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	<title>Comments on: AdSense Change Rules &#8211; Stupidity Stupidity Stupidity</title>
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		<title>By: Online Book Reviews</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-4326482</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Book Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adsense referrals are now hard to come by. However, a great idea is by creating your own adsense tutorial program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adsense referrals are now hard to come by. However, a great idea is by creating your own adsense tutorial program.</p>
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		<title>By: kinski</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-4218194</link>
		<dc:creator>kinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google is getting big and greedy like every other big company.  The always pay may ad sense commission late. These days if you try to reach someone regarding this via e-mail good luck.  Looks like the took out the customer care option, reducing staff??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is getting big and greedy like every other big company.  The always pay may ad sense commission late. These days if you try to reach someone regarding this via e-mail good luck.  Looks like the took out the customer care option, reducing staff??</p>
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		<title>By: Make money for surfing</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-4171038</link>
		<dc:creator>Make money for surfing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then new decision will reduce my earning as I have promoted referrals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then new decision will reduce my earning as I have promoted referrals</p>
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		<title>By: hot layouts</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-3462456</link>
		<dc:creator>hot layouts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the update!</description>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-3149958</link>
		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also blog ftom Greece and i Can&#039;t add any refferal ads which target to us people to my blog.

http://funnyhack.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also blog ftom Greece and i Can&#8217;t add any refferal ads which target to us people to my blog.</p>
<p><a href="http://funnyhack.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://funnyhack.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fat Lester</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-2783359</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AdSense is a horrible decision for any small business and all but a few bloggers.  This is especially true if you&#039;re actually making money from it.

There are several reasons why small companies should avoid doing business with Google at all costs:

1. Google won&#039;t talk to you. In fact, your company isn&#039;t even important enough for them to provide you with a phone number.

2. Google reserves the right to ban your account and keep all your earnings for any reason it sees fit and/or no reason at all.

3. Google doesn&#039;t differentiate between you fraudulently clicking your own ads and your competitors fraudulently clicking your own ads. In either case, your account will be banned and your money withheld - and that includes anything revenue generated by legitimate clicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AdSense is a horrible decision for any small business and all but a few bloggers.  This is especially true if you&#8217;re actually making money from it.</p>
<p>There are several reasons why small companies should avoid doing business with Google at all costs:</p>
<p>1. Google won&#8217;t talk to you. In fact, your company isn&#8217;t even important enough for them to provide you with a phone number.</p>
<p>2. Google reserves the right to ban your account and keep all your earnings for any reason it sees fit and/or no reason at all.</p>
<p>3. Google doesn&#8217;t differentiate between you fraudulently clicking your own ads and your competitors fraudulently clicking your own ads. In either case, your account will be banned and your money withheld &#8211; and that includes anything revenue generated by legitimate clicks.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-2773901</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The U.S. considers the Internet to be theirs sharing it with the rest of the world. This may be about competition. Funny thing.

 One of my posts was not crawled by Googlebot and came back an error. It was a post about China being the second largest online community in the world. Oddly enough that was the only post it appears,  that week that produced anything at all from AdSense for Content. It all sounds very fishy. 

The Internet is a global community and however diverse opinions and beliefs are, it is still global. It sounds like American politics to me. 

India has been having problems with this for years. I just made the decision as I updated and re-organized my site to place AdSense. It took me months to decide to finally do it. Now this. The only thing left to do is seek out other sources to offset this. Small publishers like me have fewer alternatives. Nevertheless, I do not believe it is hopeless, just another challenge. 

