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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/07/10/page-views-are-they-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-2585474</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would agree with one of my friends here who said that sites with good content recieve fewer clicks. I have a good, informative travel blog myself and good page views with average time spent around 21 mins with over 8 page views per visitor on an average. Some have viewed over 25 pages and spent over 40 minutes (its from another country, so i know its not me). But i have hardly any clicks. That&#039;s what happens if your content is good and engaging. If you just have some crap, visitors click the ads just to get out of your site. And that is exactly how you make money out of adsense. i haven&#039;t tried it though. But from what I have seen, having about 8 - 10 blogs with three blocks of adsense in them and no content will get you the much needed clicks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would agree with one of my friends here who said that sites with good content recieve fewer clicks. I have a good, informative travel blog myself and good page views with average time spent around 21 mins with over 8 page views per visitor on an average. Some have viewed over 25 pages and spent over 40 minutes (its from another country, so i know its not me). But i have hardly any clicks. That&#8217;s what happens if your content is good and engaging. If you just have some crap, visitors click the ads just to get out of your site. And that is exactly how you make money out of adsense. i haven&#8217;t tried it though. But from what I have seen, having about 8 &#8211; 10 blogs with three blocks of adsense in them and no content will get you the much needed clicks</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, this is an encouraging post. I&#039;ve been writing quality content for about a month and a half on my blog.

My total page views are small (I&#039;m almost embarrassed to say) but I&#039;m working at making the content top quality. I&#039;m doing interviews with people who are knowledgable in their fields and can leave the reader with an important idea.

I have a small fan base but I can see I can get a core group of the same visitors back . . . now, I feel one or two really strong posts once a week or once every couple of weeks and those will get passed along . . . and my readership base will grow and strengthen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, this is an encouraging post. I&#8217;ve been writing quality content for about a month and a half on my blog.</p>
<p>My total page views are small (I&#8217;m almost embarrassed to say) but I&#8217;m working at making the content top quality. I&#8217;m doing interviews with people who are knowledgable in their fields and can leave the reader with an important idea.</p>
<p>I have a small fan base but I can see I can get a core group of the same visitors back . . . now, I feel one or two really strong posts once a week or once every couple of weeks and those will get passed along . . . and my readership base will grow and strengthen.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with my mates the bragging rights about who has a bigger readership has always come from unique visitors and the amount of time spent when they came. I think any intelligent advertiser should be asking for that metric. Unless the bouncing = converting. It would be great if their was a wordpress plug-in that showed average time spent by visitors. Does anyone know of one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with my mates the bragging rights about who has a bigger readership has always come from unique visitors and the amount of time spent when they came. I think any intelligent advertiser should be asking for that metric. Unless the bouncing = converting. It would be great if their was a wordpress plug-in that showed average time spent by visitors. Does anyone know of one?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what&#039;s really important in analytics is that no metric can really be looked at in isolation. Time spent can be valuable to know, but it doesn&#039;t account for the person who opens your page, gets a phone call, and when they get back to your page leave immediately. That person spent no time interacting with your site, but that&#039;s not what your analytics is going to tell you.

Similarly with Page Views. Did someone view a lot of pages on your site because they enjoyed the site so much they needed more or because they couldn&#039;t find what they were looking for?

Statistics are very useful, but you can prove anything you want with the same statistics if you look hard enough.

I think it&#039;s good that people are looking at time spent, but it still needs to be seen in conjunction with what your other metrics are showing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what&#8217;s really important in analytics is that no metric can really be looked at in isolation. Time spent can be valuable to know, but it doesn&#8217;t account for the person who opens your page, gets a phone call, and when they get back to your page leave immediately. That person spent no time interacting with your site, but that&#8217;s not what your analytics is going to tell you.</p>
<p>Similarly with Page Views. Did someone view a lot of pages on your site because they enjoyed the site so much they needed more or because they couldn&#8217;t find what they were looking for?</p>
<p>Statistics are very useful, but you can prove anything you want with the same statistics if you look hard enough.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s good that people are looking at time spent, but it still needs to be seen in conjunction with what your other metrics are showing.</p>
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		<title>By: Samir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree with Adam. He beat me to making the point about &lt;em&gt;tabbed browsing&lt;/em&gt; and &quot;dead&quot; time when browsing sites, and I would like to reiterate it. &lt;strong&gt;Most browsers will keep tabs open till they get to them. Even worse, there are those tabs that often remain open indefinitely.&lt;/strong&gt;

