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		<title>By: Sheila (@stinginthetail)</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-2/#comment-4657835</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila (@stinginthetail)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>read this post when you did it, and laughed - just dropping a note to say i&#039;ve just linked here, and thanks for posting the link to the Google copyright theft form - my blog was plagiarised on the second day i wrote in it by someone on Blogspot, and i was so annoyed that Google weren&#039;t doing anything - at least now there&#039;s a chance they&#039;ll take down the stolen content - which in this case is the entire blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>read this post when you did it, and laughed &#8211; just dropping a note to say i&#8217;ve just linked here, and thanks for posting the link to the Google copyright theft form &#8211; my blog was plagiarised on the second day i wrote in it by someone on Blogspot, and i was so annoyed that Google weren&#8217;t doing anything &#8211; at least now there&#8217;s a chance they&#8217;ll take down the stolen content &#8211; which in this case is the entire blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit Savyon</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-2/#comment-4651447</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit Savyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo&#039;s approach is very interesting, and, on a similar topic, I&#039;m currently reading Lawrence Lessig&#039;s &quot;Free Culture&quot;, great stuff.  Recommend reading it here:  http://www.free-culture.cc/freecontent/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo&#8217;s approach is very interesting, and, on a similar topic, I&#8217;m currently reading Lawrence Lessig&#8217;s &#8220;Free Culture&#8221;, great stuff.  Recommend reading it here:  <a href="http://www.free-culture.cc/freecontent/" rel="nofollow">http://www.free-culture.cc/freecontent/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Philip Nowak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Nowak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amit Savyon,

Excellent feedback.  Some of your points are very clever and I have not heard before.  I am sure that all of us can employ the use of many of your suggestions to protect our content.

Interestingly enough, Leo Babauta, of Zen Habits, went the completely opposite direction and chose to &quot;Uncopyright&quot; as he calls it.  He has an entire page, &quot;Open Source Blogging: Feel Free to Steal My Content&quot;, that explains the reasons why he has decided to go this route.

-Philip Nowak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amit Savyon,</p>
<p>Excellent feedback.  Some of your points are very clever and I have not heard before.  I am sure that all of us can employ the use of many of your suggestions to protect our content.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, Leo Babauta, of Zen Habits, went the completely opposite direction and chose to &#8220;Uncopyright&#8221; as he calls it.  He has an entire page, &#8220;Open Source Blogging: Feel Free to Steal My Content&#8221;, that explains the reasons why he has decided to go this route.</p>
<p>-Philip Nowak</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Nowak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Nowak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren, 

I enjoyed your post.  I&#039;ve always said that it is important to have fun and don&#039;t take yourself too seriously.  Not only does it reduce your own stress level, but people are drawn to others when they show an ability to make a serious topic more lighthearted.  Ultimately, your levelheadedness benefits your popularity tremendously.

-Philip Nowak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren, </p>
<p>I enjoyed your post.  I&#8217;ve always said that it is important to have fun and don&#8217;t take yourself too seriously.  Not only does it reduce your own stress level, but people are drawn to others when they show an ability to make a serious topic more lighthearted.  Ultimately, your levelheadedness benefits your popularity tremendously.</p>
<p>-Philip Nowak</p>
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		<title>By: Amit Savyon</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-2/#comment-4642142</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit Savyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren et al: you&#039;ve poignantly described the situation, but have misidentified the problem. 

You (and most other people in the comments) have focused on &quot;people are taking your content&quot; as the problem. 

But the real problem is that you&#039;re not benefitting when these people take your content. 

If you think I just said something self-evident, then you missed my point. 

I&#039;ll start with a premise:  the internet is a success when information flows freely. And a failure when information flow is prevented. 

Let&#039;s look back at Napster &amp; RIAA in 1999. The music industry saw millions of people stealing their music, and therefore sent their lawyers after all of them. 

But if the RIAA had seen Napster as an opportunity, rather than a threat, had the RIAA put their faith in the free flow of information, rather than preventing that flow, I believe that the music industry today would NOT be in the shambles it&#039;s in. 

