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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1706166</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ronald B, he moved the site to a dedicated server. =)

Now is http://www.jaszdesigns.net

Btw, this logo rocks! Thumbs up  for that =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald B, he moved the site to a dedicated server. =)</p>
<p>Now is <a href="http://www.jaszdesigns.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.jaszdesigns.net</a></p>
<p>Btw, this logo rocks! Thumbs up  for that =)</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald B</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1694105</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronald B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this logo very much. You did a great job! I check websites on logo&#039;s very much so I do know what can be made...This http://forum-hattrick.com/jasz/ is my favorite. But the web has a lot more great designers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this logo very much. You did a great job! I check websites on logo&#8217;s very much so I do know what can be made&#8230;This <a href="http://forum-hattrick.com/jasz/" rel="nofollow">http://forum-hattrick.com/jasz/</a> is my favorite. But the web has a lot more great designers.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucia</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1631685</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 03:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the new design. I took me a week to get used to, but I like it. It&#039;s clean. It loads. It&#039;s readable It&#039;s easy to navigate. 

If others say the logo is unoriginal, well, maybe they know. But honestly, it looks original enough to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the new design. I took me a week to get used to, but I like it. It&#8217;s clean. It loads. It&#8217;s readable It&#8217;s easy to navigate. </p>
<p>If others say the logo is unoriginal, well, maybe they know. But honestly, it looks original enough to me.</p>
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		<title>By: ilker -=- The Thinking Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilker -=- The Thinking Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Ilya. This new logo and look is not &quot;Darren Rowse&quot; in my opinion. Especially the colors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ilya. This new logo and look is not &#8220;Darren Rowse&#8221; in my opinion. Especially the colors.</p>
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		<title>By: Truden</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1628948</link>
		<dc:creator>Truden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I already comment on MakaluMedia (the comment is awaiting moderation), the softest way to express my vision about your logo, Darren, is: &lt;strong&gt;poor idea implemented in acceptable way&lt;/strong&gt;.
I&#039;m sorry to say it, but the logo is &quot;accepted in acceptable way&quot; only because it is Darren&#039;s logo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I already comment on MakaluMedia (the comment is awaiting moderation), the softest way to express my vision about your logo, Darren, is: <strong>poor idea implemented in acceptable way</strong>.<br />
I&#8217;m sorry to say it, but the logo is &#8220;accepted in acceptable way&#8221; only because it is Darren&#8217;s logo.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1628264</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.rohdesign.com/weblog/img/photos/problogger-mini-v1.jpg

Now THAT is a sweet font in my opinion! Not sure it would work with your website though, but nevertheless. The logo came out really nice in my opinion, as did the design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.rohdesign.com/weblog/img/photos/problogger-mini-v1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.rohdesign.com/weblog/img/photos/problogger-mini-v1.jpg</a></p>
<p>Now THAT is a sweet font in my opinion! Not sure it would work with your website though, but nevertheless. The logo came out really nice in my opinion, as did the design.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1627418</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of weeks later and I still like the design. I always liked Rachel&#039;s design too, but it was time for a change.

Mike&#039;s logo is great and I notice it every time I visit. I know I&#039;m supposed to develop a sort of blindness too it, but it hasn&#039;t happened yet. I find myself looking at the logo a lot and trying to understand what it is that draws me to it. I think it&#039;s the simplicity.

I also like the contrast between the fonts for Pro and Blogger as well the color. The thin/thick contrast works well for me. And the P atom out front gives it an extra emphasis.

Mike&#039;s post is a good one as was Ben&#039;s. Anyone with an interest in design should read both to get a better understanding of the thought process that goes into any design work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of weeks later and I still like the design. I always liked Rachel&#8217;s design too, but it was time for a change.</p>
<p>Mike&#8217;s logo is great and I notice it every time I visit. I know I&#8217;m supposed to develop a sort of blindness too it, but it hasn&#8217;t happened yet. I find myself looking at the logo a lot and trying to understand what it is that draws me to it. I think it&#8217;s the simplicity.</p>
<p>I also like the contrast between the fonts for Pro and Blogger as well the color. The thin/thick contrast works well for me. And the P atom out front gives it an extra emphasis.</p>
<p>Mike&#8217;s post is a good one as was Ben&#8217;s. Anyone with an interest in design should read both to get a better understanding of the thought process that goes into any design work.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilya</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1627406</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Darren!

I think that your redesign was a good thing for you site. It looks different, it looks fresh. I find myself coming to the site more instead of just reading it in RSS. And your stats show that I&#039;m not the only one. 

Having said that, I find that your logo has a problem. 
I won&#039;t accuse the designer of plagiarism, but when I first saw it, I immediately recognized the old DAZ3d logo. The colors are the same, the font is the same, even the circle thing is the same. 

