every message from us is an opportunity!&#8221;</p>
<p>Give me a f&#8217;ing break. How about you take some time and actually read my blog before pitching me? It is a two way street. PR people acting like half of the information they send out is worth writing about is laughable. Half of the pitches I get aren&#8217;t even remotely connected to what I write about on a daily basis. </p>
<p>Also um, I should consider if this information is valuable to my friends so I can pass it along for you? Do you want me to write the press release for you while I am at it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>truthfully, this post left me confused</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>truthfully, this post left me confused</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Sebellin-Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Sebellin-Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for the kind words, and I&#039;m glad you found the post useful.

Sangesh: Sorry to hear about how frustrated you are. My primary motivation for writing this entry was to help bloggers better understand how we work. Hopefully, with this increased understanding, we change from an irritating gnat to, erm, a potential snack!

Consider writing back to the people who are writing to you with irrelevant information. Ask them what other companies they represent that might be worth your time. And don&#039;t hesitate to write back to ask them to unsubscribe you -- they just have to take your name off a spreadsheet, for the most part!

Shanel Yang: One blog post isn&#039;t going to tip the scales, I know, but the journey of a hundred miles begins with a single step, ya?

Melanie, Nancy: Your examples and attitude regarding PR people is exactly what I was hoping to foster with this blog post. I think we can all work together for mutual benefit -- the spam will decrease as a result.

Please don&#039;t hesitate to drop your questions in here folks -- I want to help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for the kind words, and I&#8217;m glad you found the post useful.</p>
<p>Sangesh: Sorry to hear about how frustrated you are. My primary motivation for writing this entry was to help bloggers better understand how we work. Hopefully, with this increased understanding, we change from an irritating gnat to, erm, a potential snack!</p>
<p>Consider writing back to the people who are writing to you with irrelevant information. Ask them what other companies they represent that might be worth your time. And don&#8217;t hesitate to write back to ask them to unsubscribe you &#8212; they just have to take your name off a spreadsheet, for the most part!</p>
<p>Shanel Yang: One blog post isn&#8217;t going to tip the scales, I know, but the journey of a hundred miles begins with a single step, ya?</p>
<p>Melanie, Nancy: Your examples and attitude regarding PR people is exactly what I was hoping to foster with this blog post. I think we can all work together for mutual benefit &#8212; the spam will decrease as a result.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t hesitate to drop your questions in here folks &#8212; I want to help!</p>
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		<title>By: almost vegetarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>almost vegetarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great minds and all ...

I&#039;m a blogger and, as luck would have it, I just wrote about this, so if you want to see the world from my point of view and maybe gain a tip or two on how to speak to bloggers so you get results, you are welcome to drop by my site: http://almostvegetarian.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-to-talk-to-blogger-so-you-get.html

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great minds and all &#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a blogger and, as luck would have it, I just wrote about this, so if you want to see the world from my point of view and maybe gain a tip or two on how to speak to bloggers so you get results, you are welcome to drop by my site: <a href="http://almostvegetarian.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-to-talk-to-blogger-so-you-get.html" rel="nofollow">http://almostvegetarian.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-to-talk-to-blogger-so-you-get.html</a></p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate hearing the PR side of things. I receive many PR requests from various companies and I have a great relationship with several marketers. The key to the strong relationship, though, is that we are all getting something: the company offers a product to my readers, I receive more traffic from the giveaway, and the company is getting cheap advertising. Win all around.

What I do not care for is the PR person who writes and asks me to promote their products and is not willing to give anything in return. I am not cheap advertising for free. I would expect that person to buy ad space or offer something for my readers (which, in turn, boosts my traffic: win-win-win). I don&#039;t like to be asked to do something for nothing; it implies that I don&#039;t add value in the long run. If my blog is truly in your niche, partner with me equally--otherwise, don&#039;t waste my or your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate hearing the PR side of things. I receive many PR requests from various companies and I have a great relationship with several marketers. The key to the strong relationship, though, is that we are all getting something: the company offers a product to my readers, I receive more traffic from the giveaway, and the company is getting cheap advertising. Win all around.</p>
<p>What I do not care for is the PR person who writes and asks me to promote their products and is not willing to give anything in return. I am not cheap advertising for free. I would expect that person to buy ad space or offer something for my readers (which, in turn, boosts my traffic: win-win-win). I don&#8217;t like to be asked to do something for nothing; it implies that I don&#8217;t add value in the long run. If my blog is truly in your niche, partner with me equally&#8211;otherwise, don&#8217;t waste my or your time.</p>
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		<title>By: Vidyut Kale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vidyut Kale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Erik for an incredible perspective I had never thought of. My blog isn&#039;t yet &quot;big enough&quot; to get that kind of attention, but it really helps to know this, and develop an understanding of &quot;the other side&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Erik for an incredible perspective I had never thought of. My blog isn&#8217;t yet &#8220;big enough&#8221; to get that kind of attention, but it really helps to know this, and develop an understanding of &#8220;the other side&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post. I get increasing numbers of PR mails and this is useful insight. But...

