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	<title>Comments on: How Not Throwing the Baby Out With the Bath Water Earned me Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars</title>
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		<title>By: Dimitri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimitri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 09:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Darren, your wisdom is a blessing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Darren, your wisdom is a blessing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dusakabin duskabinmarket</title>
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		<dc:creator>dusakabin duskabinmarket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for your work, all works deserves a thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for your work, all works deserves a thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the underlying lessons in this article, to me, is that it makes an insightful observation on the dynamics of the blogosphere as a whole. The customs of the blogosphere ( linking to competition, guest blogging on other blogs, advertising on competitors blogs) fosters symbiotic relationships between blogs that compete each other. This system is similar to the Japanese system of Keiretsu where businesses form tight relationships with each other for the purpose of mutual benefit. An example of how this dynamic works in the blogsophere is when bloggers try to sign up other bloggers as referrals for monetization programs.  This condition of co-dependence creates an environment where there is a high degree of uniformity of business strategies. Although beneficial, this is also somewhat paradoxal because the homogenization of business strategies minimizes the degree of differentiation - which is the key success factor in any business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the underlying lessons in this article, to me, is that it makes an insightful observation on the dynamics of the blogosphere as a whole. The customs of the blogosphere ( linking to competition, guest blogging on other blogs, advertising on competitors blogs) fosters symbiotic relationships between blogs that compete each other. This system is similar to the Japanese system of Keiretsu where businesses form tight relationships with each other for the purpose of mutual benefit. An example of how this dynamic works in the blogsophere is when bloggers try to sign up other bloggers as referrals for monetization programs.  This condition of co-dependence creates an environment where there is a high degree of uniformity of business strategies. Although beneficial, this is also somewhat paradoxal because the homogenization of business strategies minimizes the degree of differentiation &#8211; which is the key success factor in any business.</p>
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		<title>By: Kashif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kashif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was one of the earliest publishers at Chitika. Unfortunately they closed my account without proper communication and I have lost good amount due to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was one of the earliest publishers at Chitika. Unfortunately they closed my account without proper communication and I have lost good amount due to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, patients pays off opposed to getting caught up in the hype. It seems holding on to, or maintaining one&#039;s objectivity can be a challenge at times. I know that of all the stuff I see on the internet, a lot of it is hype. Unfettered belief would not be good. Cynicism would be the opposite response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, patients pays off opposed to getting caught up in the hype. It seems holding on to, or maintaining one&#8217;s objectivity can be a challenge at times. I know that of all the stuff I see on the internet, a lot of it is hype. Unfettered belief would not be good. Cynicism would be the opposite response.</p>
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		<title>By: Genesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have exactly one referral for BlogRush. It seems like a tool that has potential, even if the designers did jump the gun on the release. 

So far, my one little referral has grabbed me five times as many page views as I have on my own. To me, that is valuable. If just one person clicks through from those extra views, it was worth it. The widget isn´t an eyesore, like some, and I think it provides some extra value by showing relevant blog posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have exactly one referral for BlogRush. It seems like a tool that has potential, even if the designers did jump the gun on the release. </p>
<p>So far, my one little referral has grabbed me five times as many page views as I have on my own. To me, that is valuable. If just one person clicks through from those extra views, it was worth it. The widget isn´t an eyesore, like some, and I think it provides some extra value by showing relevant blog posts.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before BlogRush launched I thought &quot;hype, hype, this isn&#039;t going to be worth it&quot; nevertheless I put it on my to do list to sign up as soon as they opened it. I&#039;m trying it on a few of my network sites, not all of them just to put my foot in the water. So far I am thinking my initial assessment was correct, but I&#039;m going to wait for awhile just to be sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before BlogRush launched I thought &#8220;hype, hype, this isn&#8217;t going to be worth it&#8221; nevertheless I put it on my to do list to sign up as soon as they opened it. I&#8217;m trying it on a few of my network sites, not all of them just to put my foot in the water. So far I am thinking my initial assessment was correct, but I&#8217;m going to wait for awhile just to be sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Lambe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm Lambe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a funny thing isn&#039;t it? Chitika didn&#039;t work for me but Adsense does, sort of. The key is Traffic. As Markus Frind of Plentyoffish dating site says (paraphrased) &quot;if you have the traffic you can sell dogfood (from a dating site) and still make money&quot;. He gets 30 million pageviews a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a funny thing isn&#8217;t it? Chitika didn&#8217;t work for me but Adsense does, sort of. The key is Traffic. As Markus Frind of Plentyoffish dating site says (paraphrased) &#8220;if you have the traffic you can sell dogfood (from a dating site) and still make money&#8221;. He gets 30 million pageviews a day.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Krueger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usually I don&#039;t spend much time reading or writing blogs, because there is just not enough time in the day for that, when I try to concentrate on my busines. But I stumbled upon this here and had to read it all, because it&#039;s real good information and opinions. After some clicking here and there and reading other sites, I spent more than 2 hours and know much more now. These 2 hours I&#039;m short now with what I was actually planning to do for my business. I wonder, how you guys handle all this information overload. Shall I go to work now or look for a blog about managing information overload??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usually I don&#8217;t spend much time reading or writing blogs, because there is just not enough time in the day for that, when I try to concentrate on my busines. But I stumbled upon this here and had to read it all, because it&#8217;s real good information and opinions. After some clicking here and there and reading other sites, I spent more than 2 hours and know much more now. These 2 hours I&#8217;m short now with what I was actually planning to do for my business. I wonder, how you guys handle all this information overload. Shall I go to work now or look for a blog about managing information overload??</p>
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		<title>By: Max Powers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Powers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being new to this game all I know for sure about BlogRush is that they have the greatest installation instructions I&#039;ve ever encountered for a newbie like me. 

