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		<title>By: Ziami Anzüge</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/08/turn-to-compete-with-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-574805</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziami Anzüge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm, no, thanks, its for me! Adsense is garbage and with pay per click one earns not very much :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm, no, thanks, its for me! Adsense is garbage and with pay per click one earns not very much :(</p>
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		<title>By: PigPog</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/08/turn-to-compete-with-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-227291</link>
		<dc:creator>PigPog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More Ad Fiddling&lt;/strong&gt;

Update: Forgot to mention that I&#8217;ve also removed Google Analytics.  That shouldn&#8217;t actually make any difference from the &#8216;user&#8217; point of view, but it was a bit of javascript running that gave us access to lots of stats.  The stats </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>More Ad Fiddling</strong></p>
<p>Update: Forgot to mention that I&#8217;ve also removed Google Analytics.  That shouldn&#8217;t actually make any difference from the &#8216;user&#8217; point of view, but it was a bit of javascript running that gave us access to lots of stats.  The stats</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/08/turn-to-compete-with-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-227283</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone seen the value of clicks from YPN go down since December or so?

I have seen it drop dramatically.  Clicks used to fetch a bit more than adsense, but now it is a sharply lower than what I used to get on average from adsense.

Has me worried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone seen the value of clicks from YPN go down since December or so?</p>
<p>I have seen it drop dramatically.  Clicks used to fetch a bit more than adsense, but now it is a sharply lower than what I used to get on average from adsense.</p>
<p>Has me worried.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/08/turn-to-compete-with-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-227256</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started programming my own text ad system with the intention of launching a new company.  Then Google came along and did it better, making my own efforts seem pretty silly.

I guess you could say Google saved me a lot of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started programming my own text ad system with the intention of launching a new company.  Then Google came along and did it better, making my own efforts seem pretty silly.</p>
<p>I guess you could say Google saved me a lot of work.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/08/turn-to-compete-with-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-227245</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe - no, never seriously considered it Andy - not quite my thing. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe &#8211; no, never seriously considered it Andy &#8211; not quite my thing. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Howard</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/08/turn-to-compete-with-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-227222</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comments above re exclusive adsense vs combined ads... seriously Darren, would you consider starting a rival contextual advertising company? I think it has potential, and I myself have considered starting a contextual advertising company specific to Australian blogs and websites. 

It&#039;s only a pipedream for me, but for someone with your knowledge and connections it&#039;s not out of the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments above re exclusive adsense vs combined ads&#8230; seriously Darren, would you consider starting a rival contextual advertising company? I think it has potential, and I myself have considered starting a contextual advertising company specific to Australian blogs and websites. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s only a pipedream for me, but for someone with your knowledge and connections it&#8217;s not out of the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Toad</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/08/turn-to-compete-with-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-227207</link>
		<dc:creator>Toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 10:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really wondering how hard it would be to make your own contextual advertising program.  They can&#039;t be so difficult and must be somewhat profitable because there are so many out there.

The hard part for me would be finding all the advertisers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really wondering how hard it would be to make your own contextual advertising program.  They can&#8217;t be so difficult and must be somewhat profitable because there are so many out there.</p>
<p>The hard part for me would be finding all the advertisers</p>
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		<title>By: George Appiah</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/08/turn-to-compete-with-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-227191</link>
		<dc:creator>George Appiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah ok Darren. That&#039;s the curiosity  I wanted to satisfy above ... but your Karma kind-a-captcha&#039;red me ... and my comment came late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah ok Darren. That&#8217;s the curiosity  I wanted to satisfy above &#8230; but your Karma kind-a-captcha&#8217;red me &#8230; and my comment came late.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/08/turn-to-compete-with-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-227186</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice experiment anonymouse - i&#039;ve heard a couple of other people say the same thing. My own experience is that when I added Chitika my Adsense went down about 10% but that my overall earnings almost doubled. Must depend a lot on the topic, positioning of ads etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice experiment anonymouse &#8211; i&#8217;ve heard a couple of other people say the same thing. My own experience is that when I added Chitika my Adsense went down about 10% but that my overall earnings almost doubled. Must depend a lot on the topic, positioning of ads etc.</p>
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		<title>By: George Appiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Appiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comment above. What I&#039;m wondering is  .... whether the revenue from those other ads that replace Adsense ads are at least at par with the &#039;lost&#039; Adsense revenue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comment above. What I&#8217;m wondering is  &#8230;. whether the revenue from those other ads that replace Adsense ads are at least at par with the &#8216;lost&#8217; Adsense revenue</p>
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		<title>By: anonymouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm

My experience so far is that if you remove all other ads and just keep adsense, adsense start to give you the best result. If I put chitika or any other ad system within 24 hrs, I see drop by 30-50%. If I remove other ads within 24 hrs, again adsense goes back to normal. I guess adsense detect all those additional ad system and start to serve low value ads. For example (if I get same number of clicks on adsense):

With other ads + adsense = $20-$22
Only adsense = $40-$45

Therefore, I decided to stick with adsense. It looks like Google favors adsense only sites ;) . Please note that it may be because of some technical reasons, which I do not understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm</p>
<p>My experience so far is that if you remove all other ads and just keep adsense, adsense start to give you the best result. If I put chitika or any other ad system within 24 hrs, I see drop by 30-50%. If I remove other ads within 24 hrs, again adsense goes back to normal. I guess adsense detect all those additional ad system and start to serve low value ads. For example (if I get same number of clicks on adsense):</p>
<p>With other ads + adsense = $20-$22<br />
Only adsense = $40-$45</p>
<p>Therefore, I decided to stick with adsense. It looks like Google favors adsense only sites ;) . Please note that it may be because of some technical reasons, which I do not understand.</p>
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		<title>By: hatem</title>
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		<dc:creator>hatem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 07:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Turn last week but didn&#039;t find any information about it yet, when it will be launched .. etc but every new coming is always welcome since it will help making more money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Turn last week but didn&#8217;t find any information about it yet, when it will be launched .. etc but every new coming is always welcome since it will help making more money.</p>
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