For example, when I start up my browser in the morning, I always check my email in my first tab, and open up the administrative areas of my blog and a couple of other sites I take care of in the others. Thrown into the mix might also be some other blogs and sites I like to keep track of on a daily basis. Now my browsing session usually involves me clicking on a mail in my inbox and then switching to another tab, this switching between tabs happens everytime I load a new page, because this way I am doing something else while all that loading is happening, and I find I use the time more efficiently this way.

As a result, &lt;strong&gt;my mail window might be open for 30 minutes to an hour&lt;/strong&gt;. And a similar situation can arrise whenever I am going through a whole list of things on a site -- like a forum, for example. This means &lt;strong&gt;my actual eye-ball time on the site would be something like 5 minutes while it would technically show that I had stayed on for 50 minutes&lt;/strong&gt;. That is quite a large  discrepancy.

What it comes down to is that &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;time spent on a site&lt;/em&gt; is as fallible a measure of site popularity as &lt;em&gt;page views&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. In fact you could even claim that &lt;em&gt;page views&lt;/em&gt; is a more real measure in the sense that it measures an actually measurable quantity, i.e. - how many times a page was accessed on the server. Unless someone uses blatant and deliberate spoofing techniques such as scripted robots to hit a site, &lt;em&gt;page views&lt;/em&gt; are a real measure of how many people arrived at a page. On the other hand there are many situations when &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;time spent on a site&lt;/em&gt; can be the untruth even without any planned deceit&lt;/strong&gt;. What happens if I keep a site on while I answer the door or go to the kitchen to make myself a cup of coffee?

Sure in a completely controlled environment where the viewer is almost a test subject in a lab (which might be the case for services such as Neilsen specifically), these sort of specific abnormalities and gaps in time measurements can be factored in and actually not measured, using advanced instruments or systems. But, when you&#039;re talking of standard metrics methods involving a little code inserted into your site or server software, &lt;strong&gt;there is no way to measure &lt;em&gt;time spent on a site&lt;/em&gt; accurately without drastic breeches of privacy for the user&lt;/strong&gt;.

For that reason alone, I would say &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;page views&lt;/em&gt; are not going anywhere&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree with Adam. He beat me to making the point about <em>tabbed browsing</em> and &#8220;dead&#8221; time when browsing sites, and I would like to reiterate it. <strong>Most browsers will keep tabs open till they get to them. Even worse, there are those tabs that often remain open indefinitely.</strong></p>
<p>For example, when I start up my browser in the morning, I always check my email in my first tab, and open up the administrative areas of my blog and a couple of other sites I take care of in the others. Thrown into the mix might also be some other blogs and sites I like to keep track of on a daily basis. Now my browsing session usually involves me clicking on a mail in my inbox and then switching to another tab, this switching between tabs happens everytime I load a new page, because this way I am doing something else while all that loading is happening, and I find I use the time more efficiently this way.</p>
<p>As a result, <strong>my mail window might be open for 30 minutes to an hour</strong>. And a similar situation can arrise whenever I am going through a whole list of things on a site &#8212; like a forum, for example. This means <strong>my actual eye-ball time on the site would be something like 5 minutes while it would technically show that I had stayed on for 50 minutes</strong>. That is quite a large  discrepancy.</p>
<p>What it comes down to is that <strong><em>time spent on a site</em> is as fallible a measure of site popularity as <em>page views</em></strong>. In fact you could even claim that <em>page views</em> is a more real measure in the sense that it measures an actually measurable quantity, i.e. &#8211; how many times a page was accessed on the server. Unless someone uses blatant and deliberate spoofing techniques such as scripted robots to hit a site, <em>page views</em> are a real measure of how many people arrived at a page. On the other hand there are many situations when <strong><em>time spent on a site</em> can be the untruth even without any planned deceit</strong>. What happens if I keep a site on while I answer the door or go to the kitchen to make myself a cup of coffee?</p>
<p>Sure in a completely controlled environment where the viewer is almost a test subject in a lab (which might be the case for services such as Neilsen specifically), these sort of specific abnormalities and gaps in time measurements can be factored in and actually not measured, using advanced instruments or systems. But, when you&#8217;re talking of standard metrics methods involving a little code inserted into your site or server software, <strong>there is no way to measure <em>time spent on a site</em> accurately without drastic breeches of privacy for the user</strong>.</p>
<p>For that reason alone, I would say <strong><em>page views</em> are not going anywhere</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: PB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, page views are a point of departure.  I use them to see if they landed on my blog, how they arrived at my blog, and then look to see how much time they spent there.

