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		<title>By: Gavin Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 04:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She replied &quot;I can&#039;t tell you that&quot; when you asked for the source of her report?? That&#039;s hardly good journalism. 

I think it&#039;s a credit to blogging that we&#039;ve become so meticulous about citing our sources. To counteract the fact that literally anybody can blog, we&#039;ve become very good at increasing our credibility through citations. The lack of transparency demonstrated by this journalist is, in my view, not helpful for the reader or the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She replied &#8220;I can&#8217;t tell you that&#8221; when you asked for the source of her report?? That&#8217;s hardly good journalism. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a credit to blogging that we&#8217;ve become so meticulous about citing our sources. To counteract the fact that literally anybody can blog, we&#8217;ve become very good at increasing our credibility through citations. The lack of transparency demonstrated by this journalist is, in my view, not helpful for the reader or the story.</p>
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		<title>By: cindy*staged4more</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindy*staged4more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the gray area where our law hasn&#039;t caught up with the times.

Personally I feel that if it were copied word-for-word, then you have grounds to be irritated and legal rights to pursue it. But if the blog inspired her to write an article on the topic, that&#039;s another story (sorry, no puns intended here). I didn&#039;t read the article vs. your blog so I don&#039;t know how to respond to your issue.

But obviously the journalist Michele Young is borderline ethical and she knows it.. What kind of professional journalist would answer: 

&quot;er, I guess I stole it.&quot; 
=&gt; what?!

&quot;I didn&#039;t realize you were planning on quoting me when we spoke this morning.&quot; 
=&gt;umm, and you call yourself a journalist? Don&#039;t you know everything you said may end up on a blog somewhere, *especially* you know your speaking with a blogger?!

&quot;you did catch me when my mind was focused on other things.&quot; 
=&gt;In other words, she is saying &quot;You were not important enough for me to focus on you in this meeting.&quot;

&quot;I get phone calls regularly from people raising issues or questions — as your item did. News media do not name someone for raising a question. They do raise sources who provide answers. I hope that clarifies the issue.&quot; 
=&gt;It&#039;s different when someone actively calls you up and tip you that info, it&#039;s another story you google and find it on the blog. 

I think she handled herself and represented her newspaper poorly, it was just unprofessional and laughable. I didn&#039;t go to journalism school, but it doesn&#039;t take one to figure out that logic is a big part of their jobs.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,
Cindy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the gray area where our law hasn&#8217;t caught up with the times.</p>
<p>Personally I feel that if it were copied word-for-word, then you have grounds to be irritated and legal rights to pursue it. But if the blog inspired her to write an article on the topic, that&#8217;s another story (sorry, no puns intended here). I didn&#8217;t read the article vs. your blog so I don&#8217;t know how to respond to your issue.</p>
<p>But obviously the journalist Michele Young is borderline ethical and she knows it.. What kind of professional journalist would answer: </p>
<p>&#8220;er, I guess I stole it.&#8221;<br />
=&gt; what?!</p>
<p>&#8220;I didn&#8217;t realize you were planning on quoting me when we spoke this morning.&#8221;<br />
=&gt;umm, and you call yourself a journalist? Don&#8217;t you know everything you said may end up on a blog somewhere, *especially* you know your speaking with a blogger?!</p>
<p>&#8220;you did catch me when my mind was focused on other things.&#8221;<br />
=&gt;In other words, she is saying &#8220;You were not important enough for me to focus on you in this meeting.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I get phone calls regularly from people raising issues or questions — as your item did. News media do not name someone for raising a question. They do raise sources who provide answers. I hope that clarifies the issue.&#8221;<br />
=&gt;It&#8217;s different when someone actively calls you up and tip you that info, it&#8217;s another story you google and find it on the blog. </p>
<p>I think she handled herself and represented her newspaper poorly, it was just unprofessional and laughable. I didn&#8217;t go to journalism school, but it doesn&#8217;t take one to figure out that logic is a big part of their jobs.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Cindy</p>
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		<title>By: abby Ives</title>
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		<dc:creator>abby Ives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is frustrating, disappointing and highly annoying to put in the work and then be denied the &quot;credit&quot; for unearthing the idea in the first place, but there is a lemons/lemonade piece here, and that would be to strike a blow for blogging; try to educate the reporter as to why this is a problem for you as well as to align with her so she will come to AND credit you in the future, if, in the normal course of events, you are both covering the same territory.  It may be cold comfort after the fact, but if you can develop a relationship, it might have a beneficial future payoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is frustrating, disappointing and highly annoying to put in the work and then be denied the &#8220;credit&#8221; for unearthing the idea in the first place, but there is a lemons/lemonade piece here, and that would be to strike a blow for blogging; try to educate the reporter as to why this is a problem for you as well as to align with her so she will come to AND credit you in the future, if, in the normal course of events, you are both covering the same territory.  It may be cold comfort after the fact, but if you can develop a relationship, it might have a beneficial future payoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Nally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Nally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I should add to my comments above, that they also published a correction in the next issue attributing the news item to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I should add to my comments above, that they also published a correction in the next issue attributing the news item to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Nally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Nally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I encountered a situation last year where a trade journal I actually subscribe to inadvertently published word-for-word news item from my blog that they were passing around the office as research (or at least that was the explanation that I got). Since I subscribe, I noticed it of course! The editor is familiar with me and when I contacted her about it, we were able to work out payment for the item that included a penalty above their normal compensation for the unauthorized use of the item. It was important for me to defend my copyright of my work since my job is as a freelance writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encountered a situation last year where a trade journal I actually subscribe to inadvertently published word-for-word news item from my blog that they were passing around the office as research (or at least that was the explanation that I got). Since I subscribe, I noticed it of course! The editor is familiar with me and when I contacted her about it, we were able to work out payment for the item that included a penalty above their normal compensation for the unauthorized use of the item. It was important for me to defend my copyright of my work since my job is as a freelance writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CatherineL (&quot;A few years ago, I was in a similar situation. I wrote an article for a local newspaper and one of their employees took the credit for the work and they also tried to get out of paying me.&quot;).
That is very bad form and they are completely in the wrong in your case. However it sounds like a very different situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CatherineL (&#8221;A few years ago, I was in a similar situation. I wrote an article for a local newspaper and one of their employees took the credit for the work and they also tried to get out of paying me.&#8221;).<br />
That is very bad form and they are completely in the wrong in your case. However it sounds like a very different situation.</p>
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		<title>By: sdenterprise</title>
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		<dc:creator>sdenterprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had a bit of one of my blogs ripped off before by a lazy journalist (I am not saying you are all lazy, just this one in particular, before you print that as a comment in some paper somewhere).