To bring this back to successful bloggers like you, if you look at this whole situation from the perspective of &quot;free flow of information is a good thing&quot;, then you can realize that there&#039;s a simple set of steps you can take to BENEFIT from the many, many people who will continue to take your content and publish it as their own. 

I will list a few steps here:

1) Watermark Your Content:
Embed links within your RSS feeds, pointing back to your site. And by &quot;within&quot; I mean in parentheses, in the middle of a paragraph

Sure, some content scrapers will disable these links, but most of them will republish your content on their sites, linking back to you. 

This benefits you by Google seeing more backlinks to your site, and visitors to those sites clicking over to you. 


2) To catch the people who remove the links,insert text every so often in the content &quot;brought to you by Darren Rowe&quot;. Important that the text is separate from the link, because the people who automatically remove links will remove anchor text as well. 

3) Regarding your duplicate content fear, first Google&#039;s algorithm knows who is the original writer and who is the scraper. 

A blog like yours, you&#039;re usually indexed in Google with 5-10 minutes after posting. 

So any site that republishes your content will do so AFTER Google already knows about your new post. 

Additionally, Google looks at sites, not just content. From Google&#039;s perspective, it&#039;s easy to see that all the articles on your site are original, while all the articles on the other sites are scraped (because guess what?  Those sites usually scrape from multiple sources at once). 

3a) But if you REALLY want to be &quot;safe&quot; on this point, set your RSS to wait to put new content in it until that new content has been indexed by Google. That way you can be absolutely sure that Google knew about you first.  


Ok there are more things that can be done to benefit from people reprinting your content, but I&#039;ll leave it at that. I&#039;m sure people will have a lot of &quot;buts&quot;, but it all comes down to one thing:  information is flowing freely like a river. You can never stop a river. Better to use it, have it generate energy for you, use it for transport. Treat information flow like a river and you&#039;ll benefit from all those people you previously thought were stealing from you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren et al: you&#8217;ve poignantly described the situation, but have misidentified the problem. </p>
<p>You (and most other people in the comments) have focused on &#8220;people are taking your content&#8221; as the problem. </p>
<p>But the real problem is that you&#8217;re not benefitting when these people take your content. </p>
<p>If you think I just said something self-evident, then you missed my point. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll start with a premise:  the internet is a success when information flows freely. And a failure when information flow is prevented. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look back at Napster &amp; RIAA in 1999. The music industry saw millions of people stealing their music, and therefore sent their lawyers after all of them. </p>
<p>But if the RIAA had seen Napster as an opportunity, rather than a threat, had the RIAA put their faith in the free flow of information, rather than preventing that flow, I believe that the music industry today would NOT be in the shambles it&#8217;s in. </p>
<p>To bring this back to successful bloggers like you, if you look at this whole situation from the perspective of &#8220;free flow of information is a good thing&#8221;, then you can realize that there&#8217;s a simple set of steps you can take to BENEFIT from the many, many people who will continue to take your content and publish it as their own. </p>
<p>I will list a few steps here:</p>
<p>1) Watermark Your Content:<br />
Embed links within your RSS feeds, pointing back to your site. And by &#8220;within&#8221; I mean in parentheses, in the middle of a paragraph</p>
<p>Sure, some content scrapers will disable these links, but most of them will republish your content on their sites, linking back to you. </p>
<p>This benefits you by Google seeing more backlinks to your site, and visitors to those sites clicking over to you. </p>
<p>2) To catch the people who remove the links,insert text every so often in the content &#8220;brought to you by Darren Rowe&#8221;. Important that the text is separate from the link, because the people who automatically remove links will remove anchor text as well. </p>
<p>3) Regarding your duplicate content fear, first Google&#8217;s algorithm knows who is the original writer and who is the scraper. </p>
<p>A blog like yours, you&#8217;re usually indexed in Google with 5-10 minutes after posting. </p>
<p>So any site that republishes your content will do so AFTER Google already knows about your new post. </p>
<p>Additionally, Google looks at sites, not just content. From Google&#8217;s perspective, it&#8217;s easy to see that all the articles on your site are original, while all the articles on the other sites are scraped (because guess what?  Those sites usually scrape from multiple sources at once). </p>
<p>3a) But if you REALLY want to be &#8220;safe&#8221; on this point, set your RSS to wait to put new content in it until that new content has been indexed by Google. That way you can be absolutely sure that Google knew about you first.  </p>
<p>Ok there are more things that can be done to benefit from people reprinting your content, but I&#8217;ll leave it at that. I&#8217;m sure people will have a lot of &#8220;buts&#8221;, but it all comes down to one thing:  information is flowing freely like a river. You can never stop a river. Better to use it, have it generate energy for you, use it for transport. Treat information flow like a river and you&#8217;ll benefit from all those people you previously thought were stealing from you</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-2/#comment-4642025</link>
		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is awful and there is no excuse for that type of behavior! But, if it&#039;s any consolation your content is SO good and that is why it is happening. 