Some of the search parameters they use through Google, only bring my page up because I used a specific phrase in my post, and I am surprised they still clicked on the site.  However, they don&#039;t stay long.  

I&#039;m very happy if they convert that first initial visit to a long term one where they keep coming back.  That return visit number is growing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, page views are a point of departure.  I use them to see if they landed on my blog, how they arrived at my blog, and then look to see how much time they spent there.</p>
<p>Some of the search parameters they use through Google, only bring my page up because I used a specific phrase in my post, and I am surprised they still clicked on the site.  However, they don&#8217;t stay long.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m very happy if they convert that first initial visit to a long term one where they keep coming back.  That return visit number is growing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Snider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Snider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Time spent on site is a useless measurement unless you know how many people were there spending that time.&quot;

I (partially) agree with this comment. Until we know what people are doing during the time spent on a site, it&#039;s hard to determine how valuable this metric is. I wouldn&#039;t go so far as to say that it&#039;s a useless metric, but I know that I&#039;ll often open several pages in individual tabs, and then close those tabs as I read them.

If it takes me 10 or 15 minutes to finally get to the last tab I have open in my browser, it&#039;s going to appear as though I spent a lot of time on that page, when, in fact, it&#039;s entirely possible that I only spent 30 seconds actually viewing the page.

Like any other metric, it must be combined with others to provide real value. When looked at in isolation, &quot;time spent on page&quot; is no more useful than &quot;number of page views&quot; is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Time spent on site is a useless measurement unless you know how many people were there spending that time.&#8221;</p>
<p>I (partially) agree with this comment. Until we know what people are doing during the time spent on a site, it&#8217;s hard to determine how valuable this metric is. I wouldn&#8217;t go so far as to say that it&#8217;s a useless metric, but I know that I&#8217;ll often open several pages in individual tabs, and then close those tabs as I read them.</p>
<p>If it takes me 10 or 15 minutes to finally get to the last tab I have open in my browser, it&#8217;s going to appear as though I spent a lot of time on that page, when, in fact, it&#8217;s entirely possible that I only spent 30 seconds actually viewing the page.</p>
<p>Like any other metric, it must be combined with others to provide real value. When looked at in isolation, &#8220;time spent on page&#8221; is no more useful than &#8220;number of page views&#8221; is.</p>
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		<title>By: Thilak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thilak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both the metrics have their own importance, but like Trent said... I count more on Del.icio.us and other social link backs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both the metrics have their own importance, but like Trent said&#8230; I count more on Del.icio.us and other social link backs</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Schwager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Schwager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hardly pay attention to my pageviews anymore. I tend to focus much more on the amount of visitors my blog receives. The only time I give pageviews much attention is when I want to see the average amount of pages each visitor views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hardly pay attention to my pageviews anymore. I tend to focus much more on the amount of visitors my blog receives. The only time I give pageviews much attention is when I want to see the average amount of pages each visitor views.</p>
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		<title>By: fivecentnickel.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>fivecentnickel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still a big fan of unique visitors. This gives you a better feel for your &#039;reach&#039; in terms of the number of different sets of eyeballs that are looking at your stuff. From a monetization perspective, visitors that just hit a single page are often quite profitable... They come in from a search engine, find what they want, and then act on it (click an ad, follow an affiliate link, etc.). Of course, such visitors aren&#039;t as available for CPM programs, but I don&#039;t care as much about that as I earn far less from CPM programs than from other sorts of revenue streams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still a big fan of unique visitors. This gives you a better feel for your &#8216;reach&#8217; in terms of the number of different sets of eyeballs that are looking at your stuff. From a monetization perspective, visitors that just hit a single page are often quite profitable&#8230; They come in from a search engine, find what they want, and then act on it (click an ad, follow an affiliate link, etc.). Of course, such visitors aren&#8217;t as available for CPM programs, but I don&#8217;t care as much about that as I earn far less from CPM programs than from other sorts of revenue streams.</p>
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		<title>By: StartBreakingFree.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>StartBreakingFree.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren,