I spoke with the journalist in question just after it was printed and they also said that they had used the blog for content and not said who wrote it in the first place.

I ended up getting free PR at a later date as a result of a friendly conversation with the dood in question... it turned out to benefit me in the long run... just a bit of luck maybe, but that may be an idea...

cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a bit of one of my blogs ripped off before by a lazy journalist (I am not saying you are all lazy, just this one in particular, before you print that as a comment in some paper somewhere).</p>
<p>I spoke with the journalist in question just after it was printed and they also said that they had used the blog for content and not said who wrote it in the first place.</p>
<p>I ended up getting free PR at a later date as a result of a friendly conversation with the dood in question&#8230; it turned out to benefit me in the long run&#8230; just a bit of luck maybe, but that may be an idea&#8230;</p>
<p>cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: CatherineL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CatherineL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely write to the editor and complain.  A few years ago, I was in a similar situation.  I wrote an article for a local newspaper and one of their employees took the credit for the work and they also tried to get out of paying me.

And to make matters worse, another reporter overheard her trying to sell the article to a national magazine.

I spoke to the editor who claimed that his employee had to totally rewrite and edit what I sent in.  This was total BS - she hadn&#039;t changed a thing.

So, I faxed all my notes and the original document to my solicitor.  And upon his advice, invoiced the publication for a ridiculously high amount.  As he guessed they would - they paid me a lower sum immediately, but they never apologised.

It was annoying, that my byline was stolen, because I was writing to build up clips at the time.

How much work did she actually steal from you?  Was it more or less the same story with the words changed?  

Or did she approach it from a different angle and add new materials?

