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		<title>By: Business For Photographers</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2998664</link>
		<dc:creator>Business For Photographers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used a bit of my experience simply because my blog is so new and many people aren&#039;t going to me from some guy with a camera. I do know that within my niche, if a photographer talks too much about himself/herself it generates a lot of resentment.

-- Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used a bit of my experience simply because my blog is so new and many people aren&#8217;t going to me from some guy with a camera. I do know that within my niche, if a photographer talks too much about himself/herself it generates a lot of resentment.</p>
<p>&#8211; Dave</p>
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		<title>By: CoolDula</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2946761</link>
		<dc:creator>CoolDula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;CoolDula&quot; is the smartest guy I know.

-- James McBob, President of JMB Corporation.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;CoolDula&#8221; is the smartest guy I know.</p>
<p>&#8211; James McBob, President of JMB Corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: Reginald</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2935661</link>
		<dc:creator>Reginald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having digested your post, I believe I can acknowledge the logic of it.

Personally, most people like thing simple and straight to the point.

Further, writing about yourself being a guru has the same impact as bragging about yourself in person, in my opinion any way.

This post is a nice realistic read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having digested your post, I believe I can acknowledge the logic of it.</p>
<p>Personally, most people like thing simple and straight to the point.</p>
<p>Further, writing about yourself being a guru has the same impact as bragging about yourself in person, in my opinion any way.</p>
<p>This post is a nice realistic read.</p>
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		<title>By: The Crazy Colombian</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2930837</link>
		<dc:creator>The Crazy Colombian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. This seemingly innocent and small post generated a lot of debate. Perhaps that was its intent? 

I believe on its claims - to some extent. Marketing and humility don&#039;t often hold hands, yet for a successful blogger, it is a balance that is desirable. Essential, I could almost say. 

Take my &lt;i&gt;About&lt;/i&gt; page for example (&lt;a&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;). I loosely followed Skellie&#039;s formula for an effective about page (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skelliewag.org/how-to-write-the-perfect-about-page-by-numbers-150.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;), and was quite happy with the results. Has it brought more traffic? Increased credibility? More subscribers? 

It is hard to tell. It is, after all, a bit early on the process. 

Yet her advise resonated far more than that of Daniel in his post. 

My advice? Follow your intuition. That place that finely balances self-promotion with humility will be different  for every one of us. Find your voice, and don&#039;t hesitate to use it. 

Oh, and when people tell you to stop bragging, you may want to listen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. This seemingly innocent and small post generated a lot of debate. Perhaps that was its intent? </p>
<p>I believe on its claims &#8211; to some extent. Marketing and humility don&#8217;t often hold hands, yet for a successful blogger, it is a balance that is desirable. Essential, I could almost say. </p>
<p>Take my <i>About</i> page for example (<a>link</a>). I loosely followed Skellie&#8217;s formula for an effective about page (<a href="http://www.skelliewag.org/how-to-write-the-perfect-about-page-by-numbers-150.htm" rel="nofollow">link</a>), and was quite happy with the results. Has it brought more traffic? Increased credibility? More subscribers? </p>
<p>It is hard to tell. It is, after all, a bit early on the process. </p>
<p>Yet her advise resonated far more than that of Daniel in his post. </p>
<p>My advice? Follow your intuition. That place that finely balances self-promotion with humility will be different  for every one of us. Find your voice, and don&#8217;t hesitate to use it. </p>
<p>Oh, and when people tell you to stop bragging, you may want to listen!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2929810</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, more good info about blogging, thanks- Brian Morgan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, more good info about blogging, thanks- Brian Morgan</p>
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		<title>By: Search Marketing Courses</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2926260</link>
		<dc:creator>Search Marketing Courses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Tom Beaton made a very good point - About Us pages don&#039;t just have to be about self-promotion.  They can introduce you to your visitors and thus form the very important first step of creating a relationship with those visitors.