Would love to see what kind of numbers you have for time spent on site and bounce rate.  I&#039;m currently at 2:59 and 63%, but its always good to see what I should be striving for.  Thanks!
Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren,</p>
<p>Would love to see what kind of numbers you have for time spent on site and bounce rate.  I&#8217;m currently at 2:59 and 63%, but its always good to see what I should be striving for.  Thanks!<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting that Nielson is changing its ratings, but for most bloggers (or any websites) this is just another distraction?
You&#039;d better be tracking what matters to your site&#039;s goals. If you sell impression based ads, then don&#039;t use ajax on your site. If you sell a product then, you will go broke with 10,000 visitors a day who all spend an hour each on your site, but none of them buy your widget.
If you make money from AdSense, then clicks is your metric, and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that Nielson is changing its ratings, but for most bloggers (or any websites) this is just another distraction?<br />
You&#8217;d better be tracking what matters to your site&#8217;s goals. If you sell impression based ads, then don&#8217;t use ajax on your site. If you sell a product then, you will go broke with 10,000 visitors a day who all spend an hour each on your site, but none of them buy your widget.<br />
If you make money from AdSense, then clicks is your metric, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: Bush Mackel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bush Mackel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Suzanne. I think it depends on the type of site. If my blog is successful and ppl keep up with it, I gotta think that my pageviews are going to be low as visitors will probably only visit 2 pages if that. On content sites however, I should expect things to be a bit as users will have to go through many pages to get the full story on a certain topic.

So for me, it depends on the kind of site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Suzanne. I think it depends on the type of site. If my blog is successful and ppl keep up with it, I gotta think that my pageviews are going to be low as visitors will probably only visit 2 pages if that. On content sites however, I should expect things to be a bit as users will have to go through many pages to get the full story on a certain topic.</p>
<p>So for me, it depends on the kind of site.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I keep up with a blog then I don&#039;t need to look at other pages on the site.  And if the post is short then I&#039;m not going to spend any more time there than to read the post.  

If they are going to be looking at time in seconds then this might be effective -- someone spending two seconds at a site is probably barely reading the title, let alone the post. 

Otherwise I think this could penalize popular blogs where the posts are short and readers are familiar with the material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I keep up with a blog then I don&#8217;t need to look at other pages on the site.  And if the post is short then I&#8217;m not going to spend any more time there than to read the post.  </p>
<p>If they are going to be looking at time in seconds then this might be effective &#8212; someone spending two seconds at a site is probably barely reading the title, let alone the post. </p>
<p>Otherwise I think this could penalize popular blogs where the posts are short and readers are familiar with the material.</p>
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		<title>By: cmanlong</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmanlong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there really needs to be a combination of both. I know that the way I track many of the sites I read is through my rss reader. When a title or topic catches my eye I click, read, and then usually I&#039;m done. I don&#039;t surf any deeper and since I read fairly quickly don&#039;t spend much time. I have found looking at my metrics that traffic from my rss subscribers tends more toward this than does referall traffic, or search traffic.

In fact today I read this article after clicking the rss link and then left. Later I decided, after thinking about what I had just done in relation to what I have noticed on my own site, to return and post this comment. 