If the former is the case - you should be able to do something about it and if so, it might worth considering doing the same as what I did - speak to the editor and if you get know joy, send them a hefty bill.  Just think of a sum and add a zero on the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely write to the editor and complain.  A few years ago, I was in a similar situation.  I wrote an article for a local newspaper and one of their employees took the credit for the work and they also tried to get out of paying me.</p>
<p>And to make matters worse, another reporter overheard her trying to sell the article to a national magazine.</p>
<p>I spoke to the editor who claimed that his employee had to totally rewrite and edit what I sent in.  This was total BS &#8211; she hadn&#8217;t changed a thing.</p>
<p>So, I faxed all my notes and the original document to my solicitor.  And upon his advice, invoiced the publication for a ridiculously high amount.  As he guessed they would &#8211; they paid me a lower sum immediately, but they never apologised.</p>
<p>It was annoying, that my byline was stolen, because I was writing to build up clips at the time.</p>
<p>How much work did she actually steal from you?  Was it more or less the same story with the words changed?  </p>
<p>Or did she approach it from a different angle and add new materials?</p>
<p>If the former is the case &#8211; you should be able to do something about it and if so, it might worth considering doing the same as what I did &#8211; speak to the editor and if you get know joy, send them a hefty bill.  Just think of a sum and add a zero on the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Reverse Funnel System Review</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reverse Funnel System Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wayne Liew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Liew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never had any posts featured on an offline media but I do have some submitted by posts articles to some mags and got featured. Of course, they do include my name on it. For Donald&#039;s case, I felt sorry for you but these things happen frequently out there, even in the blogosphere. Anyway, I don&#039;t think most blogs are influential enough to shake a mainstream media&#039;s actions.

I do credit my ideas sources as for me, they deserve the credit since I am inspired of what to write because of their articles. 

Also, linking out has been a good way to network with other bloggers. He/she will not know that you are writing about their articles without you linking to them. Cross blog discussions or conversations will not only help spreading your ideas, you might also make new friends who shares the same views on certain issues over the blogosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never had any posts featured on an offline media but I do have some submitted by posts articles to some mags and got featured. Of course, they do include my name on it. For Donald&#8217;s case, I felt sorry for you but these things happen frequently out there, even in the blogosphere. Anyway, I don&#8217;t think most blogs are influential enough to shake a mainstream media&#8217;s actions.</p>
<p>I do credit my ideas sources as for me, they deserve the credit since I am inspired of what to write because of their articles. </p>
<p>Also, linking out has been a good way to network with other bloggers. He/she will not know that you are writing about their articles without you linking to them. Cross blog discussions or conversations will not only help spreading your ideas, you might also make new friends who shares the same views on certain issues over the blogosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope I am not out of line in making multiple comments but I just thought I would give an example to elaborate on what I have said above.

What happens if I work for the Daily Herald (names are fictitious) and the Local Weekly runs an interesting story that I think has relevance to my readers? Let&#039;s say the Local Weekly quotes the local mayor and a number of High Street shopkeepers. Do I copy the Local Weekly story? No, I do not. But do I quote the Local Weekly or cite it as a source? No, I do not. 

What I do is call up the local mayor and get a fresh interview and go down the High Street and talk to shopkeepers myself. Do I cite my sources? Yes, I do. But the &quot;sources&quot; in the story are the mayor and the shopkeepers, not the Local Weekly story that gave me the idea. 

If, however, the Local Weekly had access to special council documents that had been leaked in a sensational or noteworthy way then I might mention them because the fact that the story got out, and the method by which it got out, has become part of the story. 

It&#039;s about what best serves the READERS. They usually don&#039;t care who said what first, they just want the news.