Its really ashame but no one here in the U.S. should be surprised I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U.S. considers the Internet to be theirs sharing it with the rest of the world. This may be about competition. Funny thing.</p>
<p> One of my posts was not crawled by Googlebot and came back an error. It was a post about China being the second largest online community in the world. Oddly enough that was the only post it appears,  that week that produced anything at all from AdSense for Content. It all sounds very fishy. </p>
<p>The Internet is a global community and however diverse opinions and beliefs are, it is still global. It sounds like American politics to me. </p>
<p>India has been having problems with this for years. I just made the decision as I updated and re-organized my site to place AdSense. It took me months to decide to finally do it. Now this. The only thing left to do is seek out other sources to offset this. Small publishers like me have fewer alternatives. Nevertheless, I do not believe it is hopeless, just another challenge. </p>
<p>Its really ashame but no one here in the U.S. should be surprised I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Anglictina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anglictina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is horrible, i lost more money with this ****** *** change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is horrible, i lost more money with this ****** *** change.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Lam</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-2675017</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Darren,

I understand your frustration and that is unfair what Google is doing. I completely agree that it&#039;s stupid how they could determine that they simply don&#039;t need referral help from specific regions/countries. After all this time, effort and new members you&#039;ve given to them, now they&#039;ve practically given you the boot. I mean, what&#039;s next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darren,</p>
<p>I understand your frustration and that is unfair what Google is doing. I completely agree that it&#8217;s stupid how they could determine that they simply don&#8217;t need referral help from specific regions/countries. After all this time, effort and new members you&#8217;ve given to them, now they&#8217;ve practically given you the boot. I mean, what&#8217;s next?</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest Goldberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest Goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I thought it was the WORLD WIDE WEB, same for me, same for you, same for all. I have the Australian largest online WebSite-  Directory.com.au never had much luck with AdSense referral, just upset about the new limitation and think it is very poor and unfair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I thought it was the WORLD WIDE WEB, same for me, same for you, same for all. I have the Australian largest online WebSite-  Directory.com.au never had much luck with AdSense referral, just upset about the new limitation and think it is very poor and unfair.</p>
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		<title>By: PCNews</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-2643144</link>
		<dc:creator>PCNews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CJ make similar move few months ago. referrals are no longer value for ads networks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ make similar move few months ago. referrals are no longer value for ads networks?</p>
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		<title>By: Lalit Nagrath</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-2637230</link>
		<dc:creator>Lalit Nagrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF
they even took referral money i got from a referral Signed up 4 months go 
this is not fair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF<br />
they even took referral money i got from a referral Signed up 4 months go<br />
this is not fair</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-2630792</link>
		<dc:creator>stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I would encourage people to WRITE Google and complain. Snail mail, not just email. Here is the address:

The Google AdSense Team
Google Inc.
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I would encourage people to WRITE Google and complain. Snail mail, not just email. Here is the address:</p>
<p>The Google AdSense Team<br />
Google Inc.<br />
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway<br />
Mountain View, CA 94043</p>
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		<title>By: jansegers</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-3/#comment-2630407</link>
		<dc:creator>jansegers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that they&#039;re risking a downward spiral.

It&#039;s a bit like Lego who&#039;s policy to sell fewer and fewer plastic for more and more money, almost caused the complete abolishment of the company.

Less referrals means less people engaged in the promulgation of Adsense.

Pieter Jansegers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that they&#8217;re risking a downward spiral.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit like Lego who&#8217;s policy to sell fewer and fewer plastic for more and more money, almost caused the complete abolishment of the company.</p>
<p>Less referrals means less people engaged in the promulgation of Adsense.</p>
<p>Pieter Jansegers</p>
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		<title>By: Ramdayal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramdayal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also very much disappointed with the decision taken by google adsense team, their other referal products are not as much convertive as adsense, in last 4 months I have got good clicks and signups, but now all that for no use. its very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also very much disappointed with the decision taken by google adsense team, their other referal products are not as much convertive as adsense, in last 4 months I have got good clicks and signups, but now all that for no use. its very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Chopper</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-2/#comment-2626911</link>
		<dc:creator>Chopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Problogger had sent more referrals to Google than probaly 1000 other publishers combined. I know I personally signed up through  Darren&#039;s link,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Problogger had sent more referrals to Google than probaly 1000 other publishers combined. I know I personally signed up through  Darren&#8217;s link,</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-2/#comment-2626311</link>
		<dc:creator>stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am astonished that Google was stupid enough to do this - they are the one company that I thought had some *sense* of the Internet community. Somebody there should have known this would upset people. For that reason ALONE it was a poor business decision.

