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		<title>By: Individual business blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Making Money from Your Cell Phone: Blogs that Earn Directly vs. Indirectly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Individual business blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Making Money from Your Cell Phone: Blogs that Earn Directly vs. Indirectly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 09:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is responding to a post by ProBlogger?#8217;s Chris Garrett this morning. Chris argues that in addition to direct methods like advertising, professional bloggers can monetize their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matt's Daily Diigo Post 04/28/2007 &#171; Matt&#8217;s Cuppa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt's Daily Diigo Post 04/28/2007 &#171; Matt&#8217;s Cuppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 05:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Attack: Set up a healthy, usable workspace - LifehackerFinding Advertisers for Your BlogWhat Bloggers Can Learn From… Indirect EarnersArticle Distribution Service - iSnare.com Free Reprint ArticlesBean Counter So, you want to learn [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Attack: Set up a healthy, usable workspace &#8211; LifehackerFinding Advertisers for Your BlogWhat Bloggers Can Learn From… Indirect EarnersArticle Distribution Service &#8211; iSnare.com Free Reprint ArticlesBean Counter So, you want to learn [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anastasia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d disagree with affiliates. I, recently joined an affiliate program, and there were a tremendous amount of outclicks to the affiliate I chose, but no sales reports. And it&#039;s easy for an online retailer to omit this information, or alter the sale stats on their end. I removed the affiliate.

I do get a lot of proposals via email, and they often propose their affiliate programs, and I respond back stating my requirements: sponsored advertising. I pay for my site, whereas they earn direct cash from the sales. At the end of the day they&#039;re approaching a blogger, and if a blogger pays to host their blog, it&#039;s not too much to request a fee in return for advertising space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d disagree with affiliates. I, recently joined an affiliate program, and there were a tremendous amount of outclicks to the affiliate I chose, but no sales reports. And it&#8217;s easy for an online retailer to omit this information, or alter the sale stats on their end. I removed the affiliate.</p>
<p>I do get a lot of proposals via email, and they often propose their affiliate programs, and I respond back stating my requirements: sponsored advertising. I pay for my site, whereas they earn direct cash from the sales. At the end of the day they&#8217;re approaching a blogger, and if a blogger pays to host their blog, it&#8217;s not too much to request a fee in return for advertising space.</p>
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		<title>By: This Week In SEO - 4/13/07 - TheVanBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Week In SEO - 4/13/07 - TheVanBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Christy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just this week I&#039;ve begun to hear about &quot;blog flipping.&quot; I have to find out more about this, it sounds pretty cool. Maybe they&#039;ll make a T.V. show called &quot;Flip This Blog.&quot; Reality blogging at its best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just this week I&#8217;ve begun to hear about &#8220;blog flipping.&#8221; I have to find out more about this, it sounds pretty cool. Maybe they&#8217;ll make a T.V. show called &#8220;Flip This Blog.&#8221; Reality blogging at its best!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Forde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Forde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had great success at using the blog to promote the monthly breakfast seminars that I hold which also helps to bring the community together on &amp; offline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had great success at using the blog to promote the monthly breakfast seminars that I hold which also helps to bring the community together on &amp; offline.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilse's Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilse's Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blogging and money making...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m looking for ideas to make money with my blog, while staying truth to myself and my blog. I use my blog as my personal diary and I see money making with my blog as a fun thing, but something that&#039;s not absolutely necessary! Have Fun with the tips ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Blogging and money making&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking for ideas to make money with my blog, while staying truth to myself and my blog. I use my blog as my personal diary and I see money making with my blog as a fun thing, but something that&#8217;s not absolutely necessary! Have Fun with the tips &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Wibbels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Wibbels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extra-crispy thanks to Sharon for adding me to the list.

I will say that the past 3 years of my business have been from my blog. I used a blog to road-test and create content that was then run in teleseminar format and then moved into an ebook and then sold to a publisher as a book (and then featured in major media, yadda). Of course I&#039;d be remiss in not mentioning my delight in working witih Darren on Six Figure Blogging. All consulting gigs and customers have come from the combination of my blog, newsletter and feed working together. I think for folks that aren&#039;t making blogging their occupation there are so many avenues for it to still feed their business and platform.

I think a crucial ingredient is style/voice - you have to break through the noise. 

So many business bloggers have this milquetoast pusillanimous pantywaist mealy-mouth soggy attitude of non-offense or passion-zero in their blog. Whether break out by being passionate or provocative you have to break through the white noise of your competition and all the other &#039;spheres out there. If you are trying to please everybody then you are marketing to nobody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extra-crispy thanks to Sharon for adding me to the list.</p>
<p>I will say that the past 3 years of my business have been from my blog. I used a blog to road-test and create content that was then run in teleseminar format and then moved into an ebook and then sold to a publisher as a book (and then featured in major media, yadda). Of course I&#8217;d be remiss in not mentioning my delight in working witih Darren on Six Figure Blogging. All consulting gigs and customers have come from the combination of my blog, newsletter and feed working together. I think for folks that aren&#8217;t making blogging their occupation there are so many avenues for it to still feed their business and platform.</p>
<p>I think a crucial ingredient is style/voice &#8211; you have to break through the noise. </p>
<p>So many business bloggers have this milquetoast pusillanimous pantywaist mealy-mouth soggy attitude of non-offense or passion-zero in their blog. Whether break out by being passionate or provocative you have to break through the white noise of your competition and all the other &#8217;spheres out there. If you are trying to please everybody then you are marketing to nobody.</p>
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		<title>By: Future Posting, or About My Latest Blogging Mistake : Chris Garrett on New Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Future Posting, or About My Latest Blogging Mistake : Chris Garrett on New Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is what Darren and Brian did with my guest posts. So to answer those who asked, no I didn&#8217;t post on their blogs while I was away, I had emailed them beforehand. Yes that is right, I wrote posts for others so they would have content while they were away but didn&#8217;t do the same thing on my own blog, d&#8217;oh! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is what Darren and Brian did with my guest posts. So to answer those who asked, no I didn&#8217;t post on their blogs while I was away, I had emailed them beforehand. Yes that is right, I wrote posts for others so they would have content while they were away but didn&#8217;t do the same thing on my own blog, d&#8217;oh! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ilker</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Techdeals: Visit John Chow&#039;s blog.. he uses ReviewMe all the time and earns a lot from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Techdeals: Visit John Chow&#8217;s blog.. he uses ReviewMe all the time and earns a lot from it.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think blogging can work well as a business when you blog about something you are passionate about, with information that interests (or better yet is valuable to your readers). 