Blogging is different because one of the features of blogs is the conversation and the linking and citing. As a blogger, I always cite sources and I link where possible. But what I am doing is not the same as reporting and my duty is to my peers as much as it is to the readers. There&#039;s also reciprocity - I expect other bloggers to also link and cite when they are bouncing ideas that I originated. It&#039;s all part of the game and it&#039;s lots of fun. It&#039;s different to, but not better than, journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I am not out of line in making multiple comments but I just thought I would give an example to elaborate on what I have said above.</p>
<p>What happens if I work for the Daily Herald (names are fictitious) and the Local Weekly runs an interesting story that I think has relevance to my readers? Let&#8217;s say the Local Weekly quotes the local mayor and a number of High Street shopkeepers. Do I copy the Local Weekly story? No, I do not. But do I quote the Local Weekly or cite it as a source? No, I do not. </p>
<p>What I do is call up the local mayor and get a fresh interview and go down the High Street and talk to shopkeepers myself. Do I cite my sources? Yes, I do. But the &#8220;sources&#8221; in the story are the mayor and the shopkeepers, not the Local Weekly story that gave me the idea. </p>
<p>If, however, the Local Weekly had access to special council documents that had been leaked in a sensational or noteworthy way then I might mention them because the fact that the story got out, and the method by which it got out, has become part of the story. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s about what best serves the READERS. They usually don&#8217;t care who said what first, they just want the news.</p>
<p>Blogging is different because one of the features of blogs is the conversation and the linking and citing. As a blogger, I always cite sources and I link where possible. But what I am doing is not the same as reporting and my duty is to my peers as much as it is to the readers. There&#8217;s also reciprocity &#8211; I expect other bloggers to also link and cite when they are bouncing ideas that I originated. It&#8217;s all part of the game and it&#8217;s lots of fun. It&#8217;s different to, but not better than, journalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AmyL, I did a food writing course last year at the Arvon Foundation, with Sophie Grigson and Alastair Hendy. You are partially correct in saying there is no copyright on recipes. It is true that there is no copyright in the ingredients and method - it is instruction rather than a creation of literary merit. However, there is copyright in the expression (ie the wording and structure). And it is common practice, although not mandatory, among recipe writers to cite each other and tell where the inspiration for recipes has come from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AmyL, I did a food writing course last year at the Arvon Foundation, with Sophie Grigson and Alastair Hendy. You are partially correct in saying there is no copyright on recipes. It is true that there is no copyright in the ingredients and method &#8211; it is instruction rather than a creation of literary merit. However, there is copyright in the expression (ie the wording and structure). And it is common practice, although not mandatory, among recipe writers to cite each other and tell where the inspiration for recipes has come from.</p>
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		<title>By: Court</title>
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		<dc:creator>Court</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing&#039;s for sure: Bloggers certainly are getting some inflated egos these days.

Give any opinionated goofball out there a keyboard and an internet connection and suddenly they&#039;re to be respected the same as a New York Times journalist.

Newsflash: There&#039;s a big difference between stealing content and elaborating on ideas available to the general public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing&#8217;s for sure: Bloggers certainly are getting some inflated egos these days.</p>
<p>Give any opinionated goofball out there a keyboard and an internet connection and suddenly they&#8217;re to be respected the same as a New York Times journalist.</p>
<p>Newsflash: There&#8217;s a big difference between stealing content and elaborating on ideas available to the general public.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing to be done and nothing that can be done. I don&#039;t think the blogger understands how newspapers work.

Newspapers get ideas for stories all the time - from contacts and sources, from blogs, from other newspapers and media outlets. There is no copyright in the idea and no rule that whoever does the story first must be acknowledged - the newspaper will simply do its own investigation and redo the story as its own.

Generally speaking, aknowledgement will be given only in cases when:
a) the story is a scoop and the newspaper is feeling generous enough to acknowledge the scoop, or it is so big that they really have to (think Watergate, not a local sports facility).
or b) it suits the purpose of the article to draw attention to public opinionin the blogosphere (quoting blogs can be a lazy replacement for pavement pounding and getting vox pops from real life people) or the media attention that an issue has received.
or c) the newspaper has been unable to do its own investigation and verify the information in the original story. Therefore they will use information and quotes citing the original source, rather than claim it as their own. This is as much to cover themselves if the info is wrong as it is to give acknowledgement - it signals to the reader that they haven&#039;t actually verified the info so it serves to make it more questionnable than credible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing to be done and nothing that can be done. I don&#8217;t think the blogger understands how newspapers work.</p>
<p>Newspapers get ideas for stories all the time &#8211; from contacts and sources, from blogs, from other newspapers and media outlets. There is no copyright in the idea and no rule that whoever does the story first must be acknowledged &#8211; the newspaper will simply do its own investigation and redo the story as its own.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, aknowledgement will be given only in cases when:<br />
a) the story is a scoop and the newspaper is feeling generous enough to acknowledge the scoop, or it is so big that they really have to (think Watergate, not a local sports facility).<br />
or b) it suits the purpose of the article to draw attention to public opinionin the blogosphere (quoting blogs can be a lazy replacement for pavement pounding and getting vox pops from real life people) or the media attention that an issue has received.<br />
or c) the newspaper has been unable to do its own investigation and verify the information in the original story. Therefore they will use information and quotes citing the original source, rather than claim it as their own. This is as much to cover themselves if the info is wrong as it is to give acknowledgement &#8211; it signals to the reader that they haven&#8217;t actually verified the info so it serves to make it more questionnable than credible.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/14/crediting-story-sources-what-would-you-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2623733</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 06:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AmyL: Yes, you&#039;re absolutely right. Newspapers and magazines often say &#039;adapted&#039; or &#039;inspired&#039; by when re-publishing  recipes.

