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		<title>By: Orange County Advertising Agency</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-3885980</link>
		<dc:creator>Orange County Advertising Agency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nearly everyone here is linking back to their own site. Nothing wrong with a little bit of cross promotion. People post a comment, it helps keep the page fresh and higher up in the serps for the writer/website. In return you offer a link back if wanted. That said, just posting tons of links as comments is annoying and not helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly everyone here is linking back to their own site. Nothing wrong with a little bit of cross promotion. People post a comment, it helps keep the page fresh and higher up in the serps for the writer/website. In return you offer a link back if wanted. That said, just posting tons of links as comments is annoying and not helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah in Los Angeles</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-1257664</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah in Los Angeles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if anyone could find out more details about what exactly was intended with this job offer. Perhaps someone in the NY area can &#039;apply&#039; and find out if there is another one of these posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if anyone could find out more details about what exactly was intended with this job offer. Perhaps someone in the NY area can &#8216;apply&#8217; and find out if there is another one of these posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Starr</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-941946</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, my bad for not having my Constant Comment set up right ... so don&#039;t know if anyone will ever be back to read this ... but @ Aaron:
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Dave,

As for the NYC location thing, they do state earlier in the ad that the person would be working in the midtown office location, therefore, one would have to either live in NYC or have a way to get there in order to actually do the work.
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Yes, Aaron,, I read that part and that is my question ... forget if this job is shady, legit, or outstanding, if you hire somebody to visit web sites or blogs, then why would they have to physically sit in someones office ... in NYC or anywhere else?  That&#039;s the thing that &#039;wonders&quot; me quite a bit about a number of companies who in one way seem to &quot;get&quot; the on-line community yet in another seem to have no ... last I looked I can visit blogs from nearly anywhere ... and if it&#039;s a time accounting problem, well, that&#039;s what they have dozens of freeware and commercially available time tracking programs for to prove what a person was doing on line .... note to self, must install one to track my own time reading and commenting on blogs LoL.

If voice contact is needed, Yahoo messenger, Skype, a whole panoply of free computer to computer voice utilities out there so the supervisor can give voice direction or &quot;pep&quot; talks if that&#039;s required.  No biggy, just didn&#039;t seem like a very on-line way of looking at things.

Best regards
Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, my bad for not having my Constant Comment set up right &#8230; so don&#8217;t know if anyone will ever be back to read this &#8230; but @ Aaron:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Dave,</p>
<p>As for the NYC location thing, they do state earlier in the ad that the person would be working in the midtown office location, therefore, one would have to either live in NYC or have a way to get there in order to actually do the work.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Yes, Aaron,, I read that part and that is my question &#8230; forget if this job is shady, legit, or outstanding, if you hire somebody to visit web sites or blogs, then why would they have to physically sit in someones office &#8230; in NYC or anywhere else?  That&#8217;s the thing that &#8216;wonders&#8221; me quite a bit about a number of companies who in one way seem to &#8220;get&#8221; the on-line community yet in another seem to have no &#8230; last I looked I can visit blogs from nearly anywhere &#8230; and if it&#8217;s a time accounting problem, well, that&#8217;s what they have dozens of freeware and commercially available time tracking programs for to prove what a person was doing on line &#8230;. note to self, must install one to track my own time reading and commenting on blogs LoL.</p>
<p>If voice contact is needed, Yahoo messenger, Skype, a whole panoply of free computer to computer voice utilities out there so the supervisor can give voice direction or &#8220;pep&#8221; talks if that&#8217;s required.  No biggy, just didn&#8217;t seem like a very on-line way of looking at things.</p>
<p>Best regards<br />
Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-865335</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been going on for years--- since before blogging came into its&#039; own even--- particularly throughout the entertainment industry. The ProBlogger job board has even contained at least one posting for a job far more insidious than this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been going on for years&#8212; since before blogging came into its&#8217; own even&#8212; particularly throughout the entertainment industry. The ProBlogger job board has even contained at least one posting for a job far more insidious than this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-854767</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like somebody just created the first pay-per-comment sweatshop. 

I picture dozens of people shackled to computer workstations, typing comments for 14 hours a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like somebody just created the first pay-per-comment sweatshop. </p>
<p>I picture dozens of people shackled to computer workstations, typing comments for 14 hours a day.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-854414</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I will stick to trucking for $25 an hour!</description>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The part of this whole deal that I find most interesting, actually, is the fine line between Ad #2 (probably ethical, if cynical) and Ad#1 (probably unethical, since it&#039;s hard to find a more charitable interpretation of that wording).  It&#039;s a very slippery slope, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The part of this whole deal that I find most interesting, actually, is the fine line between Ad #2 (probably ethical, if cynical) and Ad#1 (probably unethical, since it&#8217;s hard to find a more charitable interpretation of that wording).  It&#8217;s a very slippery slope, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Declan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Declan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that surprises me is that the &#039;job&#039; is being offered in the US. Haven&#039;t they heard of cheap labor in India where people will happily work for a quarter of that rate?