I point other bloggers to check out your site all the time, but I do it with a link ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is awful and there is no excuse for that type of behavior! But, if it&#8217;s any consolation your content is SO good and that is why it is happening. </p>
<p>I point other bloggers to check out your site all the time, but I do it with a link ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Of All the Lame Excuses for Stealing Content &#124; The Blog Herald</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-2/#comment-4642022</link>
		<dc:creator>Of All the Lame Excuses for Stealing Content &#124; The Blog Herald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Darren has another excuse to add to his list of horror here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Darren has another excuse to add to his list of horror here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rizzo Tees</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-2/#comment-4642007</link>
		<dc:creator>Rizzo Tees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG did people really say all of those to you?</description>
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		<title>By: PoLR</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-2/#comment-4642006</link>
		<dc:creator>PoLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love number 6! 

You&#039;ve got to give them credit for honesty in their replies if nothing else!

I get it a lot with scraper sites but also have noticed one blog copying the format of several posts (headings, title etc but rewritten the actual paragraphs)  -  so close to our posts but un-provable. I keep being told to think of it as flattering but it isn&#039;t, it&#039;s downright theft (and uncreative to boot!) Pah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love number 6! </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got to give them credit for honesty in their replies if nothing else!</p>
<p>I get it a lot with scraper sites but also have noticed one blog copying the format of several posts (headings, title etc but rewritten the actual paragraphs)  &#8211;  so close to our posts but un-provable. I keep being told to think of it as flattering but it isn&#8217;t, it&#8217;s downright theft (and uncreative to boot!) Pah.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-1/#comment-4641999</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren,
     You have every right to be upset about stolen content. The right of intellectual property are worth protecting.
      I also commend you for keeping a cool head, and redirecting the conversation after &quot;chris&quot; ranted. It is not easy to do that.
       Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren,<br />
     You have every right to be upset about stolen content. The right of intellectual property are worth protecting.<br />
      I also commend you for keeping a cool head, and redirecting the conversation after &#8220;chris&#8221; ranted. It is not easy to do that.<br />
       Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: mmorpg</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmorpg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rofl, number 8 is so true...whenever I write an article I notice 23423 other spam sites scoop it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rofl, number 8 is so true&#8230;whenever I write an article I notice 23423 other spam sites scoop it up.</p>
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		<title>By: ernan</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-1/#comment-2335410</link>
		<dc:creator>ernan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m getting pissed off toowith those kind of people. you tried so hard to make a content. and out of nowhere someone will just copy it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m getting pissed off toowith those kind of people. you tried so hard to make a content. and out of nowhere someone will just copy it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-1/#comment-1998724</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for this. i actually just caught someone today who was posing as me, using ALL of my pictures on facebook, had the same first name, but different last name. Her main facebook picture was literally one of MY pictures that i had cropped and edited. I reported her to Facebook and they immediately deleted her. But, the thing is there&#039;s no telling if she (or he) will create a new account. Since in order to add pictures you MUST download them from your computer...Therefore, this person has a LOAD of MY pics on their computer.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this. i actually just caught someone today who was posing as me, using ALL of my pictures on facebook, had the same first name, but different last name. Her main facebook picture was literally one of MY pictures that i had cropped and edited. I reported her to Facebook and they immediately deleted her. But, the thing is there&#8217;s no telling if she (or he) will create a new account. Since in order to add pictures you MUST download them from your computer&#8230;Therefore, this person has a LOAD of MY pics on their computer&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-1/#comment-447857</link>
		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren,

