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	<title>Comments on: Performancing Partners &#8211; First Impression Review</title>
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		<title>By: Performancing Partners Sends First Payments</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-564477</link>
		<dc:creator>Performancing Partners Sends First Payments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I just received my first ever Performancing Partners (aff) payment (read my first impression review of the ad network here). [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-555176</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 02:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think eventually pp will be successful - though I think they will need to do some &quot;promos&quot; to get advertisers. If you look at TLA (started by one of the founders of Performancing) - they had to run some heavy $100 free promos to get advertisers. Eventually it took off. I think PP will need to do the same thing.

I wish they would give publishers an idea of how many ads they have sold. 

I just completed an interview with Nick from Performancing - you can check it out here:
http://www.centernetworks.com/interview-with-performancing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think eventually pp will be successful &#8211; though I think they will need to do some &#8220;promos&#8221; to get advertisers. If you look at TLA (started by one of the founders of Performancing) &#8211; they had to run some heavy $100 free promos to get advertisers. Eventually it took off. I think PP will need to do the same thing.</p>
<p>I wish they would give publishers an idea of how many ads they have sold. </p>
<p>I just completed an interview with Nick from Performancing &#8211; you can check it out here:<br />
<a href="http://www.centernetworks.com/interview-with-performancing" rel="nofollow">http://www.centernetworks.com/interview-with-performancing</a></p>
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		<title>By: pcunix</title>
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		<dc:creator>pcunix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point, I think this is a bit of an (perhaps unintentional) scam.

Right now there are apparently no advertisers - or if there are any, it&#039;s folks looking for extreme bargains caused by publishers mis-pricing their blogs.  

So, if you have their code on your site, they run a &quot;house ad&quot; pointing back to themselves.  Great for them, doesn&#039;t help you any... and in the meantime, I&#039;ve got valuable web real estate tied up doing nothing but giving free ads for Performancing Partners. The space they are taking now for that ad might even be affecting my Google income (just because it pushes Google further down the page).

Since all they REALLY need right now is a hit counter so that they can accurately track stats, that house ad is truly a gift from me to them.. effectively it&#039;s free advertising for them at my expense - yes, I could potentially get referrals from it, but heck, I could get referral money from lots of things I could run in that space - I&#039;d rather run ads there, thanks anyway.

I&#039;m not accusing them of deliberate chicanery:  I think they WANT advertisers and may even get some someday.  But right now, running their code gives THEM free publicity and does nothing for me.

