Comments on: The Perpetual Hunt for the Front Page of Digg OR Blogging for People Who Actually Engage with You? http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/ Make Money Online Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:07:50 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Sam http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2891838 Sam Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:22:47 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2891838 Invaluable information guys, thanks. I'm just starting out and hoping that good, original writing and content will do good job of growing my site (as well as a judicious bit of Digg!) Invaluable information guys, thanks.

I’m just starting out and hoping that good, original writing and content will do good job of growing my site (as well as a judicious bit of Digg!)

]]> By: Gab "SEO ROI" Goldenberg http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2715993 Gab "SEO ROI" Goldenberg Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:18:58 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2715993 To me the part about connecting with smaller bloggers is absolutely key to building a valuable network of friends. To wit: - Your fellow b5media blogger Susan Gunelius (BrandCurve.com) left my first comment ever, and we've since developed a great relationship including various story tips, guest posts and other miscellanea. - My friend Ann of SEOSmarty.com has given me a variety of links and kudos and recently stumbled a piece of mine resulting in hundreds of visitors. She's been blogging for only a month! - I connected with XMCP of SlightlyShadySEO.com and he's since helped me make Sphinn's front page, linked to me etc. I've helped him with fleshing out posts, scripts, Sphinns etc. - Connecting with other SEOmoz community members like Ann (above), Will Critchlow, Sean Maguire, Vinny Goldsmith, Linda Bustos, Mike Piper, Kat French and a variety of others has yielded hordes of specialized knowledge in things like the travel industry, networking, real estate SEO, SEOing Joomla sites etc. One of my favourite things is to read comments and encourage people who mention some specialized knowledge/experience of theirs to blog about it. That's yielded some great success and I'm quite pleased with it :D. To me the part about connecting with smaller bloggers is absolutely key to building a valuable network of friends. To wit:

- Your fellow b5media blogger Susan Gunelius (BrandCurve.com) left my first comment ever, and we’ve since developed a great relationship including various story tips, guest posts and other miscellanea.
- My friend Ann of SEOSmarty.com has given me a variety of links and kudos and recently stumbled a piece of mine resulting in hundreds of visitors. She’s been blogging for only a month!
- I connected with XMCP of SlightlyShadySEO.com and he’s since helped me make Sphinn’s front page, linked to me etc. I’ve helped him with fleshing out posts, scripts, Sphinns etc.
- Connecting with other SEOmoz community members like Ann (above), Will Critchlow, Sean Maguire, Vinny Goldsmith, Linda Bustos, Mike Piper, Kat French and a variety of others has yielded hordes of specialized knowledge in things like the travel industry, networking, real estate SEO, SEOing Joomla sites etc.

One of my favourite things is to read comments and encourage people who mention some specialized knowledge/experience of theirs to blog about it. That’s yielded some great success and I’m quite pleased with it :D.

]]> By: Simple Mindz http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2714850 Simple Mindz Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:07:24 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2714850 I have not really done all that much with those sites - except sign up.... I am still very new to the game so I am basically new to the (known) blogging community. But I think I am doing something right by Twittering, etc....because my Alexa rank is flying down really fast. I want to be able to make money off my site - but at the same time I want to remain true to me and my (small amount) of readers. ;) I have not really done all that much with those sites – except sign up…. I am still very new to the game so I am basically new to the (known) blogging community. But I think I am doing something right by Twittering, etc….because my Alexa rank is flying down really fast. I want to be able to make money off my site – but at the same time I want to remain true to me and my (small amount) of readers. ;)

]]> By: Luke http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2714845 Luke Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:05:26 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2714845 Hi, I have tremendous luck with about 2 of 100 something posts using social media BUT I agree 100% with Seth. I have noticed slow and steady growth each month regardless of whether I get that much attention. The more quality stuff I write in my area the more traffic I eventually get. To be honest there is no blog worth reading that grew big overnight through social media. I think Seth is right. They look they leave. This has been my experience too. Hi,

I have tremendous luck with about 2 of 100 something posts using social media BUT I agree 100% with Seth. I have noticed slow and steady growth each month regardless of whether I get that much attention. The more quality stuff I write in my area the more traffic I eventually get. To be honest there is no blog worth reading that grew big overnight through social media. I think Seth is right. They look they leave. This has been my experience too.