After that said, I decided the look and space it commanded was not for me. Thanks to you Darren and everyone&#039;s input for providing a great place to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being new to this game all I know for sure about BlogRush is that they have the greatest installation instructions I&#8217;ve ever encountered for a newbie like me. </p>
<p>After that said, I decided the look and space it commanded was not for me. Thanks to you Darren and everyone&#8217;s input for providing a great place to learn.</p>
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		<title>By: Trula</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/09/20/how-not-throwing-the-baby-out-with-the-bath-water-earned-me-hundreds-of-thousands-of-dollars/comment-page-1/#comment-1738375</link>
		<dc:creator>Trula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well for once I am right at the beginning of something new in blogging instead of the last to know so I&#039;m excited about BlogRush. It can&#039;t hurt to try it out and it showed immediate results. That&#039;s total coolness in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well for once I am right at the beginning of something new in blogging instead of the last to know so I&#8217;m excited about BlogRush. It can&#8217;t hurt to try it out and it showed immediate results. That&#8217;s total coolness in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Ryall</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/09/20/how-not-throwing-the-baby-out-with-the-bath-water-earned-me-hundreds-of-thousands-of-dollars/comment-page-1/#comment-1737686</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Ryall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all, firstly I have to give Chitika good praise, we only took on the Chitika product reasonably recently, and we have been most impressed, not only at the product itself which can be customised with simple CSS, but the service and focus of Chitika themselves.

Although we cannot give such good figures as Darren yet! we can report a solution that will make a respectable cash flow given the correct foundation.

I know for a fact that Chitika will turn into one of our best performers, how do I know this? Because of statistics.

The solution is sound and lends itself  to a few creative ways to extract it&#039;s potential. 
If you attack the Chitika product from the correct angle i.e. product driven resources with time and marketing Chitika is going to make you good money.

&lt;strong&gt;Bloggers Quick to Spam slow to think!&lt;/strong&gt;

How true we see the blogger waiting on the outskirts to see if it will be good.
&lt;strong&gt;The worst risk in life is the risk not taken!&lt;/strong&gt;

Risk takers may get burnt but over all they are winners, too often I see bloggers asking the big questions HOW DO I.

How do I is a great question, but the person who quietly goes away and reads, studies and generally gets educated about what they want to do is going to go well.

Everywhere on the net we see the words get in touch with your market and fellow bloggers, but it seems that most miss the words, even though how to blog is the biggest topic on the net almost.

Blogging to money is a business I cannot say it enough, I can not press home the fact more that you must have a plan. That plan must have partners, resources, marketing, opportunity, market base and vision for a few.

If you see opportunities come along that may go well, why not lean more on the Hmmm what if it does go OFF! 

Every day new resources and tools are launched some of them are going to be long stayers,  some are not. If you are too scared to try any, you will always be left on the fence.

