Comments on: Alternate Ads and the noscript Tag http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/ Blog Tips to Help You Make Money Blogging - ProBlogger Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:13:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: RkMailer http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-1374166 RkMailer Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:31:41 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-1374166 Excellent idea Eric. However, I have a problem with with AdSense code when the code is inside the iframe. Users are not able to click the AdSense Ads @ http://www.orientalads.com/default.asp/ Any help why the ads are not clickable (javascript is enabled), please. Thanks, RkMailer Excellent idea Eric. However, I have a problem with with AdSense code when the code is inside the iframe. Users are not able to click the AdSense Ads @ http://www.orientalads.com/default.asp/

Any help why the ads are not clickable (javascript is enabled), please.

Thanks,
RkMailer

]]> By: LD http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-305080 LD Sun, 28 May 2006 13:22:25 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-305080 Eric, thank You very much for excellent practical tutorial! Eric, thank You very much for excellent practical tutorial!

]]> By: BC http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-285039 BC Fri, 19 May 2006 18:54:07 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-285039 I can't figure this out. I am using a friend's computer and I cannot click on Adsense ads on some sites. I can click on AdSense ads at Canada.com though - not sure why. eg. http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/index.html (in red near bottom of page) I can’t figure this out. I am using a friend’s computer and I cannot click on Adsense ads on some sites. I can click on AdSense ads at Canada.com though – not sure why.

eg. http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/index.html (in red near bottom of page)

]]> By: Eric Giguere http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-285010 Eric Giguere Fri, 19 May 2006 18:36:36 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-285010 Well, this would be a special case. Sometimes AdSense publishers use software like this to prevent themselves from clicking on ads on their own sites... Well, this would be a special case. Sometimes AdSense publishers use software like this to prevent themselves from clicking on ads on their own sites…

]]> By: BC http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-285000 BC Fri, 19 May 2006 18:32:58 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-285000 The ads are displayed - why would the user not be able to click on the ads? The ads are displayed – why would the user not be able to click on the ads?

]]> By: Eric Giguere http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-284986 Eric Giguere Fri, 19 May 2006 18:26:31 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-284986 No. If you're seeing ads, it means that the JavaScript is running. The tag only gets invoked when JavaScript is disabled. No. If you’re seeing ads, it means that the JavaScript is running. The tag only gets invoked when JavaScript is disabled.

]]> By: BC http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-284964 BC Fri, 19 May 2006 18:18:15 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-284964 I noticed that if the user has some kind of ad blocking software, Adsense and YPN ads are displayed, but nothing happens if the user clicks on the ad. Can the noscript tag be used here? I noticed that if the user has some kind of ad blocking software, Adsense and YPN ads are displayed, but nothing happens if the user clicks on the ad. Can the noscript tag be used here?

]]> By: Doug http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-268706 Doug Sat, 29 Apr 2006 01:38:00 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-268706 I think the point is made well about utilizing the noscript tags, that often are overlooked. It's not about ad-blocking in particular. Tech savvy surfers who block ads do so by other means. Disabling JavaScript for the sole purpose of blocking ads is about as bright as blocking flash to block ads. Something that might work better than showing essentially bottom-tier ads/affiliate links(unless server generated and well-targetted) is making a banner or text blurb stating that the site is supported by advertising and if the user wishes to block ads, a store purchase or donaation/tip would be appreciated to help cover costs and time spent on it. It really depends on your content and site/business model though. I think the point is made well about utilizing the noscript tags, that often are overlooked. It’s not about ad-blocking in particular. Tech savvy surfers who block ads do so by other means. Disabling JavaScript for the sole purpose of blocking ads is about as bright as blocking flash to block ads.

Something that might work better than showing essentially bottom-tier ads/affiliate links(unless server generated and well-targetted) is making a banner or text blurb stating that the site is supported by advertising and if the user wishes to block ads, a store purchase or donaation/tip would be appreciated to help cover costs and time spent on it. It really depends on your content and site/business model though.

]]> By: Eric Giguere http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-268262 Eric Giguere Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:12:09 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-268262 Obviously, there are different approaches that publishers can take with respect to displaying or not displaying ads. On some of my sites, for example, I go to the extra effort of <a href="http://www.memwg.com/blog/adsense/How-to-prevent-ads-from-printing.html" rel="nofollow">hiding ads when printing</a> a page, because the ads are useless in that case. It all depends on your situation. Only you know what's best for your site. Obviously, there are different approaches that publishers can take with respect to displaying or not displaying ads. On some of my sites, for example, I go to the extra effort of hiding ads when printing a page, because the ads are useless in that case. It all depends on your situation. Only you know what’s best for your site.