]]> By: Chris http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2714201 Chris Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:24:40 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2714201 I can repeat a lot of what the other posters have said. I've had a post or two do well or the social news sites. A lot of the effect is a big flashy bang that's looks crazier than it is. You get 100,000 page views, it's a cheap thrill to watch your stats rocket into the sky for a few days, then things return to the status quo. Still, there are those little after effects like the links and the odd visitor who becomes a loyal reader. What irks me is when otherwise good blogs start altering and compromising their content to try to hit that Digg homerun. The smell of link bait puts me off personally. I can repeat a lot of what the other posters have said. I’ve had a post or two do well or the social news sites. A lot of the effect is a big flashy bang that’s looks crazier than it is.

You get 100,000 page views, it’s a cheap thrill to watch your stats rocket into the sky for a few days, then things return to the status quo. Still, there are those little after effects like the links and the odd visitor who becomes a loyal reader.

What irks me is when otherwise good blogs start altering and compromising their content to try to hit that Digg homerun. The smell of link bait puts me off personally.

]]> By: Nick Pernisco http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2713538 Nick Pernisco Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:14:00 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2713538 He also said "Uses only two websites, Google and Facebook" - How did Google and Facebook become Google and Facebook? I think we should aspire to be the Google and Facebook of our industries - that way our names end up in the stats. He also said “Uses only two websites, Google and Facebook” – How did Google and Facebook become Google and Facebook? I think we should aspire to be the Google and Facebook of our industries – that way our names end up in the stats.

]]> By: Val http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2713509 Val Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:06:22 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2713509 I started a personal blog, really to use as a guinea pig as I learn. I am getting hits everyday, but still trying to understand how to get traffic. Please help...how to get traffic to your blog would be greatly appreciated! I started a personal blog, really to use as a guinea pig as I learn.
I am getting hits everyday, but still trying to understand how to get traffic.
Please help…how to get traffic to your blog would be greatly appreciated!

]]> By: Frugal Dad http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2712541 Frugal Dad Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:27:16 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2712541 I had an article stumbled the first week I was blogging (and it was even referenced on an MSNMoney.com page). In some ways it was the worst thing that could have happened to me because it set my expectations for thousands of visitors a day right off the bat. Obviously, that isn't the way it works. I've settled into my routine now and write for the enjoyment of writing, not because I anticipate that same lightning striking again anytime soon (though I certainly wouldn't complain if it did!). I had an article stumbled the first week I was blogging (and it was even referenced on an MSNMoney.com page). In some ways it was the worst thing that could have happened to me because it set my expectations for thousands of visitors a day right off the bat. Obviously, that isn’t the way it works. I’ve settled into my routine now and write for the enjoyment of writing, not because I anticipate that same lightning striking again anytime soon (though I certainly wouldn’t complain if it did!).

]]> By: Web productivity http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2712484 Web productivity Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:13:27 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2712484 There must be a balance between both. There must be a balance between both.

]]> By: DefogMyBlog http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2712456 DefogMyBlog Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:07:38 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2712456 I don't know about getting on the front page of Digg but I have helped someone to get out of the Google sandbank by the judicious use of Digg, a spoonful of delicious and other medicines like YouTube. Mending broken links and getting some traffic appeared to work. I don’t know about getting on the front page of Digg but I have helped someone to get out of the Google sandbank by the judicious use of Digg, a spoonful of delicious and other medicines like YouTube. Mending broken links and getting some traffic appeared to work.

]]> By: Search◊ Engines Web http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2712298 Search◊ Engines Web Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:25:56 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2712298 <b> DO EVERYTHING</b> In the case of social bookmarking sites, the backlinks that they bring not only increase your rankings on search engines - but they increase your pagerank and every internal page that is linked to from the popular article. Also, a small percentage may review your achives and come back as regulars if they anticipate a steady flow of quality material. Traffic from Search Engines and blog searches can be great if the blog is optimized correctly. The titles - the URL- and the keywords in the backlinks will help get relevant traffic for months after the spike on the social bookmarking site. Interestingly, some consultants are now promoting articles so aggressively that a decent article can almost be guaranteed to get a homepage on Digg, Reddit and Youtube for a price. additionally, making a bond with a top member and having that person submit your quality articles or blog topics can do wonders. DO EVERYTHING

In the case of social bookmarking sites, the backlinks that they bring not only increase your rankings on search engines – but they increase your pagerank and every internal page that is linked to from the popular article.