My thoughts.

have a &lt;strong&gt;B L O G G I N G&lt;/strong&gt; good day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all, firstly I have to give Chitika good praise, we only took on the Chitika product reasonably recently, and we have been most impressed, not only at the product itself which can be customised with simple CSS, but the service and focus of Chitika themselves.</p>
<p>Although we cannot give such good figures as Darren yet! we can report a solution that will make a respectable cash flow given the correct foundation.</p>
<p>I know for a fact that Chitika will turn into one of our best performers, how do I know this? Because of statistics.</p>
<p>The solution is sound and lends itself  to a few creative ways to extract it&#8217;s potential.<br />
If you attack the Chitika product from the correct angle i.e. product driven resources with time and marketing Chitika is going to make you good money.</p>
<p><strong>Bloggers Quick to Spam slow to think!</strong></p>
<p>How true we see the blogger waiting on the outskirts to see if it will be good.<br />
<strong>The worst risk in life is the risk not taken!</strong></p>
<p>Risk takers may get burnt but over all they are winners, too often I see bloggers asking the big questions HOW DO I.</p>
<p>How do I is a great question, but the person who quietly goes away and reads, studies and generally gets educated about what they want to do is going to go well.</p>
<p>Everywhere on the net we see the words get in touch with your market and fellow bloggers, but it seems that most miss the words, even though how to blog is the biggest topic on the net almost.</p>
<p>Blogging to money is a business I cannot say it enough, I can not press home the fact more that you must have a plan. That plan must have partners, resources, marketing, opportunity, market base and vision for a few.</p>
<p>If you see opportunities come along that may go well, why not lean more on the Hmmm what if it does go OFF! </p>
<p>Every day new resources and tools are launched some of them are going to be long stayers,  some are not. If you are too scared to try any, you will always be left on the fence.</p>
<p>My thoughts.</p>
<p>have a <strong>B L O G G I N G</strong> good day!</p>
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		<title>By: Aruni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aruni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the tone of your post.  It is hard starting a company and just like toddlers they stumble from time to time.  They pick themselves up, learn, and become better because of those who chose to stick by them.  I&#039;ll have to check this Chitika out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the tone of your post.  It is hard starting a company and just like toddlers they stumble from time to time.  They pick themselves up, learn, and become better because of those who chose to stick by them.  I&#8217;ll have to check this Chitika out.</p>
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		<title>By: HowToWriteGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>HowToWriteGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re going to see a shift of responsibility too, with companies really playing it safe when they roll something out. Any slight mistake, anything that can be even remotely interpreted as fraud or irresponsible, is going to travel the web fast and bite someone in the ass.

And it&#039;s not even so much any company&#039;s fault (well, unless they&#039;re ruthless bastards!) as much as the blogosphere.

It&#039;s like that old drill we did in elementary school, where one person starts a message that goes around the room. Each student whispers it to the next and when it gets full circle, something&#039;s changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re going to see a shift of responsibility too, with companies really playing it safe when they roll something out. Any slight mistake, anything that can be even remotely interpreted as fraud or irresponsible, is going to travel the web fast and bite someone in the ass.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not even so much any company&#8217;s fault (well, unless they&#8217;re ruthless bastards!) as much as the blogosphere.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like that old drill we did in elementary school, where one person starts a message that goes around the room. Each student whispers it to the next and when it gets full circle, something&#8217;s changed.</p>
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		<title>By: revenue robot</title>
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		<dc:creator>revenue robot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice post... i like how it gets into detail about the ups and downs of having a blog and making money. I guess that&#039;s why it&#039;s always best to never keep all your eggs in one basket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice post&#8230; i like how it gets into detail about the ups and downs of having a blog and making money. I guess that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s always best to never keep all your eggs in one basket.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone on the comments on this post - I&#039;m about to go away for two days so will have to make this comment quick. Apologies that I won&#039;t be here for a couple of days to continue this discussion:

Zuggu - I&#039;m not sure that the top bloggers praised it as much as some are saying. Most of the initial announcements/reviews from what we might consider &#039;top&#039; bloggers were a little cautious and warned people to not expect the world. Most of the hype that I saw came from other smaller blogs.

geomark - not sure if you got the email from BlogRush today saying that they are aware of the fraud going on with the widget - looks like they are attempting to get that under control - it&#039;ll be in everyone&#039;s best interests when they do.