By the way, they &quot;helpfully&quot; removed me from their system and told me to remove their code after I posted the above opinion in their forum.. and then removed all traces of it from their site.. rather telling response, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, I think this is a bit of an (perhaps unintentional) scam.</p>
<p>Right now there are apparently no advertisers &#8211; or if there are any, it&#8217;s folks looking for extreme bargains caused by publishers mis-pricing their blogs.  </p>
<p>So, if you have their code on your site, they run a &#8220;house ad&#8221; pointing back to themselves.  Great for them, doesn&#8217;t help you any&#8230; and in the meantime, I&#8217;ve got valuable web real estate tied up doing nothing but giving free ads for Performancing Partners. The space they are taking now for that ad might even be affecting my Google income (just because it pushes Google further down the page).</p>
<p>Since all they REALLY need right now is a hit counter so that they can accurately track stats, that house ad is truly a gift from me to them.. effectively it&#8217;s free advertising for them at my expense &#8211; yes, I could potentially get referrals from it, but heck, I could get referral money from lots of things I could run in that space &#8211; I&#8217;d rather run ads there, thanks anyway.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not accusing them of deliberate chicanery:  I think they WANT advertisers and may even get some someday.  But right now, running their code gives THEM free publicity and does nothing for me.</p>
<p>By the way, they &#8220;helpfully&#8221; removed me from their system and told me to remove their code after I posted the above opinion in their forum.. and then removed all traces of it from their site.. rather telling response, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Performancing Ad Network Now Open to Bloggers! at Content Quake</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-546503</link>
		<dc:creator>Performancing Ad Network Now Open to Bloggers! at Content Quake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The ad network seems easier to navigate than blogads already. Ive used blogads for over a year now and have found that even with the recent upgrade to 3.0 it is quite cumbersome to deal with. I was able to set up my Performancing Ad account in about 2 minutes and with minimal headache.  They give you the option for pricing to either have it calculated by them based on your page views or you can set a price yourself. If you choose the auto pricing option, it should populate the price in 48 hours, though I found it to be less than 24. Im testing things out on our Music blog, Each Note Secure to see what happens.  Some more details on the pricing can be found here. &lt;a target=&#8221;_blank&#8221; href=&#8221;&quot;&gt;Darren over at ProBlogger has a great review of the news.  We will keep an eye on things and let you know how this new ad network stacks up to the competition! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The ad network seems easier to navigate than blogads already. Ive used blogads for over a year now and have found that even with the recent upgrade to 3.0 it is quite cumbersome to deal with. I was able to set up my Performancing Ad account in about 2 minutes and with minimal headache.  They give you the option for pricing to either have it calculated by them based on your page views or you can set a price yourself. If you choose the auto pricing option, it should populate the price in 48 hours, though I found it to be less than 24. Im testing things out on our Music blog, Each Note Secure to see what happens.  Some more details on the pricing can be found here. &lt;a target=&#8221;_blank&#8221; href=&#8221;&#8221;&gt;Darren over at ProBlogger has a great review of the news.  We will keep an eye on things and let you know how this new ad network stacks up to the competition! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Performancing Blog Ad Network - The ClickNewz! Internet Marketing Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-538907</link>
		<dc:creator>Performancing Blog Ad Network - The ClickNewz! Internet Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Adam Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually didn&#039;t set the $4, they did and then they moved it up.</description>
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		<title>By: pcunix</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-534182</link>
		<dc:creator>pcunix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to  Adam and the $4.00 price:  as you no doubt have noticed, PP&#039;s autopricing adjusted you to $28.00, which is a far more realistic figure for your blog.  Of course you are free to reduce that to be more competitive, but it shows you that you were way underpricing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to  Adam and the $4.00 price:  as you no doubt have noticed, PP&#8217;s autopricing adjusted you to $28.00, which is a far more realistic figure for your blog.  Of course you are free to reduce that to be more competitive, but it shows you that you were way underpricing.</p>
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		<title>By: Speedlinking 20 October 2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speedlinking 20 October 2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Performancing&#8217;s Partners Program officially launched (I might have jumped the gun a little with my first impression review - oops!). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Performancing&#8217;s Partners Program officially launched (I might have jumped the gun a little with my first impression review &#8211; oops!). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Performancing Partners &#183; Gangstas &#38; Hugs</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-532358</link>
		<dc:creator>Performancing Partners &#183; Gangstas &#38; Hugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Before signing up, you may want to read the preliminary reviews of the Partners service at ProBlogger and TechCrunch. They&#8217;ve got a few concerns they&#8217;d like to see addressed also. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Before signing up, you may want to read the preliminary reviews of the Partners service at ProBlogger and TechCrunch. They&#8217;ve got a few concerns they&#8217;d like to see addressed also. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pcunix</title>
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		<dc:creator>pcunix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I can&#039;t say what they REALLY do, but it LOOKS like they estimate your monthly impressions and divide that into your ad price..  so if your estimated monthly page views are 100,000 and you set a ad price of $100, that&#039;s a $1.00 CPM.

They don&#039;t always update things quickly though - if you change your price, the old cpm will show for at least a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I can&#8217;t say what they REALLY do, but it LOOKS like they estimate your monthly impressions and divide that into your ad price..  so if your estimated monthly page views are 100,000 and you set a ad price of $100, that&#8217;s a $1.00 CPM.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t always update things quickly though &#8211; if you change your price, the old cpm will show for at least a while.</p>
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		<title>By: brem</title>
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		<dc:creator>brem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pcunix: How to they calculate the CPM?</description>
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		<title>By: pcunix</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-532123</link>
		<dc:creator>pcunix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks to me like PP is already suffering performance problems.

That&#039;s good, in the sense that it must indicate a lot of interest, but it&#039;s not good that their servers are struggling under the load..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me like PP is already suffering performance problems.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s good, in the sense that it must indicate a lot of interest, but it&#8217;s not good that their servers are struggling under the load..</p>
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		<title>By: pcunix</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-531802</link>
		<dc:creator>pcunix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam:  

$4.00 a month is ridiculously low.  Even if your monthly page views really are what is showing at http://performancing.com/partners/advertisers/blogs/all when I looked (and it probably is not at all if you just put it there), you are selling your space at a .37 CPM rate.. most people make 10 - 20 times that rate with ANY kind of advertising - Google, whatever.