Check it out. I get lots of mail and if the PR folks have missed the target, I just skip it, hit delete, and move on. That&#039;s fine, I don&#039;t mind because the successful communications more than make up for the spam... still. (That could change.)

What REALLY bugs me is when PR folks don&#039;t close the loop. They send me the mail, I answer it, and then... NOTHING. Typically, what happens is I&#039;ll get mail telling me that such and such a product/service is available and I say, yeah, maybe my readers WOULD like to know about that. Hook me up, I&#039;ll review it, sure.

And I get nothing in return. No response. Nothing. It&#039;s not like I can&#039;t take no for an answer. But YOU mailed ME, remember? So why don&#039;t you answer when I respond? THAT makes me crazy.

On the plus side, over time I have established some nice relationships with PR folks. They know who I am, what interests me, and we have a conversation. I vote yes to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post. I get increasing numbers of PR mails and this is useful insight. But&#8230;</p>
<p>Check it out. I get lots of mail and if the PR folks have missed the target, I just skip it, hit delete, and move on. That&#8217;s fine, I don&#8217;t mind because the successful communications more than make up for the spam&#8230; still. (That could change.)</p>
<p>What REALLY bugs me is when PR folks don&#8217;t close the loop. They send me the mail, I answer it, and then&#8230; NOTHING. Typically, what happens is I&#8217;ll get mail telling me that such and such a product/service is available and I say, yeah, maybe my readers WOULD like to know about that. Hook me up, I&#8217;ll review it, sure.</p>
<p>And I get nothing in return. No response. Nothing. It&#8217;s not like I can&#8217;t take no for an answer. But YOU mailed ME, remember? So why don&#8217;t you answer when I respond? THAT makes me crazy.</p>
<p>On the plus side, over time I have established some nice relationships with PR folks. They know who I am, what interests me, and we have a conversation. I vote yes to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Amir Helzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amir Helzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Erik,

How do I get in touch with you? I&#039;ve looked at your company&#039;s contact page and didn&#039;t see you listed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Erik,</p>
<p>How do I get in touch with you? I&#8217;ve looked at your company&#8217;s contact page and didn&#8217;t see you listed.</p>
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		<title>By: DB Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a recent bad experience with a PR person, and it was really frustrating.  I wanted to do one thing and they wanted to do another.  They approached me with what they were trying to push, and I said what I was willing to do, and they kept pushing for me to link to some of their online &quot;assets&quot;, which were unrelated to my blog topic and quite honestly, were cringeworthy-bad.

I find I have much better luck when I contact the PR people of products I want to work with.  I have a standard letter that goes out that has stats for readership and RSS subscribers (with links to my open Sitemeter account), a list of high-status blogs that have linked to me such as BoingBoing and HuffPo, and my Technorati and Google Pagerank ranking.  I find that approaching them with a good solid collection of data that shows the value of working with me gets my foot in the door much easier.

And when a good PR person is working with you, it&#039;s amazing what kind of swag you can get for yourself and your readers. I&#039;ve received boxes of books for giveaways on multiple occasions, and a few times I&#039;ve been able to run contests where the company even does the mailing and does a cross-link to me on their company blog, driving traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a recent bad experience with a PR person, and it was really frustrating.  I wanted to do one thing and they wanted to do another.  They approached me with what they were trying to push, and I said what I was willing to do, and they kept pushing for me to link to some of their online &#8220;assets&#8221;, which were unrelated to my blog topic and quite honestly, were cringeworthy-bad.</p>
<p>I find I have much better luck when I contact the PR people of products I want to work with.  I have a standard letter that goes out that has stats for readership and RSS subscribers (with links to my open Sitemeter account), a list of high-status blogs that have linked to me such as BoingBoing and HuffPo, and my Technorati and Google Pagerank ranking.  I find that approaching them with a good solid collection of data that shows the value of working with me gets my foot in the door much easier.</p>
<p>And when a good PR person is working with you, it&#8217;s amazing what kind of swag you can get for yourself and your readers. I&#8217;ve received boxes of books for giveaways on multiple occasions, and a few times I&#8217;ve been able to run contests where the company even does the mailing and does a cross-link to me on their company blog, driving traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moncur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Moncur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!

My wife wrote an article from the other side of the fence: 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://laura.moncur.org/archives/2008/06/06/how-to-pitch-to-bloggers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Pitch to a Blogger&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!</p>
<p>My wife wrote an article from the other side of the fence: </p>
<p><a href="http://laura.moncur.org/archives/2008/06/06/how-to-pitch-to-bloggers/" rel="nofollow">How to Pitch to a Blogger</a></p>
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