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		<title>By: Kay Smoljak</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-243410</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Smoljak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how you feel - as a web site developer I deal a lot with clients who think they have great ideas for promoting their businesses online - which often turn out to be spam. The reason I chose the career path I did is that I truly love being part of the web (and the blogosphere). People who want to pollute it offend and upset me! Of course, when they&#039;re clients I have to try to educate them, which is frustrating too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how you feel &#8211; as a web site developer I deal a lot with clients who think they have great ideas for promoting their businesses online &#8211; which often turn out to be spam. The reason I chose the career path I did is that I truly love being part of the web (and the blogosphere). People who want to pollute it offend and upset me! Of course, when they&#8217;re clients I have to try to educate them, which is frustrating too.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate being rude to people who I consider are only doing their job and trying to earn a living. I&#039;ve been lucky so far on spam, but we&#039;ve been bombarded recently with sales phone calls from the same companies.

I have become increasingly rude as they don&#039;t seem to get the message. I went from listening politely then explaining why I didn&#039;t want it, to interupting them halfway through the pitch and saying no thanks to now just putting the phone down immediately without speaking.

I don&#039;t like doing it but it seems the only way.

BTW, I have learnt a few simple shut-down lines:
&quot;We&#039;ve just moved into a new house&quot; kills all home improvement calls
&quot;I work for BT/AT&amp;T and get free phone line/calls/mobile&quot; ends all phone company sales</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate being rude to people who I consider are only doing their job and trying to earn a living. I&#8217;ve been lucky so far on spam, but we&#8217;ve been bombarded recently with sales phone calls from the same companies.</p>
<p>I have become increasingly rude as they don&#8217;t seem to get the message. I went from listening politely then explaining why I didn&#8217;t want it, to interupting them halfway through the pitch and saying no thanks to now just putting the phone down immediately without speaking.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like doing it but it seems the only way.</p>
<p>BTW, I have learnt a few simple shut-down lines:<br />
&#8220;We&#8217;ve just moved into a new house&#8221; kills all home improvement calls<br />
&#8220;I work for BT/AT&amp;T and get free phone line/calls/mobile&#8221; ends all phone company sales</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Demopoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242639</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Demopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m moving up to Q or P-list blogger, they&#039;re going after me too :)

I don&#039;t mind a pleasant kind low pressure &quot;pitch&quot; - &quot;like check this out, you&#039;ve written about something similar, wanta free trial?&quot; But persistent annoyances get ignored - quickly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m moving up to Q or P-list blogger, they&#8217;re going after me too :)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind a pleasant kind low pressure &#8220;pitch&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;like check this out, you&#8217;ve written about something similar, wanta free trial?&#8221; But persistent annoyances get ignored &#8211; quickly!</p>
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		<title>By: Zslotyi</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242608</link>
		<dc:creator>Zslotyi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Darren,

The &quot;Get Paid to Read Email&quot; AdSense ad at the end of the post is just weird and funny :-)

I don&#039;t know, it must have been the mentioning of &quot;paid to surf&quot; programs, but it seems that AS doesn&#039;t always get it the way it was meant to be read.

Nice post, BTW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Darren,</p>
<p>The &#8220;Get Paid to Read Email&#8221; AdSense ad at the end of the post is just weird and funny :-)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, it must have been the mentioning of &#8220;paid to surf&#8221; programs, but it seems that AS doesn&#8217;t always get it the way it was meant to be read.</p>
<p>Nice post, BTW!</p>
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		<title>By: Chrono Cr@cker</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242414</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrono Cr@cker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 04:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;m sure that you must have thorougly enjoyed the experiences Darren :D! It&#039;s really stupid in the 3rd case, automated posting. LOL! If you want to earn money from your blog, then make your blog a true bLog. LOL!

Nice post!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m sure that you must have thorougly enjoyed the experiences Darren :D! It&#8217;s really stupid in the 3rd case, automated posting. LOL! If you want to earn money from your blog, then make your blog a true bLog. LOL!</p>
<p>Nice post!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alvin</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242391</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those people who create splogs are coming from a very different place. I have a friend who claims to have created 400+ automated splogs, and is pretty darn proud of it.

The thing is, he doesn&#039;t want to be part of the &#039;sphere, or doesn&#039;t get it. It&#039;s about making a quick buck, and yes, I understand it too. Who doesn&#039;t want automated slaves working for you to make you money?