]]> By: A.B. Dada http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-268244 A.B. Dada Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:45:49 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-268244 The question is why would you force some sort of advertisement on people who went through the trouble of blocking yours? It is NOT the equivalent of TV shows adding product placement within the show -- it is like TV shows finding ways to move commercials past the Tivos and PVRs so they're still displayed, much to the chagrin of the consumer who doesn't want to see them. In this situation, it is more important to find out WHY your readers don't want to look at your advertising. Are they just swamped by ads that aren't relevant? Do they not want to buy online? My top 5 readers are also my top 5 commenters. They're also generally ad-blockers (which I've confirmed by seeing that their visits to my sites don't seem to update my pageviews in AdSense but do on my counters). Why would I be happy that they don't view ads? First of all, it doesn't hurt my CTR -- they won't click anyway. Secondly, I profit MORE from their input and continued commentary than by any 50 cent or $1 click from them. Some readers take an hour out of every day to comment on my various articles -- one hour to pay 20 people to comment each is 20 hours times US$12 per hour. I just gained US$240 (or more) worth of commentary rather than, say, US$10 in ad income. I would MUCH rather get written input than ad clicks by people who won't buy from my advertisers. I think the AdSense and YPN TOS is stupid to preventing people from talking about their ads in certain ways. For example, I'd rather be able to tell peope NOT to click if the ads aren't interesting, but this still draws attention to the ads, according to the networks. In the long run, you write for a profit -- not just financial, but informational. The input of readers is more profitable for me than monetizing ever will be. Every new comment that is insightful makes me worth more money in my real job. The question is why would you force some sort of advertisement on people who went through the trouble of blocking yours? It is NOT the equivalent of TV shows adding product placement within the show — it is like TV shows finding ways to move commercials past the Tivos and PVRs so they’re still displayed, much to the chagrin of the consumer who doesn’t want to see them.

In this situation, it is more important to find out WHY your readers don’t want to look at your advertising. Are they just swamped by ads that aren’t relevant? Do they not want to buy online?

My top 5 readers are also my top 5 commenters. They’re also generally ad-blockers (which I’ve confirmed by seeing that their visits to my sites don’t seem to update my pageviews in AdSense but do on my counters). Why would I be happy that they don’t view ads?

First of all, it doesn’t hurt my CTR — they won’t click anyway. Secondly, I profit MORE from their input and continued commentary than by any 50 cent or $1 click from them. Some readers take an hour out of every day to comment on my various articles — one hour to pay 20 people to comment each is 20 hours times US$12 per hour. I just gained US$240 (or more) worth of commentary rather than, say, US$10 in ad income.

I would MUCH rather get written input than ad clicks by people who won’t buy from my advertisers. I think the AdSense and YPN TOS is stupid to preventing people from talking about their ads in certain ways. For example, I’d rather be able to tell peope NOT to click if the ads aren’t interesting, but this still draws attention to the ads, according to the networks.

In the long run, you write for a profit — not just financial, but informational. The input of readers is more profitable for me than monetizing ever will be. Every new comment that is insightful makes me worth more money in my real job.

]]> By: Martin http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-266981 Martin Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:09:06 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-266981 eh, i think every at least little advanced webmaster knows how this works. but ok, there may be some beginners too... eh, i think every at least little advanced webmaster knows how this works. but ok, there may be some beginners too…

]]> By: Eric Giguere http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-266634 Eric Giguere Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:44:17 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-266634 That's a slightly different case, but same principle. What you'd do is wrap the entire script/noscript block with a conditional comment to exclude it from IE 7. Then you'd add a new block consisting of just an iframe that you'd wrap within another conditional comment, this time including the new block only on IE 7. Gets kind of ugly, though. However, it's my understanding that IE 7 blocking AdSense ads is just a bug... but I haven't tested it myself, as I'm primarily a Firefox user at this point (see my blog for a nifty little Greasemonkey script that highlights AdSense ads...) That’s a slightly different case, but same principle. What you’d do is wrap the entire script/noscript block with a conditional comment to exclude it from IE 7. Then you’d add a new block consisting of just an iframe that you’d wrap within another conditional comment, this time including the new block only on IE 7. Gets kind of ugly, though. However, it’s my understanding that IE 7 blocking AdSense ads is just a bug… but I haven’t tested it myself, as I’m primarily a Firefox user at this point (see my blog for a nifty little Greasemonkey script that highlights AdSense ads…)

]]> By: Brent http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-266619 Brent Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:43:49 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-266619 Excellent tutorial. Just the other day I was thinking about what I was going to do if IE 7 was going to handle scripts differently (I read an article on how Adsense didn't work in early versions of IE 7 Beta 1). Now I know exactly what I need to do. Excellent tutorial. Just the other day I was thinking about what I was going to do if IE 7 was going to handle scripts differently (I read an article on how Adsense didn’t work in early versions of IE 7 Beta 1). Now I know exactly what I need to do.

]]> By: Eric Giguere http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-266612 Eric Giguere Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:26:57 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-266612 Glad you liked it, and thanks to Darren for running it here. I also like to wrap the entire script/noscript block in a div as well, but that's not a requirement. Glad you liked it, and thanks to Darren for running it here. I also like to wrap the entire script/noscript block in a div as well, but that’s not a requirement.

]]> By: Cary http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/04/28/alternate-ads-and-the-tag/comment-page-1/#comment-266523 Cary Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:05:20 +0000 http://www.problogger.net/?p=2511#comment-266523 Excellent tutorial Eric... as soon as I get a chance to tweak my templates I'm going to put this one into play. Excellent tutorial Eric… as soon as I get a chance to tweak my templates I’m going to put this one into play.

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