Rhys - you&#039;re right that people just want quick money. The problem with the hype around Chtiika was that some bloggers presented it as &#039;easy money&#039;. Unfortunately there&#039;s no such thing - you need to work hard to make money online via advertising - you need to work hard online to get readers (ie blogrush is just a tool that can help in the process - not the answer itself).

Fred - you&#039;re right, bigger bloggers will do better from referrals of BlogRush - but that&#039;s true for anything. What I like about BlogRush is that it helps blogs in proportion to where they are already at. If your blog does 100 visitors a day it will get that many headlines of it&#039;s latest posts - and no more. If a blog has 10,000 visitors a day it&#039;ll get 10,000 and no more. While this does mean that big blogs get more - it also means that small blogs get some and everything seems proportional. That might not seem fair on some levels - but on other levels I think it is (not sure if that came out right). I also think that while the numbers of visitors might not be massive that a small blog will notice them more than a big one. Here at ProBlogger 37 extra readers that it might bring in are not going to cause a noticeable increase in overall readers - but 37 extra readers on a brand new blog over a few days could be quite significant.

Blaine - John&#039;s email today to BlogRush publishers talked of refining categories which I think will help a bit. I&#039;ve talked privately to a number of BlogRush publishers who are getting over 1% click through on their headlines - some as many as 3-4%. From what I can tell this is partly to do with headlines - but also quite a bit to do with categories. Some categories are performing a lot better than others and John says they&#039;re working on this which hopefully will help.

James - you&#039;re right, my affiliate program with Chitika will do better than most bloggers not writing on the topic of blogging - but the ads themselves don&#039;t work here at ProBlogger. It&#039;s all about matching advertising and affiliate programs with an audience and finding what works on each blog. No single program will work on every blog - the same is true for Chitika, BlogRush, AdSense, Amazon Associates or anything else.

bob cobb - not on this blog. Chitika works on many product related blogs - but on a blog like this it doesn&#039;t.

Cigar Jack - I think you&#039;ll find that quite a few bloggers are similar to you. Chitika is my biggest or 2nd biggest earner too - depending on the month.

Andy Beard - not sure my head is level (some would say it&#039;s quite pointy) - but I guess I try to reserve judgement a little more these days than when I first started blogging. I used to jump on the pendulum swings as much as anyone - but soon realized it didn&#039;t really help anyone. The smart players quietly go about their business, trying new services to find what works and then going full on into those that do. 

Agree with you on the smaller blogs feeling the increase in traffic more than bigger ones. Great comments mate.

Hock - you&#039;re right in that some of the big players will see increases - however isn&#039;t any extra traffic on a small blog a good thing? If you can gain an extra visitor a day from it over a year and keep them as loyal readers then that&#039;s 365 extra daily readers at the end of the year. I know in my first year of blogging that that would have been amazing!

HMTKSteve - I make more money from using the ads than I have ever done with the affiliate program at Chitika.

Blogging Experiment - 

1. you&#039;re right, BR &#039;costs&#039; bloggers by giving up some realestate on their blog. 

2. I&#039;m not sure how much &#039;hype&#039; that BlogRush actually participated in. They did put together a good video that explained the potential of the service - however most of the hype and building of false expectations happened on blogs as far as I can see. I know when John Reece emailed me to let me know of BlogRush that his &#039;pitch&#039; was anything but hyped. It was a &#039;take it or leave it&#039; - &#039;this might work for you&#039; type pitch. In fact that&#039;s why I signed up to test it, because he didn&#039;t promise the world.

3. In terms of your hunch about BR - I&#039;d go with it. If you don&#039;t think it&#039;s working out for you then all you can do is stop using it. I guess all I&#039;m concerned about is that people rush from &#039;it&#039;s not working&#039; to write pretty inflammatory posts about it - when it&#039;s just a tool that people can opt into or out of to use.

Kevin - I don&#039;t see the problem with how most of the big bloggers encouraging people to check it out. The system has potential to bring in traffic - it&#039;s being launched by a respected person who has runs on the board in terms of helping people generate traffic to websites. My own approach in my initial post about it was to encourage people to try it out and see if it worked for them.