But the part of me that loves writing and sees blogging as a great bridging tool can&#039;t do it. I think the human touch about blogging is it&#039;s core and it&#039;s what makes it work. It is about connection and conversation, and no way a bot is ever going to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those people who create splogs are coming from a very different place. I have a friend who claims to have created 400+ automated splogs, and is pretty darn proud of it.</p>
<p>The thing is, he doesn&#8217;t want to be part of the &#8216;sphere, or doesn&#8217;t get it. It&#8217;s about making a quick buck, and yes, I understand it too. Who doesn&#8217;t want automated slaves working for you to make you money?</p>
<p>But the part of me that loves writing and sees blogging as a great bridging tool can&#8217;t do it. I think the human touch about blogging is it&#8217;s core and it&#8217;s what makes it work. It is about connection and conversation, and no way a bot is ever going to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Declan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Declan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Darren,

People like this are a drain. On one of my websites which receives 8,000 - 9,000 visitors per day I can be guranteed to get at least one or two of these timewasters .I used to go to bed absolutely wound up but now I have learnt to ignore them and spend time creating value for others. Think about it - the hour you wasted with that dude could have been spent more productively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Darren,</p>
<p>People like this are a drain. On one of my websites which receives 8,000 &#8211; 9,000 visitors per day I can be guranteed to get at least one or two of these timewasters .I used to go to bed absolutely wound up but now I have learnt to ignore them and spend time creating value for others. Think about it &#8211; the hour you wasted with that dude could have been spent more productively.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242343</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josue - nice comment.

Actually if someone sends me a link to something in a quick non spammy way that puts no pressure on to link up then I&#039;m quite open to checking them out.

I get a lot of &#039;hey check out this link&#039; emails and I look at all of them (unless they are obviously spam) and link up to about 20% (guess) - the ones that I think are relevant to my niche (quite often in my speedlinking posts).

So feel free to submit them if you find something you think is relevant.

The only other thing I&#039;ll say on this is that sometimes I get the story from multiple people (as well as finding it myself) and so giving credit can be tricky - I generally give it to the first person to let me know about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josue &#8211; nice comment.</p>
<p>Actually if someone sends me a link to something in a quick non spammy way that puts no pressure on to link up then I&#8217;m quite open to checking them out.</p>
<p>I get a lot of &#8216;hey check out this link&#8217; emails and I look at all of them (unless they are obviously spam) and link up to about 20% (guess) &#8211; the ones that I think are relevant to my niche (quite often in my speedlinking posts).</p>
<p>So feel free to submit them if you find something you think is relevant.</p>
<p>The only other thing I&#8217;ll say on this is that sometimes I get the story from multiple people (as well as finding it myself) and so giving credit can be tricky &#8211; I generally give it to the first person to let me know about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Josue</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242342</link>
		<dc:creator>Josue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren,

With such a succesful blog like this one, it is normal (I guess) to be approached by people that only want but don&#039;t give anything.

I sometimes find cool things on the net and I think &quot;oh, problogger readers would benefit from this one.&quot; But I don&#039;t send them to you, &#039;cause I&#039;m afraid you may think I just want &quot;link attention&quot; or I&#039;m spaming. That stops me from commenting often. There are probably others in the same situation, dunno.

You could probably set an &quot;anonynous tips center&quot; or, as Victor said, you could hire someone to filter your inbox or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren,</p>
<p>With such a succesful blog like this one, it is normal (I guess) to be approached by people that only want but don&#8217;t give anything.</p>
<p>I sometimes find cool things on the net and I think &#8220;oh, problogger readers would benefit from this one.&#8221; But I don&#8217;t send them to you, &#8217;cause I&#8217;m afraid you may think I just want &#8220;link attention&#8221; or I&#8217;m spaming. That stops me from commenting often. There are probably others in the same situation, dunno.</p>
<p>You could probably set an &#8220;anonynous tips center&#8221; or, as Victor said, you could hire someone to filter your inbox or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242340</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually - if he &#039;persists&#039; I&#039;ll definately write a story on him and his product - and the way he&#039;s promoting it! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually &#8211; if he &#8216;persists&#8217; I&#8217;ll definately write a story on him and his product &#8211; and the way he&#8217;s promoting it! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Teli</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242338</link>
		<dc:creator>Teli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, meant the second guy LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, meant the second guy LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Teli</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242337</link>
		<dc:creator>Teli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking, Darren, that the last guy (the one trying to pitch you his product) believes that being tenacious will get him through the door.

He&#039;s probably trying to work you down until youjust give in (don&#039;t think you will though).