I think a LOT of people there have made the same mistake.. admittedly, you are a Political blog which might be seen by some as worth less than some other categories, but c&#039;mon: 37 cents is way too low..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam:  </p>
<p>$4.00 a month is ridiculously low.  Even if your monthly page views really are what is showing at <a href="http://performancing.com/partners/advertisers/blogs/all" rel="nofollow">http://performancing.com/partners/advertisers/blogs/all</a> when I looked (and it probably is not at all if you just put it there), you are selling your space at a .37 CPM rate.. most people make 10 &#8211; 20 times that rate with ANY kind of advertising &#8211; Google, whatever.</p>
<p>I think a LOT of people there have made the same mistake.. admittedly, you are a Political blog which might be seen by some as worth less than some other categories, but c&#8217;mon: 37 cents is way too low..</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Performancing Partners nieuwe add netwerk - Enthousiasmeren</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Performancing Partners nieuwe add netwerk - Enthousiasmeren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Het systeem lijkt erg op BlogAds.com (de eerste blog advertising specialist) maar lijkt eenvoudiger (volgens Darren Rowsen - ik heb zelf geen ervaring met BlogAds.com). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Het systeem lijkt erg op BlogAds.com (de eerste blog advertising specialist) maar lijkt eenvoudiger (volgens Darren Rowsen &#8211; ik heb zelf geen ervaring met BlogAds.com). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-531222</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got it on my blog. Took forever to find where to put it in my template. I got it as close to the top as I could and for $4.00 a month, it&#039;s a bargain for whoever chooses to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got it on my blog. Took forever to find where to put it in my template. I got it as close to the top as I could and for $4.00 a month, it&#8217;s a bargain for whoever chooses to buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Camden</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-530421</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Camden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course - the second I post this - I return and I find it. Still, I think it could be easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course &#8211; the second I post this &#8211; I return and I find it. Still, I think it could be easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Camden</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-530418</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Camden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must be an idiot. I signed up but see NO place to get ad code. I see a place to blog and all kinds of other things, but nothing that says, &quot;Get your ad code here.&quot; The site is _totally_ confusing. If it is a free blog along with a blog ad network, fine, but for the life of me I can&#039;t find how to just use the blog ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must be an idiot. I signed up but see NO place to get ad code. I see a place to blog and all kinds of other things, but nothing that says, &#8220;Get your ad code here.&#8221; The site is _totally_ confusing. If it is a free blog along with a blog ad network, fine, but for the life of me I can&#8217;t find how to just use the blog ads.</p>
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		<title>By: Performancing launches new blog ad network at The Blog Herald</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-529914</link>
		<dc:creator>Performancing launches new blog ad network at The Blog Herald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For a more extensive review check out Darren Rowse&#8217;s Review. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: churchpundit</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/10/18/performancing-partners-first-impression-review/comment-page-1/#comment-529903</link>
		<dc:creator>churchpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gonna go right now and give it a shot! thus spoke churchpundit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gonna go right now and give it a shot! thus spoke churchpundit!</p>
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		<title>By: pcunix</title>
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		<dc:creator>pcunix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that was very confusing was setting a price..  be very careful with this.

What happens is that they estimate monthly page views from current activity.  As you&#039;d expect, it&#039;s going to take several hours or maybe even a couple of days for that to stabilize and be accurate.  

So in the meantime, you set a price.. the cpm looks way too high because your estimated page views aren&#039;t accurate yet.  Remember that price you set is what you get for the WHOLE MONTH.  So, for example, because of not knowing what your monthly pageviews really are, their tools might suggest $3.00 or less as your price - and unless you are a teeny, teeny site, you certainly want more than that!

Base your price on what you know your page views actually are.  The CPM will look artificially high until they catch up, but that will adjust itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that was very confusing was setting a price..  be very careful with this.</p>
<p>What happens is that they estimate monthly page views from current activity.  As you&#8217;d expect, it&#8217;s going to take several hours or maybe even a couple of days for that to stabilize and be accurate.  </p>
<p>So in the meantime, you set a price.. the cpm looks way too high because your estimated page views aren&#8217;t accurate yet.  Remember that price you set is what you get for the WHOLE MONTH.  So, for example, because of not knowing what your monthly pageviews really are, their tools might suggest $3.00 or less as your price &#8211; and unless you are a teeny, teeny site, you certainly want more than that!</p>
<p>Base your price on what you know your page views actually are.  The CPM will look artificially high until they catch up, but that will adjust itself.</p>
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