I can&#039;t tell you how pissed I am. It just happened to me. First time. Probably not the last. Someone lifted my post completely. With no link back, no nothing. A post I submitted to you for your List Project. It was my &quot;4 ways to more romance.&quot; The guy changed it to &quot;4 ways to more romance in my life.&quot; Do you ever get use to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren,</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how pissed I am. It just happened to me. First time. Probably not the last. Someone lifted my post completely. With no link back, no nothing. A post I submitted to you for your List Project. It was my &#8220;4 ways to more romance.&#8221; The guy changed it to &#8220;4 ways to more romance in my life.&#8221; Do you ever get use to it?</p>
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		<title>By: PiracyTimes.com &#187; Piracy hits the Blogosphere</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-1/#comment-443297</link>
		<dc:creator>PiracyTimes.com &#187; Piracy hits the Blogosphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Darren Rowse of ProBlogger.net has shed some light on the latest form of Internet piracy - blog piracy. He also gives some good tips to prevent (you know if you are doing it!) the temptation: I’m going to make this as clear as possible. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Darren Rowse of ProBlogger.net has shed some light on the latest form of Internet piracy &#8211; blog piracy. He also gives some good tips to prevent (you know if you are doing it!) the temptation: I’m going to make this as clear as possible. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eMoms at Home &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I Must Have Hit the Big Time Now</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/08/18/top-8-excuses-for-stealing-other-peoples-content/comment-page-1/#comment-442567</link>
		<dc:creator>eMoms at Home &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I Must Have Hit the Big Time Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And the reason I GOT the mean comment is even cooler - get this. Darren over at Problogger has people stealing his content all the time. And it was fascinating on my end when he posted a link to me to watch that link start appearing in other places - all over the internet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And the reason I GOT the mean comment is even cooler &#8211; get this. Darren over at Problogger has people stealing his content all the time. And it was fascinating on my end when he posted a link to me to watch that link start appearing in other places &#8211; all over the internet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Chris&quot;,  I&#039;d urge you to take a chill pill or something, mate - you&#039;re coming off as a raving mad, foaming at the mouth whack job. Discuss the issues with passion but do it with some class and respect at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Chris&#8221;,  I&#8217;d urge you to take a chill pill or something, mate &#8211; you&#8217;re coming off as a raving mad, foaming at the mouth whack job. Discuss the issues with passion but do it with some class and respect at least.</p>
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		<title>By: hamish</title>
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		<dc:creator>hamish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think more action needs to be taken by search engines and feed aggregators.  

It&#039;s not in a search engines interest to have to index the same material 40 times.  I for one get frustrated when you can still find useful material on the 30th page of a google search, and everytime you click a result you get the same content.  It used to be that any good results were on the first page, now its clone clone clone...

And surely feed aggregators would have a better, more effective service should they cut the crap.  

How could this be done?  I wouldn&#039;t have a clue.  Any private group that makes a list of &quot;original content posters&quot; and &quot;cloners&quot; would no doubt get it wrong sometimes, and like email servers, suddenly good clean servers get listed as spam relays and can&#039;t send email to anyone using their safe list, and then have to prove they were innocent.  Mabe blogging software makers?  Maybe ISP&#039;s (dreamhost.com are the only large ISP that I think would do something cool like boot users for copyblogging)?  Maybe google?