Something that I plan to experiment on with my About Us page is taking people on a video tour of my website/blog - showing them the various sections, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Tom Beaton made a very good point &#8211; About Us pages don&#8217;t just have to be about self-promotion.  They can introduce you to your visitors and thus form the very important first step of creating a relationship with those visitors.</p>
<p>Something that I plan to experiment on with my About Us page is taking people on a video tour of my website/blog &#8211; showing them the various sections, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cubicle Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Cubicle Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, self-promotion is somewhat of a gray area. For marketers and stuff, if they don&#039;t mention all of their big accomplishments and sells themselves, it would be hard. For niche-experts and stuff, people calling themselves the guru is not the main seller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, self-promotion is somewhat of a gray area. For marketers and stuff, if they don&#8217;t mention all of their big accomplishments and sells themselves, it would be hard. For niche-experts and stuff, people calling themselves the guru is not the main seller.</p>
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		<title>By: Amadou M. Sall</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2925502</link>
		<dc:creator>Amadou M. Sall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t blow your own horn nobody&#039;s going to blow it for you, especially if every single word you say about yourself is the simple truth and nothing but the truth! 
Excessive humility is as bad as bragging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t blow your own horn nobody&#8217;s going to blow it for you, especially if every single word you say about yourself is the simple truth and nothing but the truth!<br />
Excessive humility is as bad as bragging.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Beaton</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2925390</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Beaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 01:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is always nice to have other people talk about you. That doesnt mean you should not have an about section at all though. People love to read about sections as it makes them feel a greater connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is always nice to have other people talk about you. That doesnt mean you should not have an about section at all though. People love to read about sections as it makes them feel a greater connection.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2925285</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the true wisdom of this post to be in the comments section posted by...&#039;Welcome to Paradise:&#039;

&quot;Great people do not speak for themselves. It is their deeds which speaks for them. We, the normal people, try to shout for ourselves. That’s the difference between great people and normal people.&quot;

Wow that&#039;s profound! Is it &quot;off the cuff?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the true wisdom of this post to be in the comments section posted by&#8230;&#8217;Welcome to Paradise:&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;Great people do not speak for themselves. It is their deeds which speaks for them. We, the normal people, try to shout for ourselves. That’s the difference between great people and normal people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow that&#8217;s profound! Is it &#8220;off the cuff?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Abel</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2925019</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Abel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps some modesty is due on Copyblogger. I seldom find anything revelatory on that blog. The same family of topics seem to get shuffled around, with nothing new to say.

 Some of the advice is quite good, but other times I think Mr. Clark is just typing to fill space. Perhaps it has been better in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps some modesty is due on Copyblogger. I seldom find anything revelatory on that blog. The same family of topics seem to get shuffled around, with nothing new to say.</p>
<p> Some of the advice is quite good, but other times I think Mr. Clark is just typing to fill space. Perhaps it has been better in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Miracle</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2924660</link>
		<dc:creator>Miracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, you might be right to a point, but you are also being a little idealistic.

Take for example your post here.

Does your content prove itself to be true in of itself?
Does it challenge your readers and visitors to think differently?

It does not have the details nor the length (which is actually a good thing for writing) to prove in itself that the claims are correct.

You use 2 examples and thats it to prove your point. You don&#039;t go into why its bad to brag nor give an example of an average blogger who doesn&#039;t make more than a dime off his or her blog but still has great authority solely based off content and word of mouth.

Your post just doesn&#039;t sell me by itself.. but I want to believe you. So what do I (your audience in general) do?

Look at your About page to understand who you are...


And actually what you are suggesting doing about getting others to brag about you is true. I even listed it as the second important thing (behind content) for validation.

The problem is that you discourage a good about page that highlights your achievements and strengths. 

This is sadly misleading advice.

Your post should tell us too not brag on the about page because it looks bad on yourself, but make sure you let people know why you are an authority on the subject.



We need to remember that others giving us validation and providing our own validation are not exclusive. Authority works best when they are both done in honest and tasteful ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, you might be right to a point, but you are also being a little idealistic.</p>
<p>Take for example your post here.</p>
<p>Does your content prove itself to be true in of itself?<br />
Does it challenge your readers and visitors to think differently?</p>
<p>It does not have the details nor the length (which is actually a good thing for writing) to prove in itself that the claims are correct.</p>
<p>You use 2 examples and thats it to prove your point. You don&#8217;t go into why its bad to brag nor give an example of an average blogger who doesn&#8217;t make more than a dime off his or her blog but still has great authority solely based off content and word of mouth.</p>
<p>Your post just doesn&#8217;t sell me by itself.. but I want to believe you. So what do I (your audience in general) do?</p>
<p>Look at your About page to understand who you are&#8230;</p>
<p>And actually what you are suggesting doing about getting others to brag about you is true. I even listed it as the second important thing (behind content) for validation.</p>
<p>The problem is that you discourage a good about page that highlights your achievements and strengths. </p>
<p>This is sadly misleading advice.</p>
<p>Your post should tell us too not brag on the about page because it looks bad on yourself, but make sure you let people know why you are an authority on the subject.</p>
<p>We need to remember that others giving us validation and providing our own validation are not exclusive. Authority works best when they are both done in honest and tasteful ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Shama Hyder</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2924271</link>
		<dc:creator>Shama Hyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure there is anything wrong in calling yourself an expert if you really know your subject. In fact, I would think that after all the hard work you put into something, you earn the right.