I have a form on one of my sites with a &#039;captcha&#039; graphic that still manages to get up 7 or 8 spam messages a day. That to me suggests that somebody is manually spamming the form and most likely getting paid for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that surprises me is that the &#8216;job&#8217; is being offered in the US. Haven&#8217;t they heard of cheap labor in India where people will happily work for a quarter of that rate?</p>
<p>I have a form on one of my sites with a &#8216;captcha&#8217; graphic that still manages to get up 7 or 8 spam messages a day. That to me suggests that somebody is manually spamming the form and most likely getting paid for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradford Knowlton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradford Knowlton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good news is if they are all commenting from the same office space, and they don&#039;t seem very bright, then the crew over at akismet can slap a ip ban on the project and kill the effort from the root so all of the comments to any wordpress or akismet filtered blog will get yanked at the source.

Brad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is if they are all commenting from the same office space, and they don&#8217;t seem very bright, then the crew over at akismet can slap a ip ban on the project and kill the effort from the root so all of the comments to any wordpress or akismet filtered blog will get yanked at the source.</p>
<p>Brad</p>
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		<title>By: holch</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-849169</link>
		<dc:creator>holch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on! $10 per hour in New York? That must be without paying tax. Who will be able to live with $10 per hour in New York or around it???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on! $10 per hour in New York? That must be without paying tax. Who will be able to live with $10 per hour in New York or around it???</p>
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		<title>By: Seopher</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-848960</link>
		<dc:creator>Seopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren, 

this sort of thing isn&#039;t terribly uncommon and can be quite different to spam.  Quite often people advertise for people to help spread their campaigns, by posting comments about the product/service.

Yes it&#039;s a fine line but I don&#039;t mind people joining relevent forums/commenting against blogs within that niche because they should be writing genuine, relevent content rather than emulating a spam bot.

Besides, it&#039;s nothing that SEO dudes haven&#039;t been doing for ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren, </p>
<p>this sort of thing isn&#8217;t terribly uncommon and can be quite different to spam.  Quite often people advertise for people to help spread their campaigns, by posting comments about the product/service.</p>
<p>Yes it&#8217;s a fine line but I don&#8217;t mind people joining relevent forums/commenting against blogs within that niche because they should be writing genuine, relevent content rather than emulating a spam bot.</p>
<p>Besides, it&#8217;s nothing that SEO dudes haven&#8217;t been doing for ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether or not we cal it spam, it&#039;s wrong.  It lacks sincerity.  It&#039;s fabricated.  And it&#039;s pervasive.  

I liken this to blog networks who join together and vote their posts up on Digg. 

It&#039;s manipulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not we cal it spam, it&#8217;s wrong.  It lacks sincerity.  It&#8217;s fabricated.  And it&#8217;s pervasive.  </p>
<p>I liken this to blog networks who join together and vote their posts up on Digg. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s manipulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawud Miracle</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-848440</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawud Miracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that this is a prime target to flex blogosphere muscle. Let&#039;s find out who this is and what this job is really about. If it&#039;s on the up-and-up, we leave it alone. If it&#039;s not, we shut down virally. And perhaps make a dent in the company as well. We don&#039;t have to be victims here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that this is a prime target to flex blogosphere muscle. Let&#8217;s find out who this is and what this job is really about. If it&#8217;s on the up-and-up, we leave it alone. If it&#8217;s not, we shut down virally. And perhaps make a dent in the company as well. We don&#8217;t have to be victims here.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Cook</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-848433</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I don&#039;t like the sounds of it. And I think it&#039;s somewhat funny that they say, &quot;You will visit these communities and interact with them honestly...&quot;

...But how can you intereact with people honestly when you have a hidden agenda...money? You cannot, not in my book. Unfortunately, I don&#039;t think they understand what &quot;good ethics&quot; are.

Dave,

As for the NYC location thing, they do state earlier in the ad that the person would be working in the midtown office location, therefore, one would have to either live in NYC or have a way to get there in order to actually do the work.