Until someone figures out a way, it seems that the besy thing to do is ignore it, as even shaming them publically sends them more traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think more action needs to be taken by search engines and feed aggregators.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not in a search engines interest to have to index the same material 40 times.  I for one get frustrated when you can still find useful material on the 30th page of a google search, and everytime you click a result you get the same content.  It used to be that any good results were on the first page, now its clone clone clone&#8230;</p>
<p>And surely feed aggregators would have a better, more effective service should they cut the crap.  </p>
<p>How could this be done?  I wouldn&#8217;t have a clue.  Any private group that makes a list of &#8220;original content posters&#8221; and &#8220;cloners&#8221; would no doubt get it wrong sometimes, and like email servers, suddenly good clean servers get listed as spam relays and can&#8217;t send email to anyone using their safe list, and then have to prove they were innocent.  Mabe blogging software makers?  Maybe ISP&#8217;s (dreamhost.com are the only large ISP that I think would do something cool like boot users for copyblogging)?  Maybe google?</p>
<p>Until someone figures out a way, it seems that the besy thing to do is ignore it, as even shaming them publically sends them more traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Chris - lets calm down a little. If you want me to answer you then all I&#039;d ask for is a little courtesy. No need to get into name calling here. I feel I&#039;ve answered most of your comment already above to John - but a few further reflections:

1. RSS - there is debate over this and as far as I can see I&#039;m entitled to put a copyright notice on my feeds. I am the author of them, I spent many hours writing them - I can do what I like with them.

I&#039;m sure the argument over whether content can be used by others happens every time there is a new medium (books, newspapers, websites, CDs etc). In most cases that I can think of the author of content is protected.

I use feeds so that people can read my content in a way that suits them via a news aggregator and not so they can randomly republish every word I write on their own sites. I don&#039;t like them doing this for two reasons. 

Firstly it&#039;s an issue of duplicate content. Google treats content appearing in multiple places in the exact same form badly. I don&#039;t want to risk it. If I were to let everyone repost my content there would be many copies of every post I write around the web.  

Secondly when a publisher allows people to reprint their content they run the risk of that content being used in ways that they might not wish it to be used. I&#039;ve seen my feeds stripped of acknowledgments to authorship, put into ebooks to be sold and twisted to be used to promote products that I&#039;m dead against.

Saying that just because I  use a technology that allows people to republish and therefore it&#039;s legal is a crazy argument. Virtually any way of presenting information can be republished but its not always legal to do so.

2. there is a difference between what I do on my blogs and what I&#039;m complaining about in this post.

- On my blogs I manually search for content that is relevant to the topic I&#039;m writing about (those I&#039;m referring to above simply republish everything from a feed).
- I use short quotes from sites that I find (others republish full feeds)
- I always link back and acknowledge a source (many others don&#039;t)
- I have a working relationship with many of the sites that I use content from. They actively pitch their stories to me on a daily basis and ask me to quote them (others don&#039;t seek permission and sheepishly make excuses when confronted)
- Many of the sites I link to link back to my blogs and use quotes from what I write in a similar fashion when I write reviews
- I&#039;ve had interactions with people from mainstream search engines and have shown them my sites - they&#039;ve not seen them as spammy sites. Many other scraper type blogs do get banned from search engines.
- If you look deeper in my blogs you&#039;ll find that we don&#039;t just use the quotes once. Without giving all my competitors a complete outline of how I run my blogs I will say that I do add value to the quotes I use by collating them together in a way that my readers do find useful.
- My sites are read by 30-40,000 people a day and have close to 20,000 email subscribers. Obviously someone&#039;s finding them useful.
- Most of the sites that I see republishing content do nothing of real use with that content. They randomly scrape everything a site writes - in fact many of the operations I&#039;ve seen are scraping the feeds from hundreds of blogs at a time and are producing hundreds of thousands of useless content every year.

I&#039;m not sure what else I can say Chris.