I am upset because I have been earning a little extra on the $5 referrals. I never referred one publisher who got me the $100 bonus. But I&#039;ve gotten a lot of $5 bonuses. So now I won&#039;t get a measly $5 that isn&#039;t a lot to them but adds up for me.

This is pure greed on their part. I am already looking at alternatives and will be testing out other PPC companies on a few of my blogs...because to me companies that screw over affiliates like this deserve no loyalty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am astonished that Google was stupid enough to do this &#8211; they are the one company that I thought had some *sense* of the Internet community. Somebody there should have known this would upset people. For that reason ALONE it was a poor business decision.</p>
<p>I am upset because I have been earning a little extra on the $5 referrals. I never referred one publisher who got me the $100 bonus. But I&#8217;ve gotten a lot of $5 bonuses. So now I won&#8217;t get a measly $5 that isn&#8217;t a lot to them but adds up for me.</p>
<p>This is pure greed on their part. I am already looking at alternatives and will be testing out other PPC companies on a few of my blogs&#8230;because to me companies that screw over affiliates like this deserve no loyalty.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-2/#comment-2622730</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren,

I planned to write a similar comment to Bart - you can incorporate or form some other legal business entity in the US to get around this. Nevada or Delaware are likely the best states to do this in because of their respective tax laws. You should be able to do this for a couple hundred dollars.

Yes, I agree what Google has done is a slap in the face to you and others who have done a lot to advance Google&#039;s AdSense reach and ultimately pad their coffers.

But, now you have to ask yourself - do you continue to work with an affiliate that makes you a fairly substantial sum of money and takes up a very reasonable amount of real estate, or do you drop it completely?

I imagine you will continue to use AdSense on your other sites, so you will remain current on the AdSense environment. You will also offer a valuable service to many new bloggers (as you did me when I was starting out). You have the opportunity to adapt to this change in the AdSense environment. 

Yes, it will take a few hundred dollars and the time to fill out the paperwork to set up the business entity... but for someone with your reach, the reward is almost certainly worth it. Having an account in the US may make it easier to transfer funds funds from other sources to yourself in Australia, which is another benefit.

It is unfortunate for those who do not have this option. But I have a strong suspicion you can make this work well for you. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren,</p>
<p>I planned to write a similar comment to Bart &#8211; you can incorporate or form some other legal business entity in the US to get around this. Nevada or Delaware are likely the best states to do this in because of their respective tax laws. You should be able to do this for a couple hundred dollars.</p>
<p>Yes, I agree what Google has done is a slap in the face to you and others who have done a lot to advance Google&#8217;s AdSense reach and ultimately pad their coffers.</p>
<p>But, now you have to ask yourself &#8211; do you continue to work with an affiliate that makes you a fairly substantial sum of money and takes up a very reasonable amount of real estate, or do you drop it completely?</p>
<p>I imagine you will continue to use AdSense on your other sites, so you will remain current on the AdSense environment. You will also offer a valuable service to many new bloggers (as you did me when I was starting out). You have the opportunity to adapt to this change in the AdSense environment. </p>
<p>Yes, it will take a few hundred dollars and the time to fill out the paperwork to set up the business entity&#8230; but for someone with your reach, the reward is almost certainly worth it. Having an account in the US may make it easier to transfer funds funds from other sources to yourself in Australia, which is another benefit.</p>
<p>It is unfortunate for those who do not have this option. But I have a strong suspicion you can make this work well for you. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: roffi</title>
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		<dc:creator>roffi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this means that we have to leave google or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this means that we have to leave google or not?</p>
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		<title>By: InvestorBlogger</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/01/09/adsense-change-rules-stupidity-stupidity-stupidity/comment-page-2/#comment-2603290</link>
		<dc:creator>InvestorBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve already pulled the ads completely from my blog for obvious reasons. It will be difficult to persuade me to put them back...

Aiyo... Google what the heck are YOU doing?

Kenneth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve already pulled the ads completely from my blog for obvious reasons. It will be difficult to persuade me to put them back&#8230;</p>
<p>Aiyo&#8230; Google what the heck are YOU doing?</p>
<p>Kenneth</p>
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