Also, a small percentage may review your achives and come back as regulars if they anticipate a steady flow of quality material.

Traffic from Search Engines and blog searches can be great if the blog is optimized correctly. The titles – the URL- and the keywords in the backlinks will help get relevant traffic for months after the spike on the social bookmarking site.

Interestingly, some consultants are now promoting articles so aggressively that a decent article can almost be guaranteed to get a homepage on Digg, Reddit and Youtube for a price.

additionally, making a bond with a top member and having that person submit your quality articles or blog topics can do wonders.

]]> By: Garg the Unzola http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2712271 Garg the Unzola Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:19:49 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2712271 Seth Godwin is great! I haven't managed to get much Digg or Stumble attention, although Stumble has given me a bit of traffic. The most effective traffic I got from these 2 communities were <b>loyal subscribers</b> who added me as contacts to their pages. My page hits have hit a plateau, but at least they are consistent. Now I'm just <b>watering the blog</b>, watching it grow (thanks to Darren for that one..). <a href="http://necrofiles.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">The Necro Files</a> Seth Godwin is great! I haven’t managed to get much Digg or Stumble attention, although Stumble has given me a bit of traffic. The most effective traffic I got from these 2 communities were loyal subscribers who added me as contacts to their pages.

My page hits have hit a plateau, but at least they are consistent. Now I’m just watering the blog, watching it grow (thanks to Darren for that one..).

The Necro Files

]]> By: alanj878 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2712254 alanj878 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:17:08 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2712254 I did not hunt to get on the front page it hunted me and I got thousand of links from it. I got there with a video on my blog seen here http://livelymoney.blogspot.com/2007/12/top-5-stock-picks-in-ghetto.html I did not hunt to get on the front page it hunted me and I got thousand of links from it. I got there with a video on my blog seen here http://livelymoney.blogspot.com/2007/12/top-5-stock-picks-in-ghetto.html

]]> By: Matthew http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2712084 Matthew Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:30:20 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2712084 Jimmy is right on there with his comment. You might gain 9000+ visits on a good stumbled post and you might gain 25K+ visits from a digg front page. Yes, 99.9% of those visitors might not remember you and just go back to digg to carry on digging. But it does get you on the radar of other bloggers. They will follow your site/feed and if you carry on posting good worthy articles, they will link and continue to link over the coming years. It is those link backs that help your search engine traffic to grow. Repeat the process a few times and you will have a nice group of contacts to link with. The more they link, the more chances of other bloggers finding you through their blog increase. Digg and Stumble just speeds up the process of getting your name out there even if the conversion to reader is very low. Due to the sheer amount of traffic it's still good, but it's only a part of the whole picture that makes a blog/site successful. Some might complain that it's wasting 4 - 5 Gb of traffic in a day. That concern back in 2001 might have been valid, but due to the low cost of bandwidth/transfer it's not a factor to really worry about any more. Jimmy is right on there with his comment. You might gain 9000+ visits on a good stumbled post and you might gain 25K+ visits from a digg front page. Yes, 99.9% of those visitors might not remember you and just go back to digg to carry on digging. But it does get you on the radar of other bloggers. They will follow your site/feed and if you carry on posting good worthy articles, they will link and continue to link over the coming years. It is those link backs that help your search engine traffic to grow. Repeat the process a few times and you will have a nice group of contacts to link with.

The more they link, the more chances of other bloggers finding you through their blog increase.

Digg and Stumble just speeds up the process of getting your name out there even if the conversion to reader is very low. Due to the sheer amount of traffic it’s still good, but it’s only a part of the whole picture that makes a blog/site successful.

Some might complain that it’s wasting 4 – 5 Gb of traffic in a day. That concern back in 2001 might have been valid, but due to the low cost of bandwidth/transfer it’s not a factor to really worry about any more.