I&#039;m a little confused though because the email address that you use is from a network of sites that seem to be doing almost an identical thing to what I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Chris &#8211; lets calm down a little. If you want me to answer you then all I&#8217;d ask for is a little courtesy. No need to get into name calling here. I feel I&#8217;ve answered most of your comment already above to John &#8211; but a few further reflections:</p>
<p>1. RSS &#8211; there is debate over this and as far as I can see I&#8217;m entitled to put a copyright notice on my feeds. I am the author of them, I spent many hours writing them &#8211; I can do what I like with them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the argument over whether content can be used by others happens every time there is a new medium (books, newspapers, websites, CDs etc). In most cases that I can think of the author of content is protected.</p>
<p>I use feeds so that people can read my content in a way that suits them via a news aggregator and not so they can randomly republish every word I write on their own sites. I don&#8217;t like them doing this for two reasons. </p>
<p>Firstly it&#8217;s an issue of duplicate content. Google treats content appearing in multiple places in the exact same form badly. I don&#8217;t want to risk it. If I were to let everyone repost my content there would be many copies of every post I write around the web.  </p>
<p>Secondly when a publisher allows people to reprint their content they run the risk of that content being used in ways that they might not wish it to be used. I&#8217;ve seen my feeds stripped of acknowledgments to authorship, put into ebooks to be sold and twisted to be used to promote products that I&#8217;m dead against.</p>
<p>Saying that just because I  use a technology that allows people to republish and therefore it&#8217;s legal is a crazy argument. Virtually any way of presenting information can be republished but its not always legal to do so.</p>
<p>2. there is a difference between what I do on my blogs and what I&#8217;m complaining about in this post.</p>
<p>- On my blogs I manually search for content that is relevant to the topic I&#8217;m writing about (those I&#8217;m referring to above simply republish everything from a feed).<br />
- I use short quotes from sites that I find (others republish full feeds)<br />
- I always link back and acknowledge a source (many others don&#8217;t)<br />
- I have a working relationship with many of the sites that I use content from. They actively pitch their stories to me on a daily basis and ask me to quote them (others don&#8217;t seek permission and sheepishly make excuses when confronted)<br />
- Many of the sites I link to link back to my blogs and use quotes from what I write in a similar fashion when I write reviews<br />
- I&#8217;ve had interactions with people from mainstream search engines and have shown them my sites &#8211; they&#8217;ve not seen them as spammy sites. Many other scraper type blogs do get banned from search engines.<br />
- If you look deeper in my blogs you&#8217;ll find that we don&#8217;t just use the quotes once. Without giving all my competitors a complete outline of how I run my blogs I will say that I do add value to the quotes I use by collating them together in a way that my readers do find useful.<br />
- My sites are read by 30-40,000 people a day and have close to 20,000 email subscribers. Obviously someone&#8217;s finding them useful.<br />
- Most of the sites that I see republishing content do nothing of real use with that content. They randomly scrape everything a site writes &#8211; in fact many of the operations I&#8217;ve seen are scraping the feeds from hundreds of blogs at a time and are producing hundreds of thousands of useless content every year.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what else I can say Chris.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little confused though because the email address that you use is from a network of sites that seem to be doing almost an identical thing to what I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Tetsuto Yabuki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tetsuto Yabuki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that every nuthead always tries to justify everything by talking about laws they don&#039;t even have the brains to comprehend? It&#039;s about ethics, knucklehead. If you&#039;re so poor over in Eastern Europe that you&#039;d stoop to breaking into other people&#039;s houses to survive, which is practically what these thieves are doing when they swipe other people&#039;s blog posts, I truely feel sorry for you. Go give your pee-sized brain a rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that every nuthead always tries to justify everything by talking about laws they don&#8217;t even have the brains to comprehend? It&#8217;s about ethics, knucklehead. If you&#8217;re so poor over in Eastern Europe that you&#8217;d stoop to breaking into other people&#8217;s houses to survive, which is practically what these thieves are doing when they swipe other people&#8217;s blog posts, I truely feel sorry for you. Go give your pee-sized brain a rest.</p>
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