Comments on: DEVONthink Pro and Scrivener – Tools for Writers http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/ Blog Tips to Help You Make Money Blogging - ProBlogger Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:04:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Organizational and Writing Tools for Macs - Treasure Tables http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-1035951 Organizational and Writing Tools for Macs - Treasure Tables Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:31:07 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/23/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/#comment-1035951 [...] Darren Rowse over at ProBlogger recently reviewed two writing tools for the Mac that both sound pretty nifty: DEVONthink Pro and Scrivener. (Darren’s review is aimed at bloggers, of course, but it’s easy enough to read between the lines.) [...] [...] Darren Rowse over at ProBlogger recently reviewed two writing tools for the Mac that both sound pretty nifty: DEVONthink Pro and Scrivener. (Darren’s review is aimed at bloggers, of course, but it’s easy enough to read between the lines.) [...]

]]> By: Chris Howard http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-818402 Chris Howard Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:24:56 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/23/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/#comment-818402 Jason, I searched high and low 4 years ago before I'd switched to Mac and found nothing that comes close in Windows. Things should have improved since then though. There are lots of apps out there for Windows though. Go to somewhere like download.com and search on "document management" or "information management". Dave Starr, what's more, DT will search those saved PDFs when you search in DT. As one who gets slack sometimes and doesn't get around to cataloging all the things I print to DT, the search feature is fantastic. Jason, I searched high and low 4 years ago before I’d switched to Mac and found nothing that comes close in Windows. Things should have improved since then though.

There are lots of apps out there for Windows though. Go to somewhere like download.com and search on “document management” or “information management”.

Dave Starr, what’s more, DT will search those saved PDFs when you search in DT. As one who gets slack sometimes and doesn’t get around to cataloging all the things I print to DT, the search feature is fantastic.

]]> By: Jon Johnston http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-814862 Jon Johnston Fri, 26 Jan 2007 02:38:58 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/23/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/#comment-814862 I bought the Devonthink Pro bundle when I first started my newest blog, Corn Nation - http://www.cornnation.com. I did this for several reasons.... DevonAgent is part of a bundle with Devonthink, and can be scheduled to run Internet searches for very specific research. Devonthink Pro, as stated, allows you to bring everything together, and as you gather this information over time allows you to instantly find what you've done in the past. Writing about sports, it's important to know the players and the stats and have them available when you need them. One more very important thing about DPro that hasn't been mentioned - you can store *all* of your information in a place and easily back it up. I am not aware of any comparable Windows programs. The problem on Windows is that Microsoft so controls the market that there is little room for this type of innovation - people just won't buy the software even if the market appears to be bigger. Buy a Mac. :) I bought the Devonthink Pro bundle when I first started my newest blog, Corn Nation – http://www.cornnation.com.

I did this for several reasons…. DevonAgent is part of a bundle with Devonthink, and can be scheduled to run Internet searches for very specific research.

Devonthink Pro, as stated, allows you to bring everything together, and as you gather this information over time allows you to instantly find what you’ve done in the past. Writing about sports, it’s important to know the players and the stats and have them available when you need them.

One more very important thing about DPro that hasn’t been mentioned – you can store *all* of your information in a place and easily back it up.

I am not aware of any comparable Windows programs. The problem on Windows is that Microsoft so controls the market that there is little room for this type of innovation – people just won’t buy the software even if the market appears to be bigger. Buy a Mac. :)

]]> By: Thomas http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-814152 Thomas Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:41:20 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/23/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/#comment-814152 DEVONthink is nice. I've been using it since its MacAppADay giveaway. Another great one is Journler which is free. It can do audio, video, text, basic blogging and so much more. DEVONthink is nice. I’ve been using it since its MacAppADay giveaway. Another great one is Journler which is free. It can do audio, video, text, basic blogging and so much more.

]]> By: Jason Drohn http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-813149 Jason Drohn Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:50:30 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/23/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/#comment-813149 Does anyone know of good, comparable Windows applications? Does anyone know of good, comparable Windows applications?

]]> By: Dave Starr http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-812476 Dave Starr Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:02:49 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/23/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/#comment-812476 Dang, these are some good looking tools. I can smell a Mac in my future more and more every day. One way you can tell a piece of software has real "goodness" is when someone describes a feature and you have to stop your hand in mid-movement from actually smacking yourself on the forehead, thinking, "Yes! that's what I always wanted it to do"! The DT feature to "print" collected info as .pdfs is just fantastic sounding. My current hard drive is littered with "cleverly titled" folders where I have stored away bits and pieces and occasionally thought about, but seldom actually performed the act, of printing out collected bits of data. How much nicer to keep it in one electronic 'sack'. Thanks for this info, Darren, as always I learn things here and it isn't always related strictly to blogging. Dang, these are some good looking tools. I can smell a Mac in my future more and more every day. One way you can tell a piece of software has real “goodness” is when someone describes a feature and you have to stop your hand in mid-movement from actually smacking yourself on the forehead, thinking, “Yes! that’s what I always wanted it to do”! The DT feature to “print” collected info as .pdfs is just fantastic sounding. My current hard drive is littered with “cleverly titled” folders where I have stored away bits and pieces and occasionally thought about, but seldom actually performed the act, of printing out collected bits of data. How much nicer to keep it in one electronic ‘sack’.
Thanks for this info, Darren, as always I learn things here and it isn’t always related strictly to blogging.