Shine on,
Aaron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t like the sounds of it. And I think it&#8217;s somewhat funny that they say, &#8220;You will visit these communities and interact with them honestly&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;But how can you intereact with people honestly when you have a hidden agenda&#8230;money? You cannot, not in my book. Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t think they understand what &#8220;good ethics&#8221; are.</p>
<p>Dave,</p>
<p>As for the NYC location thing, they do state earlier in the ad that the person would be working in the midtown office location, therefore, one would have to either live in NYC or have a way to get there in order to actually do the work.</p>
<p>Shine on,<br />
Aaron</p>
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		<title>By: Paras</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-846904</link>
		<dc:creator>Paras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently one NASDAQ listed company left spam advertisign comment on 2 posts of myblog. Ofcourse I deleted it &amp; thinking of selecting comment moderation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently one NASDAQ listed company left spam advertisign comment on 2 posts of myblog. Ofcourse I deleted it &amp; thinking of selecting comment moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: Clever Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-846349</link>
		<dc:creator>Clever Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 04:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll definitely have to keep an eye out for these comments. I&#039;ve been blogging for 6 months and my site is picking up steam, but I still get excited when someone leaves me a comment. I&#039;ll be a bit disappointed if I find out it was part of a campaign.

I have seen some of those ads mentioned by jeremy above though. Spam Karma seems to catch them fairly well though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll definitely have to keep an eye out for these comments. I&#8217;ve been blogging for 6 months and my site is picking up steam, but I still get excited when someone leaves me a comment. I&#8217;ll be a bit disappointed if I find out it was part of a campaign.</p>
<p>I have seen some of those ads mentioned by jeremy above though. Spam Karma seems to catch them fairly well though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Steele</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/02/03/is-this-advertising-agency-hiring-comment-spammers/comment-page-1/#comment-845798</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 01:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gray area marketing, gotta love it. This seems to be more along the lines of  &quot;hello, i like your site, please visit my gambling site&quot; vs &quot;buy prescription drugs, buy pre...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray area marketing, gotta love it. This seems to be more along the lines of  &#8220;hello, i like your site, please visit my gambling site&#8221; vs &#8220;buy prescription drugs, buy pre&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn Tippins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robyn Tippins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While that sort of stuff is annoying, I don&#039;t call it spam.  Spam looks like what we catch in our Akismet files. Much different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While that sort of stuff is annoying, I don&#8217;t call it spam.  Spam looks like what we catch in our Akismet files. Much different.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Starr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Stuart, I noticed that.  Wow, gotta hurry and submit my resume&#039; for this wonderful &quot;opportunity&quot; ... Puleeez.

I also was taken with the line requiring that the successful candidates live in or have easy access to New York City ... mystifies me.  let&#039;s say, for whatever reason (greed, ignorance ....) a budding blogger applies and is accepted.  Why do they have to live in or visit NYC?   Only paid with cash, under the table I guess ... tax forms, we don&#039;t need no steenking tax forms ....

It takes all kinds I suppose.  For years carnivals and games of chance have boosted profits by paying people to stand in the audience and tell how easy it is to win the games ... they are called &#039;shills&quot; ... and if you think the &quot;big winners&quot; in casinos are not sometimes phonies sent out to liven up the action, winning and losing the house&#039;s money, then I have a bridge to sell you.

No way to stop this kind of nonsense, just beware, fellow bloggers with integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Stuart, I noticed that.  Wow, gotta hurry and submit my resume&#8217; for this wonderful &#8220;opportunity&#8221; &#8230; Puleeez.</p>
<p>I also was taken with the line requiring that the successful candidates live in or have easy access to New York City &#8230; mystifies me.  let&#8217;s say, for whatever reason (greed, ignorance &#8230;.) a budding blogger applies and is accepted.  Why do they have to live in or visit NYC?   Only paid with cash, under the table I guess &#8230; tax forms, we don&#8217;t need no steenking tax forms &#8230;.</p>
<p>It takes all kinds I suppose.  For years carnivals and games of chance have boosted profits by paying people to stand in the audience and tell how easy it is to win the games &#8230; they are called &#8217;shills&#8221; &#8230; and if you think the &#8220;big winners&#8221; in casinos are not sometimes phonies sent out to liven up the action, winning and losing the house&#8217;s money, then I have a bridge to sell you.</p>
<p>No way to stop this kind of nonsense, just beware, fellow bloggers with integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to love the pay rates - anyone who is prepared to do that work for $10.00 and hour isn&#039;t going to be as creative as they might hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to love the pay rates &#8211; anyone who is prepared to do that work for $10.00 and hour isn&#8217;t going to be as creative as they might hope.</p>
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