Thanks to everyone for the comments - hope the conversation can continue to be constructive and I look forward to reading more of your thoughts on this when I get back in a few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone on the comments on this post &#8211; I&#8217;m about to go away for two days so will have to make this comment quick. Apologies that I won&#8217;t be here for a couple of days to continue this discussion:</p>
<p>Zuggu &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure that the top bloggers praised it as much as some are saying. Most of the initial announcements/reviews from what we might consider &#8216;top&#8217; bloggers were a little cautious and warned people to not expect the world. Most of the hype that I saw came from other smaller blogs.</p>
<p>geomark &#8211; not sure if you got the email from BlogRush today saying that they are aware of the fraud going on with the widget &#8211; looks like they are attempting to get that under control &#8211; it&#8217;ll be in everyone&#8217;s best interests when they do.</p>
<p>Rhys &#8211; you&#8217;re right that people just want quick money. The problem with the hype around Chtiika was that some bloggers presented it as &#8216;easy money&#8217;. Unfortunately there&#8217;s no such thing &#8211; you need to work hard to make money online via advertising &#8211; you need to work hard online to get readers (ie blogrush is just a tool that can help in the process &#8211; not the answer itself).</p>
<p>Fred &#8211; you&#8217;re right, bigger bloggers will do better from referrals of BlogRush &#8211; but that&#8217;s true for anything. What I like about BlogRush is that it helps blogs in proportion to where they are already at. If your blog does 100 visitors a day it will get that many headlines of it&#8217;s latest posts &#8211; and no more. If a blog has 10,000 visitors a day it&#8217;ll get 10,000 and no more. While this does mean that big blogs get more &#8211; it also means that small blogs get some and everything seems proportional. That might not seem fair on some levels &#8211; but on other levels I think it is (not sure if that came out right). I also think that while the numbers of visitors might not be massive that a small blog will notice them more than a big one. Here at ProBlogger 37 extra readers that it might bring in are not going to cause a noticeable increase in overall readers &#8211; but 37 extra readers on a brand new blog over a few days could be quite significant.</p>
<p>Blaine &#8211; John&#8217;s email today to BlogRush publishers talked of refining categories which I think will help a bit. I&#8217;ve talked privately to a number of BlogRush publishers who are getting over 1% click through on their headlines &#8211; some as many as 3-4%. From what I can tell this is partly to do with headlines &#8211; but also quite a bit to do with categories. Some categories are performing a lot better than others and John says they&#8217;re working on this which hopefully will help.</p>
<p>James &#8211; you&#8217;re right, my affiliate program with Chitika will do better than most bloggers not writing on the topic of blogging &#8211; but the ads themselves don&#8217;t work here at ProBlogger. It&#8217;s all about matching advertising and affiliate programs with an audience and finding what works on each blog. No single program will work on every blog &#8211; the same is true for Chitika, BlogRush, AdSense, Amazon Associates or anything else.</p>
<p>bob cobb &#8211; not on this blog. Chitika works on many product related blogs &#8211; but on a blog like this it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Cigar Jack &#8211; I think you&#8217;ll find that quite a few bloggers are similar to you. Chitika is my biggest or 2nd biggest earner too &#8211; depending on the month.</p>
<p>Andy Beard &#8211; not sure my head is level (some would say it&#8217;s quite pointy) &#8211; but I guess I try to reserve judgement a little more these days than when I first started blogging. I used to jump on the pendulum swings as much as anyone &#8211; but soon realized it didn&#8217;t really help anyone. The smart players quietly go about their business, trying new services to find what works and then going full on into those that do. </p>
<p>Agree with you on the smaller blogs feeling the increase in traffic more than bigger ones. Great comments mate.</p>
<p>Hock &#8211; you&#8217;re right in that some of the big players will see increases &#8211; however isn&#8217;t any extra traffic on a small blog a good thing? If you can gain an extra visitor a day from it over a year and keep them as loyal readers then that&#8217;s 365 extra daily readers at the end of the year. I know in my first year of blogging that that would have been amazing!</p>
<p>HMTKSteve &#8211; I make more money from using the ads than I have ever done with the affiliate program at Chitika.</p>
<p>Blogging Experiment &#8211; </p>
<p>1. you&#8217;re right, BR &#8216;costs&#8217; bloggers by giving up some realestate on their blog. </p>
<p>2. I&#8217;m not sure how much &#8216;hype&#8217; that BlogRush actually participated in. They did put together a good video that explained the potential of the service &#8211; however most of the hype and building of false expectations happened on blogs as far as I can see. I know when John Reece emailed me to let me know of BlogRush that his &#8216;pitch&#8217; was anything but hyped. It was a &#8216;take it or leave it&#8217; &#8211; &#8216;this might work for you&#8217; type pitch. In fact that&#8217;s why I signed up to test it, because he didn&#8217;t promise the world.</p>
<p>3. In terms of your hunch about BR &#8211; I&#8217;d go with it. If you don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s working out for you then all you can do is stop using it. I guess all I&#8217;m concerned about is that people rush from &#8216;it&#8217;s not working&#8217; to write pretty inflammatory posts about it &#8211; when it&#8217;s just a tool that people can opt into or out of to use.</p>
<p>Kevin &#8211; I don&#8217;t see the problem with how most of the big bloggers encouraging people to check it out. The system has potential to bring in traffic &#8211; it&#8217;s being launched by a respected person who has runs on the board in terms of helping people generate traffic to websites. My own approach in my initial post about it was to encourage people to try it out and see if it worked for them.</p>
<p>Thanks to everyone for the comments &#8211; hope the conversation can continue to be constructive and I look forward to reading more of your thoughts on this when I get back in a few days.</p>
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		<description>George, I think it&#039;s indicative of a 70,000 to 35 impression to click ratio. Nothing more, nothing less.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I didn&#039;t realize people were already bad mouthing it. It&#039;s been out less than a week!