]]> By: Chris Howard http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-812322 Chris Howard Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:51:47 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/23/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/#comment-812322 Big fan of both, Darren. The difference between the two is DEVONthink is an information management application, while Scrivener is writing application. DT does allow you to write directly into it - which I particularly like - but once a project gets sizeable (eg 3000 words; or more than one chapter), I then move to Scrivener. I use DT for all my writing on Apple Matters before posting it as each article is only 500 to 2000 words. I did try using Scrivener for a bit for my Apple Matters writing but fell back to DT because of its information managment capabilities. My fave feature in both apps is the same - full screen! Love it. Personally, I reckon DEVONthink alone is a good enough reason to switch to Mac. And if you are a writer, Scrivener is the best writing app out there. I've reviewed both on Apple Matters in the last 6 months DEVONthink: http://www.applematters.com/index.php/section/comments/devonthink-information-management-for-everyone/ Scrivener: http://www.applematters.com/index.php/section/comments/make-writing-easier-with-scrivener/ PS One other fave feature of DT is you can print directly *to* it. This is great when I want to save a web page or an emailed invoice. Printed files are saved in DT as PDFs. Big fan of both, Darren.

The difference between the two is DEVONthink is an information management application, while Scrivener is writing application.

DT does allow you to write directly into it – which I particularly like – but once a project gets sizeable (eg 3000 words; or more than one chapter), I then move to Scrivener.

I use DT for all my writing on Apple Matters before posting it as each article is only 500 to 2000 words.

I did try using Scrivener for a bit for my Apple Matters writing but fell back to DT because of its information managment capabilities.

My fave feature in both apps is the same – full screen! Love it.

Personally, I reckon DEVONthink alone is a good enough reason to switch to Mac.

And if you are a writer, Scrivener is the best writing app out there.

I’ve reviewed both on Apple Matters in the last 6 months

DEVONthink: http://www.applematters.com/index.php/section/comments/devonthink-information-management-for-everyone/

Scrivener: http://www.applematters.com/index.php/section/comments/make-writing-easier-with-scrivener/

PS One other fave feature of DT is you can print directly *to* it. This is great when I want to save a web page or an emailed invoice. Printed files are saved in DT as PDFs.

]]> By: MacStansbury http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-812315 MacStansbury Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:48:58 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/23/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/#comment-812315 Well, I do use something like this for blogging, something by the name of <a href="http://ranchero.com/marsedit/" rel="nofollow">MarsEdit</a>. That's a multi-post system that lets you save drafts, and really explore what you want to say without that pressing need to click the "Submit" button. And since the drafts you write are saved locally, and not on your server, there's no upload time, except when you're publishing. I decided to look at DEVONthink again (I've got a personal license), and it's another tool for really organizing your life. On my internet life, I have code for advertising, CSS, and legal mumbo-jumbo I use, and I keep that stuff haphazardly organized on my hard drive. Now I'm moving my production into DEVONthink, and using folders in there to store the actual code I've written, instead of using various sprawling text files all over creation. Also, might wanna look at <a href="http://getxpad.com/" rel="nofollow">xPad</a>, something similar to DEVONthink, and now free. Well, I do use something like this for blogging, something by the name of MarsEdit. That’s a multi-post system that lets you save drafts, and really explore what you want to say without that pressing need to click the “Submit” button. And since the drafts you write are saved locally, and not on your server, there’s no upload time, except when you’re publishing.

I decided to look at DEVONthink again (I’ve got a personal license), and it’s another tool for really organizing your life. On my internet life, I have code for advertising, CSS, and legal mumbo-jumbo I use, and I keep that stuff haphazardly organized on my hard drive. Now I’m moving my production into DEVONthink, and using folders in there to store the actual code I’ve written, instead of using various sprawling text files all over creation.

Also, might wanna look at xPad, something similar to DEVONthink, and now free.

]]> By: Wallet Rehab http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-812246 Wallet Rehab Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:20:52 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/23/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/#comment-812246 I'm going to see if DEVONthink works better for me than freemind. I'm also hoping that there's a Windows version availble too. I’m going to see if DEVONthink works better for me than freemind. I’m also hoping that there’s a Windows version availble too.

]]> By: Rana http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-812244 Rana Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:20:15 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/23/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/#comment-812244 I've been testing DevonThink Pro and Devon Agent for a couple of weeks now. Although the initial trial is 150 hours, you can request a 30-day trial license. I personally think it's worth it to ask for the extended time to really get a sense of how the software will integrate into your work flow. In addition to blogging I'm a freelance writer. The ability to gather my research, pool it in a "group" and then draft an outline is rather amazing. I especially like clipping webpages I know I'll refer to in the future and keeping them on file. The clippings are small, usually under 300k, but the links remain live. Like you I haven't yet explored all the power the software has to offer but I am thoroughly in love with it. I’ve been testing DevonThink Pro and Devon Agent for a couple of weeks now. Although the initial trial is 150 hours, you can request a 30-day trial license. I personally think it’s worth it to ask for the extended time to really get a sense of how the software will integrate into your work flow. In addition to blogging I’m a freelance writer. The ability to gather my research, pool it in a “group” and then draft an outline is rather amazing. I especially like clipping webpages I know I’ll refer to in the future and keeping them on file. The clippings are small, usually under 300k, but the links remain live. Like you I haven’t yet explored all the power the software has to offer but I am thoroughly in love with it.

]]> By: Fitness Guy http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/25/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-812053 Fitness Guy Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:55:17 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/01/23/devonthink-pro-and-scrivener-tools-for-writers/#comment-812053 Im gonna give this a go. It never ceases to amaze me what new products people keep coming up with. Everyday there is something new. Im gonna give this a go. It never ceases to amaze me what new products people keep coming up with. Everyday there is something new.

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