Remember, Darren, that you cannot change people - you can only hope to educate them and you did your best. Hope your day gets better :)

P.S. As you may have already guessed from the previous comments, you&#039;re not alone. I&#039;ve received contact form spam (people literally copy/paste their offer into my contact form without any thought) for nearly a year and it still hasn&#039;t ceased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking, Darren, that the last guy (the one trying to pitch you his product) believes that being tenacious will get him through the door.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s probably trying to work you down until youjust give in (don&#8217;t think you will though).</p>
<p>Remember, Darren, that you cannot change people &#8211; you can only hope to educate them and you did your best. Hope your day gets better :)</p>
<p>P.S. As you may have already guessed from the previous comments, you&#8217;re not alone. I&#8217;ve received contact form spam (people literally copy/paste their offer into my contact form without any thought) for nearly a year and it still hasn&#8217;t ceased.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242332</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats what I thought at first yuga but he was definately pitching the story at ProBlogger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats what I thought at first yuga but he was definately pitching the story at ProBlogger.</p>
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		<title>By: yuga</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242330</link>
		<dc:creator>yuga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the guy on the phone landed on one of your other gadget blogs and thought you were a gadget blogger. :) Never heard of pitches via phones for blog PR though. Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the guy on the phone landed on one of your other gadget blogs and thought you were a gadget blogger. :) Never heard of pitches via phones for blog PR though. Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Helps</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242324</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Helps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The solution - join me in Z-List-blogger-land. I guarantee you&#039;ll stop getting approached by any such people ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution &#8211; join me in Z-List-blogger-land. I guarantee you&#8217;ll stop getting approached by any such people ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242319</link>
		<dc:creator>Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep it up mate, I love your blog and what you&#039;re doing for the blogging community. 

Everyone, no matter where, will always try and get ahead for little cost. It&#039;s part of life. Don&#039;t let it deter you from doing what you do best to get ahead.

People&#039;s supportive comments, and the incoming affiliate checks are always a welcome relief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep it up mate, I love your blog and what you&#8217;re doing for the blogging community. </p>
<p>Everyone, no matter where, will always try and get ahead for little cost. It&#8217;s part of life. Don&#8217;t let it deter you from doing what you do best to get ahead.</p>
<p>People&#8217;s supportive comments, and the incoming affiliate checks are always a welcome relief.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242277</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite a triumvirate... you need a beer. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite a triumvirate&#8230; you need a beer. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Alan @ Weblogstop</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242273</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan @ Weblogstop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to go round and round with people at the RichDad.com forums about paid to surf programs.

I can&#039;t believe people would waste their time going to sites they don&#039;t care about just to get people that couldn&#039;t give a rip, to come to their site.

Go figure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to go round and round with people at the RichDad.com forums about paid to surf programs.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe people would waste their time going to sites they don&#8217;t care about just to get people that couldn&#8217;t give a rip, to come to their site.</p>
<p>Go figure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242270</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I treat people on IM the same way I treat people knocking on the door.  If they&#039;re trying to sell me something, even religion, I tell them I&#039;m not interested.  Straight away.  I then close the door on them.  In IM, I select &#039;ignore&#039; and close their window.  Problem solved.  

As someone said above, I don&#039;t understand why you spend so much time talking to them.  You&#039;re wasting your energy on something you don&#039;t want to do.  Take back your energy and learn to say &#039;no&#039;.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I treat people on IM the same way I treat people knocking on the door.  If they&#8217;re trying to sell me something, even religion, I tell them I&#8217;m not interested.  Straight away.  I then close the door on them.  In IM, I select &#8216;ignore&#8217; and close their window.  Problem solved.  </p>
<p>As someone said above, I don&#8217;t understand why you spend so much time talking to them.  You&#8217;re wasting your energy on something you don&#8217;t want to do.  Take back your energy and learn to say &#8216;no&#8217;.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moncur</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/03/23/blood-boiling-blogging-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-242265</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Moncur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to talk to telemarketers for half an hour before I could get rid of them, being a nice guy and all. Now I just hang up at the first sign of disrespect. I offer a polite refusal, and if they continue, they&#039;ve abandoned manners so I do too.

Also, it helps that I list a onebox.com 800 number on all of my domain names. People can call it but it goes straight to voicemail, and the voice messages are delivered by email so I can hear them and delete them - they don&#039;t get a response unless I&#039;m interested.

I know the feeling, though... having dealt with about 100 trackback spams, 10 forum spams, and a few nasty comments this morning. Somehow it&#039;s all worth it, I&#039;m sure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to talk to telemarketers for half an hour before I could get rid of them, being a nice guy and all. Now I just hang up at the first sign of disrespect. I offer a polite refusal, and if they continue, they&#8217;ve abandoned manners so I do too.</p>
<p>Also, it helps that I list a onebox.com 800 number on all of my domain names. People can call it but it goes straight to voicemail, and the voice messages are delivered by email so I can hear them and delete them &#8211; they don&#8217;t get a response unless I&#8217;m interested.</p>
<p>I know the feeling, though&#8230; having dealt with about 100 trackback spams, 10 forum spams, and a few nasty comments this morning. Somehow it&#8217;s all worth it, I&#8217;m sure&#8230;</p>
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