]]> By: aaron http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2712042 aaron Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:21:08 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2712042 put in the work you need...but let the blogging be what it it. If you are building community and giving people fresh material to read over and comment...you'll begin to build a readership. People want solid truth and fresh perspective! put in the work you need…but let the blogging be what it it. If you are building community and giving people fresh material to read over and comment…you’ll begin to build a readership. People want solid truth and fresh perspective!

]]> By: Shayon http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2711978 Shayon Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:03:28 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2711978 Agree with iLovePhilippinesToo! in one aspect, definitely. It's true that there are times when your friends too come up with their own blogs seeing you earning money off yours. I know it for sure 'coz almost 10 of my friends have followed my footsteps in the past 2 years!! :-) Agree with iLovePhilippinesToo! in one aspect, definitely. It’s true that there are times when your friends too come up with their own blogs seeing you earning money off yours. I know it for sure ‘coz almost 10 of my friends have followed my footsteps in the past 2 years!! :-)

]]> By: ILovePhilippinesToo! http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2711951 ILovePhilippinesToo! Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:56:47 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2711951 I always go after what is inside the site. There are thousands of traffic techniques going around especially these click bucks sites but they are not that interesting. They are making short-term success as I see it. Unlike posts with good contents and sense, they can stay forever. Networking is also not a bad idea, to have your friends see what you are doing or posting in your blogs. In the long run, and if they see that you are earning, they might even set up their own sites. . I always go after what is inside the site. There are thousands of traffic techniques going around especially these click bucks sites but they are not that interesting. They are making short-term success as I see it. Unlike posts with good contents and sense, they can stay forever.

Networking is also not a bad idea, to have your friends see what you are doing or posting in your blogs. In the long run, and if they see that you are earning, they might even set up their own sites. .

]]> By: ILovePhilippinesToo! http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2711941 ILovePhilippinesToo! Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:55:16 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2711941 I always go after content. There are thousands of traffic techniques going around especially these click bucks sites but they are not that interesting. They are making short-term success as I see it. Unlike posts with good contents, they can stay forever. Networking is also not a bad idea, to have your friends see what you are doing or posting in your blogs. In the long run, and if they see you are earning, they might even set up their own sites. . I always go after content. There are thousands of traffic techniques going around especially these click bucks sites but they are not that interesting. They are making short-term success as I see it. Unlike posts with good contents, they can stay forever.

Networking is also not a bad idea, to have your friends see what you are doing or posting in your blogs. In the long run, and if they see you are earning, they might even set up their own sites. .

]]> By: Neil Duckett http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2711921 Neil Duckett Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:50:49 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2711921 I've had 2 posts stumbled with great traffic gains in the last 2 weeks. Interestingly the bounce rate was very low, average pages per visit very high and lots seem to have stuck around for repeat visits. While the traffic is often fly by traffic, it's better to get the traffic in the door, then it's up to you to converty it and encourage it to stick around. I’ve had 2 posts stumbled with great traffic gains in the last 2 weeks. Interestingly the bounce rate was very low, average pages per visit very high and lots seem to have stuck around for repeat visits. While the traffic is often fly by traffic, it’s better to get the traffic in the door, then it’s up to you to converty it and encourage it to stick around.

]]> By: Jimmy Shelter http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2711850 Jimmy Shelter Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:25:55 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/28/the-perpetual-hunt-for-the-front-page-of-digg-or-blogging-for-people-who-actually-engage-with-you/#comment-2711850 After submitting some posts to StumbleUpon, Digg and Reddit a while ago I noticed the number of hits from Google has risen. So while a lot of the traffic from the social sites like Digg seems one-time, the effect lasts a lot longer, because you get linked from high traffic, high pagerank sites. Ofcoure keeping traffic requires good content, but the effect of using the social sites has a rather long effect. After submitting some posts to StumbleUpon, Digg and Reddit a while ago I noticed the number of hits from Google has risen.

So while a lot of the traffic from the social sites like Digg seems one-time, the effect lasts a lot longer, because you get linked from high traffic, high pagerank sites.

Ofcoure keeping traffic requires good content, but the effect of using the social sites has a rather long effect.

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