I figured it would take a while to see what&#039;s it true value was, that is why I planned on putting it up on my site for a at least a month. 

I wonder if the rush to criticize is indicative of the blogosphere or today&#039;s society in general?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I didn&#8217;t realize people were already bad mouthing it. It&#8217;s been out less than a week!</p>
<p>I figured it would take a while to see what&#8217;s it true value was, that is why I planned on putting it up on my site for a at least a month. </p>
<p>I wonder if the rush to criticize is indicative of the blogosphere or today&#8217;s society in general?</p>
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		<description>Bloody good headline Darren.   If that doesn&#039;t improve your clickthrough rates on Blogrush, I don&#039;t know what will.

I read your reviews on Chitika when I first began reading your blog, and I have to agree that you always made it clear that they wouldn&#039;t work for everyone.  They didn&#039;t work for me, but that is because of the type of sites I have.

I will be the first to confess that I&#039;m one of those who didn&#039;t want to try blogrush, and gave my reasons for not trying it.

Your views are usually balanced and honest so people take them seriously.  However, many other people who have reviewed Blogrush are those who would do anything to make money fast.  The reviews overpromise.  And we all know what happens when something overpromises and can&#039;t possibly deliver what it claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloody good headline Darren.   If that doesn&#8217;t improve your clickthrough rates on Blogrush, I don&#8217;t know what will.</p>
<p>I read your reviews on Chitika when I first began reading your blog, and I have to agree that you always made it clear that they wouldn&#8217;t work for everyone.  They didn&#8217;t work for me, but that is because of the type of sites I have.</p>
<p>I will be the first to confess that I&#8217;m one of those who didn&#8217;t want to try blogrush, and gave my reasons for not trying it.</p>
<p>Your views are usually balanced and honest so people take them seriously.  However, many other people who have reviewed Blogrush are those who would do anything to make money fast.  The reviews overpromise.  And we all know what happens when something overpromises and can&#8217;t possibly deliver what it claims.</p>
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		<description>I disagree with Tia, there has been no balance with this. I haven&#039;t seen a large blogger approach it without some sort of nudge towards their readers signing up and doing it. Since it is a total pyramid program the blogger wants to paint it in the best light so many people sign up under them 

So in the long run if it does take off they reap the benefits for a long time. 

People haven&#039;t looked at this program critically until after it launched and the stats became available. This setup was a failure from the start, look at the numerous traffic exchange sites that offer headline widgets that nobody clicks on. How is this any different, because they sold it differently to top level bloggers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with Tia, there has been no balance with this. I haven&#8217;t seen a large blogger approach it without some sort of nudge towards their readers signing up and doing it. Since it is a total pyramid program the blogger wants to paint it in the best light so many people sign up under them </p>
<p>So in the long run if it does take off they reap the benefits for a long time. </p>
<p>People haven&#8217;t looked at this program critically until after it launched and the stats became available. This setup was a failure from the start, look at the numerous traffic exchange sites that offer headline widgets that nobody clicks on. How is this any different, because they sold it differently to top level bloggers?</p>
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