It&#039;s a whole another ball game if you don&#039;t know squat about your field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure there is anything wrong in calling yourself an expert if you really know your subject. In fact, I would think that after all the hard work you put into something, you earn the right.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a whole another ball game if you don&#8217;t know squat about your field.</p>
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		<title>By: Make Money Talks</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2923818</link>
		<dc:creator>Make Money Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, pointing right to center!

Their great work and knowledge don&#039;t need &quot;guru&quot; on about page. People talk that about them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, pointing right to center!</p>
<p>Their great work and knowledge don&#8217;t need &#8220;guru&#8221; on about page. People talk that about them!</p>
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		<title>By: feroz</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2923647</link>
		<dc:creator>feroz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the issue isn&#039;t more, its focus, if you are rambling along in your about page, you&#039;re not focused and if you are not focused you cant be really good at anything, just mediocre at all the things you&#039;re on about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the issue isn&#8217;t more, its focus, if you are rambling along in your about page, you&#8217;re not focused and if you are not focused you cant be really good at anything, just mediocre at all the things you&#8217;re on about.</p>
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		<title>By: Welcome to Paradise</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2923579</link>
		<dc:creator>Welcome to Paradise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great people do not speak for themselves. It is their deeds which speaks for them. We, the normal people, try to shout for ourselves. &lt;em&gt;That&#039;s the difference between great people and normal people.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great people do not speak for themselves. It is their deeds which speaks for them. We, the normal people, try to shout for ourselves. <em>That&#8217;s the difference between great people and normal people.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Ruchir Choudhary</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2923313</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruchir Choudhary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 13:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people take the &quot;fake it till you make it&quot; strategy in the wrong sense and you did too. Faking isn&#039;t all about saying that you&#039;re an expert when you&#039;re not. It&#039;s actually about subtly hinting the reader through your content that you&#039;re an expert, especially in the beginning when hardly anyone knows about you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people take the &#8220;fake it till you make it&#8221; strategy in the wrong sense and you did too. Faking isn&#8217;t all about saying that you&#8217;re an expert when you&#8217;re not. It&#8217;s actually about subtly hinting the reader through your content that you&#8217;re an expert, especially in the beginning when hardly anyone knows about you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: L L Woodard</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2923290</link>
		<dc:creator>L L Woodard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 13:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understated or simply stated shows professionalism to me. I&#039;ve noticed that my own &quot;About Me&quot; is rambling; I am trying to establish myself, so I thought more was better. Time to go back to the drawing board for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understated or simply stated shows professionalism to me. I&#8217;ve noticed that my own &#8220;About Me&#8221; is rambling; I am trying to establish myself, so I thought more was better. Time to go back to the drawing board for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaisne Blue Sexton</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2923287</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaisne Blue Sexton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 13:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is excellent advice. There are so many people online presenting themselves as experts and gurus. However, another important point is how people respond to comments that they don&#039;t like. Brian recently was pretty rude to someone who made a very valid point, basically told them to shut up and go away, so that really turned me off and stopped me from purchasing his course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is excellent advice. There are so many people online presenting themselves as experts and gurus. However, another important point is how people respond to comments that they don&#8217;t like. Brian recently was pretty rude to someone who made a very valid point, basically told them to shut up and go away, so that really turned me off and stopped me from purchasing his course.</p>
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		<title>By: Tech Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/03/02/let-other-people-do-the-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-2922865</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true Daniel.For me, The one who claimed himself as Guru&#039;s or Webmaster is a bullshit.</description>
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