Well... not quite. It&#039;s all not exactly the same, but the similarity was enough to confuse the brands. 

Today in my RSS reader I&#039;ve seen the Ubuntu logo. Again, the same idea of circle with atoms. And again, I&#039;ve connected  it with ProBlogger in my mind.
 
Now, with the logo design process is explained, I think I know what the problem is. You, together with the designer have followed the usual chain of associations for the site like yours. The community, the circle, the &quot;atoms&quot;. It&#039;s been done before and I&#039;m sure it&#039;s been done a lot. 

It&#039;s unlikely that you will get into any plagiarism problems, but it sure doesn&#039;t help your branding. Your logo is plain ordinary. 

I hope you wouldn&#039;t get offended for this comment. I&#039;ve really liked the unique look of the previous ProBlogger design. I&#039;m a little bit sad it becomes less unique. It is actually my very first comment in any blog. I guess I have strong feelings for the new design. Which is also good, isn&#039;t it? :)

On a side note: it would be interesting to see, if your and John Chow&#039;s redesigns will start a chain of &quot;redesign wars&quot;. 
Many new bloggers are going to think that they must follow suite. They will start changing designs instead of developing their blogs with content and networking. Soon we might have a blogosphere full of ProBlogger design rip offs. 

You may want to write a post on when and how often a blogger should redesign. And that redesigns are not for everyone. 

Anyways, thanks for the great site, congratulations on your redesign and good luck to you, Darren.  

Ilya Stremovsky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Darren!</p>
<p>I think that your redesign was a good thing for you site. It looks different, it looks fresh. I find myself coming to the site more instead of just reading it in RSS. And your stats show that I&#8217;m not the only one. </p>
<p>Having said that, I find that your logo has a problem.<br />
I won&#8217;t accuse the designer of plagiarism, but when I first saw it, I immediately recognized the old DAZ3d logo. The colors are the same, the font is the same, even the circle thing is the same. </p>
<p>Well&#8230; not quite. It&#8217;s all not exactly the same, but the similarity was enough to confuse the brands. </p>
<p>Today in my RSS reader I&#8217;ve seen the Ubuntu logo. Again, the same idea of circle with atoms. And again, I&#8217;ve connected  it with ProBlogger in my mind.</p>
<p>Now, with the logo design process is explained, I think I know what the problem is. You, together with the designer have followed the usual chain of associations for the site like yours. The community, the circle, the &#8220;atoms&#8221;. It&#8217;s been done before and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s been done a lot. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s unlikely that you will get into any plagiarism problems, but it sure doesn&#8217;t help your branding. Your logo is plain ordinary. </p>
<p>I hope you wouldn&#8217;t get offended for this comment. I&#8217;ve really liked the unique look of the previous ProBlogger design. I&#8217;m a little bit sad it becomes less unique. It is actually my very first comment in any blog. I guess I have strong feelings for the new design. Which is also good, isn&#8217;t it? :)</p>
<p>On a side note: it would be interesting to see, if your and John Chow&#8217;s redesigns will start a chain of &#8220;redesign wars&#8221;.<br />
Many new bloggers are going to think that they must follow suite. They will start changing designs instead of developing their blogs with content and networking. Soon we might have a blogosphere full of ProBlogger design rip offs. </p>
<p>You may want to write a post on when and how often a blogger should redesign. And that redesigns are not for everyone. </p>
<p>Anyways, thanks for the great site, congratulations on your redesign and good luck to you, Darren.  </p>
<p>Ilya Stremovsky.</p>
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		<title>By: Satjaya</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1627168</link>
		<dc:creator>Satjaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This logo is perfect. When I first looked at it, the first thought  that flashed in my mind was &#039;community&#039; which absolutely suits your blog. And coming to the old design and logo - they are pathetic. This logo is quite professional and it&#039;ll make a long lasting impression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This logo is perfect. When I first looked at it, the first thought  that flashed in my mind was &#8216;community&#8217; which absolutely suits your blog. And coming to the old design and logo &#8211; they are pathetic. This logo is quite professional and it&#8217;ll make a long lasting impression.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Diaz</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1627094</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new logo and design are very nice. The logo is very clean, crisp, and professional. Everything about the new design is excellent. I didn&#039;t like the old design and I can&#039;t even remember what the old logo looked like. The whole makeover is definitely a job well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new logo and design are very nice. The logo is very clean, crisp, and professional. Everything about the new design is excellent. I didn&#8217;t like the old design and I can&#8217;t even remember what the old logo looked like. The whole makeover is definitely a job well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Gerbyshak</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1626864</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Gerbyshak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The logo is quietly becoming a favorite of mine, as I really like the circular design and the well pronounced P.

The design took some getting used to, but I now like it as well. It&#039;s much cleaner and less cluttered than the old one. 