But if we&#039;re going to criticize &#039;real&#039; journalists for ethical lapses and not properly citing sources, we as bloggers should be just as vigilant (if not more) since we have the ability to easily provide a link to our source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AmyL: Yes, you&#8217;re absolutely right. Newspapers and magazines often say &#8216;adapted&#8217; or &#8216;inspired&#8217; by when re-publishing  recipes.</p>
<p>But if we&#8217;re going to criticize &#8216;real&#8217; journalists for ethical lapses and not properly citing sources, we as bloggers should be just as vigilant (if not more) since we have the ability to easily provide a link to our source.</p>
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		<title>By: Technology Slice</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/14/crediting-story-sources-what-would-you-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2623634</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology Slice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 06:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would make them give credit to you and leave it at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would make them give credit to you and leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: AmyL</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmyL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 04:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, to my knowledge recipes cannot be copyrighted.  If I were to write and sell a cookbook, all of the recipes would be public domain from that point onward.  Any of my own words, explanations, etc. would be protected under copyright, but the actual recipe...list of ingredients, steps to take, etc. are not protected.   While it would be nice to attribute where you got a recipe from, it doesn&#039;t fall under the usual attribution requirements.  And if she&#039;s adapted a recipe, then doesn&#039;t that then make it an original?

As for the news story if you can&#039;t prove that plagiarism took place then I say drop the issue but keep an eye on the reporter.  Good relations with the press may be valuable in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, to my knowledge recipes cannot be copyrighted.  If I were to write and sell a cookbook, all of the recipes would be public domain from that point onward.  Any of my own words, explanations, etc. would be protected under copyright, but the actual recipe&#8230;list of ingredients, steps to take, etc. are not protected.   While it would be nice to attribute where you got a recipe from, it doesn&#8217;t fall under the usual attribution requirements.  And if she&#8217;s adapted a recipe, then doesn&#8217;t that then make it an original?</p>
<p>As for the news story if you can&#8217;t prove that plagiarism took place then I say drop the issue but keep an eye on the reporter.  Good relations with the press may be valuable in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin(Pusha)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin(Pusha)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren- I would write a letter to the editor explaining the circumstances.  Journalists look down on these practices and a good editor would frown upon this and put this writer in her place.  I don&#039;t think she deserves to get fired over it but just to let the paper know that they need the give credit to their sources.  If you lay down with a site as popular as yours, they&#039;ll think they can do the same for all blogs (especially one&#039;s significantly smaller than yours).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren- I would write a letter to the editor explaining the circumstances.  Journalists look down on these practices and a good editor would frown upon this and put this writer in her place.  I don&#8217;t think she deserves to get fired over it but just to let the paper know that they need the give credit to their sources.  If you lay down with a site as popular as yours, they&#8217;ll think they can do the same for all blogs (especially one&#8217;s significantly smaller than yours).</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, this is pretty normal. I&#039;ve worked in several newsrooms and a lot of time is spent reading competing papers, magazines and whatnot and pilfering stories. As others have said, you can&#039;t copyright an IDEA. Besides, the original source still gets the glory of having scooped everyone else...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, this is pretty normal. I&#8217;ve worked in several newsrooms and a lot of time is spent reading competing papers, magazines and whatnot and pilfering stories. As others have said, you can&#8217;t copyright an IDEA. Besides, the original source still gets the glory of having scooped everyone else&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hoboken411</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoboken411</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The local paper here &quot;gets inspired&quot; from my site at LEAST 10 times a week, and without me, they&#039;d be fishing for stories that really stink. God forbid I ever take a week off!

There&#039;s one way to bite back.. take one of their stupid stories and publish (re-written) on your site (with no credit).. maybe they won&#039;t like how it feels either.

If they want to play that game, then let them... Their loss for not forming a good relationship with a (much more) influential blogger.

In the end, my readers out-number theirs 1000 to 1... so burn on them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The local paper here &#8220;gets inspired&#8221; from my site at LEAST 10 times a week, and without me, they&#8217;d be fishing for stories that really stink. God forbid I ever take a week off!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s one way to bite back.. take one of their stupid stories and publish (re-written) on your site (with no credit).. maybe they won&#8217;t like how it feels either.</p>
<p>If they want to play that game, then let them&#8230; Their loss for not forming a good relationship with a (much more) influential blogger.</p>
<p>In the end, my readers out-number theirs 1000 to 1&#8230; so burn on them!</p>
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