While I agree that I do tend to look at time spent, and bounce rate, I also look at page views as it relates to new unique visitors, and return visitors. I don&#039;t think you could base a rating solely on time spent and totally ignoring pageviews.

later all and have a profitable productive blogging day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there really needs to be a combination of both. I know that the way I track many of the sites I read is through my rss reader. When a title or topic catches my eye I click, read, and then usually I&#8217;m done. I don&#8217;t surf any deeper and since I read fairly quickly don&#8217;t spend much time. I have found looking at my metrics that traffic from my rss subscribers tends more toward this than does referall traffic, or search traffic.</p>
<p>In fact today I read this article after clicking the rss link and then left. Later I decided, after thinking about what I had just done in relation to what I have noticed on my own site, to return and post this comment. </p>
<p>While I agree that I do tend to look at time spent, and bounce rate, I also look at page views as it relates to new unique visitors, and return visitors. I don&#8217;t think you could base a rating solely on time spent and totally ignoring pageviews.</p>
<p>later all and have a profitable productive blogging day</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/07/10/page-views-are-they-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-1420573</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Page Views are still important, but perhaps their importance is starting to fade slightly.  Time spent on site may be a more accurate judge of the blogs quality but not how much advertising revenue can be generated.  I.e it could be aruged that a blog with fantastic content will have a lower adsense click through rate than a low quality blog, because the readers are interested in the content and not looking for another site to go to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Page Views are still important, but perhaps their importance is starting to fade slightly.  Time spent on site may be a more accurate judge of the blogs quality but not how much advertising revenue can be generated.  I.e it could be aruged that a blog with fantastic content will have a lower adsense click through rate than a low quality blog, because the readers are interested in the content and not looking for another site to go to.</p>
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		<title>By: TextAdSearch</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/07/10/page-views-are-they-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-1420558</link>
		<dc:creator>TextAdSearch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see the internet turning into TV. Time spent on a site should only be part of a sites measurement of success.

Quality of traffic is king over quantity. But what if I put hypno-toad on my front page and visitors are hooked for hours at a time, will my site shoot up the rankings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see the internet turning into TV. Time spent on a site should only be part of a sites measurement of success.</p>
<p>Quality of traffic is king over quantity. But what if I put hypno-toad on my front page and visitors are hooked for hours at a time, will my site shoot up the rankings?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve's Tech Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/07/10/page-views-are-they-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-1420555</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve's Tech Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look at where they come from and the page views from that source in Google Analytics. So, if they come for a HD format war post, I &#039;m sure they look at other post related to it. I rarely look at the overall page views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look at where they come from and the page views from that source in Google Analytics. So, if they come for a HD format war post, I &#8216;m sure they look at other post related to it. I rarely look at the overall page views.</p>
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		<title>By: Vijay Teach Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vijay Teach Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will break my analysis in two areas the visitors arriving and visitors leaving.

I) Visitors arriving: Where they arrived from, where they clicked on my site and how long the stayed.
2) Visitors Leaving: Bounce rate is the key and exit page.

Vijay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will break my analysis in two areas the visitors arriving and visitors leaving.</p>
<p>I) Visitors arriving: Where they arrived from, where they clicked on my site and how long the stayed.<br />
2) Visitors Leaving: Bounce rate is the key and exit page.</p>
<p>Vijay</p>
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		<title>By: Rhys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with &quot;Time Spent Online&quot; is that it needs to be applied VERY carefully. For example, the average for today on my blog is 3:35. However, this includes 21 referrals of 0:00 (i.e. bots/crawlers). If I took away those 21 from the 250 I recieved yesterday, my average time would probably be much higher (had 21 visitors who viewed on average 7:51, and  35 visitors who viewed on average 4:20). So to do a &quot;time spent online&quot;, selling to begin with, could be unfair to the publisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with &#8220;Time Spent Online&#8221; is that it needs to be applied VERY carefully. For example, the average for today on my blog is 3:35. However, this includes 21 referrals of 0:00 (i.e. bots/crawlers). If I took away those 21 from the 250 I recieved yesterday, my average time would probably be much higher (had 21 visitors who viewed on average 7:51, and  35 visitors who viewed on average 4:20). So to do a &#8220;time spent online&#8221;, selling to begin with, could be unfair to the publisher.</p>
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