It then becomes easy to, as starleads put it, become &quot;good at it , you get noticed and money always follows&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think blogging can work well as a business when you blog about something you are passionate about, with information that interests (or better yet is valuable to your readers). </p>
<p>It then becomes easy to, as starleads put it, become &#8220;good at it , you get noticed and money always follows&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Sarmiento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon Sarmiento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool post, Chris.  I love it that nowadays, because of blogging, people can basically invent a job around what their skills and passions are. David Krug stands out as a person who is particularly gifted at doing this, as you pointed out.

And I&#039;d like to add Andy Wibbels to the list. Last year I think it was, he was approached by a major publishing house asking him to write a book about blogging for small biz owners. The book is called &quot;Blogwild&quot; and has been a huge success for Andy. The offer for the book deal came after the publishers looked at his blog and his blogging course, Easy Bake Weblogs. So, definitely Andy&#039;s blog played a huge part in him becoming an author. And because of his successful book, his classes (he teaches blogging, podcasting and related stuff to small biz owners), his classes are even more in demand.

He now has oodles of major mainstream media appears, and is contacted all the time by any journalist wanting an opinion about blogging or internet related stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool post, Chris.  I love it that nowadays, because of blogging, people can basically invent a job around what their skills and passions are. David Krug stands out as a person who is particularly gifted at doing this, as you pointed out.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d like to add Andy Wibbels to the list. Last year I think it was, he was approached by a major publishing house asking him to write a book about blogging for small biz owners. The book is called &#8220;Blogwild&#8221; and has been a huge success for Andy. The offer for the book deal came after the publishers looked at his blog and his blogging course, Easy Bake Weblogs. So, definitely Andy&#8217;s blog played a huge part in him becoming an author. And because of his successful book, his classes (he teaches blogging, podcasting and related stuff to small biz owners), his classes are even more in demand.</p>
<p>He now has oodles of major mainstream media appears, and is contacted all the time by any journalist wanting an opinion about blogging or internet related stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl W.T. Lau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl W.T. Lau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... buying and selling blogs.. that indeed is an interesting concept. Perhaps you can elaborate on it further in future post Darren. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; buying and selling blogs.. that indeed is an interesting concept. Perhaps you can elaborate on it further in future post Darren. :)</p>
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		<title>By: starleads</title>
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		<dc:creator>starleads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 07:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few good reasons for blogging. Direct or indirect , I guess once you are good at it , you get noticed and money always follows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few good reasons for blogging. Direct or indirect , I guess once you are good at it , you get noticed and money always follows.</p>
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		<title>By: IntelliGenius</title>
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		<dc:creator>IntelliGenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about yourself Darren? You earn indirect incomes from blog(s) as well right? Lets list at least some of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about yourself Darren? You earn indirect incomes from blog(s) as well right? Lets list at least some of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Around the Net 4/9/2007 &#124; knupNET</title>
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		<dc:creator>Around the Net 4/9/2007 &#124; knupNET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Techdeals</title>
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		<dc:creator>Techdeals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely never heard of ReviewMe up until now.  Has anyone used their service to get their site reviewed?  The whole seems a little fishy to me (and possibly low ROI).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely never heard of ReviewMe up until now.  Has anyone used their service to get their site reviewed?  The whole seems a little fishy to me (and possibly low ROI).</p>
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		<title>By: eve</title>
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		<dc:creator>eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post as usual! You showed me some ideas I had not thought of before, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post as usual! You showed me some ideas I had not thought of before, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Don M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Chris. 

I have been approached by a publisher about rolling the past year of songwriting articles into a book. I have already constructed an outline for the book and have identified gaps I need to cover. These are my blog entries for the next month or so.

It&#039;s very preliminary, but I&#039;m excited about the possibilities nonetheless - especially for cross promotion and a built-in audience of 800-1000 unique readers daily.

-dm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Chris. </p>
<p>I have been approached by a publisher about rolling the past year of songwriting articles into a book. I have already constructed an outline for the book and have identified gaps I need to cover. These are my blog entries for the next month or so.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very preliminary, but I&#8217;m excited about the possibilities nonetheless &#8211; especially for cross promotion and a built-in audience of 800-1000 unique readers daily.</p>
<p>-dm</p>
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		<title>By: ilker</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My blog earns me extra freelance graphic design projects even though I don&#039;t advertise my services.. maybe I should but I don&#039;t know how to do it without bugging my readers. Help Darren, please!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My blog earns me extra freelance graphic design projects even though I don&#8217;t advertise my services.. maybe I should but I don&#8217;t know how to do it without bugging my readers. Help Darren, please!?</p>
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