On the downside, it&#039;s not as bright as the old one. I like bright orange colors. I also don&#039;t like not having your picture on the single post pages until you get all the way to the bottom, as I rarely get all the way to the bottom.

All in all, logo gets an A, re-design a B+. Way to partner with great designers Darren!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The logo is quietly becoming a favorite of mine, as I really like the circular design and the well pronounced P.</p>
<p>The design took some getting used to, but I now like it as well. It&#8217;s much cleaner and less cluttered than the old one. </p>
<p>On the downside, it&#8217;s not as bright as the old one. I like bright orange colors. I also don&#8217;t like not having your picture on the single post pages until you get all the way to the bottom, as I rarely get all the way to the bottom.</p>
<p>All in all, logo gets an A, re-design a B+. Way to partner with great designers Darren!</p>
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		<title>By: MTO</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1626798</link>
		<dc:creator>MTO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I didn&#039;t like too much the redesign as it seemed to have a look &quot;farther away from the rest of us mortals&quot;, the old design seemed to me as if it made you closer to us, a more personal (and yet pro) design. Now after some weeks, I just love it and changed my mind on it. :-)

The one thing I just cant get off of my mind, as I did comment when you first displayed it, is the fact that you decided to remove the slogan “Helping bloggers earn money”. I thought it was a great idea to have a short descriptive slogan next to the logo, clearly visible as soon as you enter the site. It helps new visitors see what your site is about with only 4 words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I didn&#8217;t like too much the redesign as it seemed to have a look &#8220;farther away from the rest of us mortals&#8221;, the old design seemed to me as if it made you closer to us, a more personal (and yet pro) design. Now after some weeks, I just love it and changed my mind on it. :-)</p>
<p>The one thing I just cant get off of my mind, as I did comment when you first displayed it, is the fact that you decided to remove the slogan “Helping bloggers earn money”. I thought it was a great idea to have a short descriptive slogan next to the logo, clearly visible as soon as you enter the site. It helps new visitors see what your site is about with only 4 words.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1626698</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the new Problogger design. It looks much more proffessional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the new Problogger design. It looks much more proffessional.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad V.</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1626630</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it looks great! I like it because it&#039;s simple. As the internet gets more and more cluttered, it&#039;s always refreshing to see a website that&#039;s well layed out, easy to navigate, with a simple but catchy logo! Your blog fits the bill quite nicely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it looks great! I like it because it&#8217;s simple. As the internet gets more and more cluttered, it&#8217;s always refreshing to see a website that&#8217;s well layed out, easy to navigate, with a simple but catchy logo! Your blog fits the bill quite nicely!</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1626536</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roberta - the old design was pretty trashed and I suspect not a lot of use to anyone without some serious reworking.

Glen - the actual redesign was paid for by b5 (although I guess that means partly by me as an owner of b5) and the logo was paid for by me. I paid for the job board redesign/re architecture.

thanks everyone for the feedback - keep it coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberta &#8211; the old design was pretty trashed and I suspect not a lot of use to anyone without some serious reworking.</p>
<p>Glen &#8211; the actual redesign was paid for by b5 (although I guess that means partly by me as an owner of b5) and the logo was paid for by me. I paid for the job board redesign/re architecture.</p>
<p>thanks everyone for the feedback &#8211; keep it coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Purkiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Purkiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice!!!
Thanks for the pointer - I am really trying to improve my image/logo design and that really helped!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice!!!<br />
Thanks for the pointer &#8211; I am really trying to improve my image/logo design and that really helped!</p>
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		<title>By: Million Dollar Homeboy</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1626110</link>
		<dc:creator>Million Dollar Homeboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the new logo. It&#039;s simple, elegant and direct.  The three colors and simple font make it easy to reproduce in any media which is always a plus. A well deserved handshake to all those involved with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the new logo. It&#8217;s simple, elegant and direct.  The three colors and simple font make it easy to reproduce in any media which is always a plus. A well deserved handshake to all those involved with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your current design and layout right now because it&#039;s clean and easy to navigate, but I am not sure about your logo.

It doesn&#039;t look too unique if you ask me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your current design and layout right now because it&#8217;s clean and easy to navigate, but I am not sure about your logo.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t look too unique if you ask me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Allsopp</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1626091</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen Allsopp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just out of interest darren (don&#039;t worry, I don&#039;t expect you to answer this), did you pay for the redesign or did b5?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of interest darren (don&#8217;t worry, I don&#8217;t expect you to answer this), did you pay for the redesign or did b5?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/08/28/the-problogger-logo-design-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1625988</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like the new design as well as the new layout, yes i miss the old yellow color scheme but this one just has a better overall feel to it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the new design as well as the new layout, yes i miss the old yellow color scheme but this one just has a better overall feel to it</p>
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