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		<title>By: New AdSense referrals for Google Pack and Picasa: ProBlogger Blog Tips</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/11/05/are-adsense-getting-into-the-affiliate-marketing-game/comment-page-1/#comment-273095</link>
		<dc:creator>New AdSense referrals for Google Pack and Picasa: ProBlogger Blog Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 22:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PS: Looks like Google ARE getting into the affiliate marketing game after-all - this makes their referral options 5. If you enjoyed this post Subscribe to the Free ProBlogger Newsletter [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PS: Looks like Google ARE getting into the affiliate marketing game after-all &#8211; this makes their referral options 5. If you enjoyed this post Subscribe to the Free ProBlogger Newsletter [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AnastasiaWebBrides</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnastasiaWebBrides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I connect the partner program with Anastasia web.
My site has small PR, nevertheless they I pay each month 300 - 500 $</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I connect the partner program with Anastasia web.<br />
My site has small PR, nevertheless they I pay each month 300 &#8211; 500 $</p>
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		<title>By: : Blog Tips at ProBlogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>: Blog Tips at ProBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 12:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stories from a Web Junkie life &#187; Living Offline</title>
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		<dc:creator>stories from a Web Junkie life &#187; Living Offline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 03:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are Adsense Getting into the Affiliate Marketing Game? &#8220;I’ve been pondering the Adsense decision to get into the referral business this morning since hearing the news. There are a number of questions and directions that my mind has taken with it.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Are Adsense Getting into the Affiliate Marketing Game? &#8220;I’ve been pondering the Adsense decision to get into the referral business this morning since hearing the news. There are a number of questions and directions that my mind has taken with it.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tmtb</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmtb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Referrals for AdWords can be included in that &#039;products&#039; group as well. There are tons of small businesses that could profit from AdWords, but are not using it right now. Perhaps referrals for AdWords clients are next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Referrals for AdWords can be included in that &#8216;products&#8217; group as well. There are tons of small businesses that could profit from AdWords, but are not using it right now. Perhaps referrals for AdWords clients are next.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 02:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, Google pays out all publishers at the end of the calendar year irrespective of wether you reach the $100 balance required for monthly pay outs. It&#039;s Google&#039;s right to determine it&#039;s business systems and processes, it discloses these at sign up via the terms if you don&#039;t agree with the terms then don&#039;t join their revenue program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, Google pays out all publishers at the end of the calendar year irrespective of wether you reach the $100 balance required for monthly pay outs. It&#8217;s Google&#8217;s right to determine it&#8217;s business systems and processes, it discloses these at sign up via the terms if you don&#8217;t agree with the terms then don&#8217;t join their revenue program.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/11/05/are-adsense-getting-into-the-affiliate-marketing-game/comment-page-1/#comment-154052</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 02:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked through the FAQ about the referrall program and it states nothing about placing a referrall banner on the same page as an adsense unit.

I have placed the banner directly above my adsense units on my website http://www.usedmac.ca The thought behind this is visitors will be attracted to the Adsense banner and possibly click the ads. 

Is this against the T.O.S.? I think it may be walking a fine line but I am interested to what the CTR will turn out to be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked through the FAQ about the referrall program and it states nothing about placing a referrall banner on the same page as an adsense unit.</p>
<p>I have placed the banner directly above my adsense units on my website <a href="http://www.usedmac.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.usedmac.ca</a> The thought behind this is visitors will be attracted to the Adsense banner and possibly click the ads. </p>
<p>Is this against the T.O.S.? I think it may be walking a fine line but I am interested to what the CTR will turn out to be?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 17:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It maybe worthwhile to consider future Google acquisitions. With their monster cash pile, they could quite easily purchase Commission Junction or LinkShare (or both!). Having that backend, would require some changes on the front end. Perhaps we are seeing that now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It maybe worthwhile to consider future Google acquisitions. With their monster cash pile, they could quite easily purchase Commission Junction or LinkShare (or both!). Having that backend, would require some changes on the front end. Perhaps we are seeing that now?</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hock Ng put it well, I thought it amusing that Google is paying people to refer users away from Internet Explorer by paying a dollar to use Firefox.  Maybe a strike back at Bill Gates comment about gmail?  Hmm.

As far as who else to refer?  There are plenty, believe me.  I referred an associate a few months ago, got nothing for it except his gratitude.  I referred one of my affiliates recently also that claims to have 100,000 uniques a week or so, but never had AdSense on his pages even though he had lots of other advertising banners.  Got nothing for that one either.  And as was said before, there are new web site owners coming on board every day in droves.  

Reminds me of what I thought when I joined the eBay affiliate program, with 70 million registered users or so already, who is there to refer (especially considering eBay is a household word and people go straight there as soon as they buy a computer, rather than surfing through other sites first to find an affiliate link).  Yet I still get signups every month through my links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hock Ng put it well, I thought it amusing that Google is paying people to refer users away from Internet Explorer by paying a dollar to use Firefox.  Maybe a strike back at Bill Gates comment about gmail?  Hmm.</p>
<p>As far as who else to refer?  There are plenty, believe me.  I referred an associate a few months ago, got nothing for it except his gratitude.  I referred one of my affiliates recently also that claims to have 100,000 uniques a week or so, but never had AdSense on his pages even though he had lots of other advertising banners.  Got nothing for that one either.  And as was said before, there are new web site owners coming on board every day in droves.  </p>
<p>Reminds me of what I thought when I joined the eBay affiliate program, with 70 million registered users or so already, who is there to refer (especially considering eBay is a household word and people go straight there as soon as they buy a computer, rather than surfing through other sites first to find an affiliate link).  Yet I still get signups every month through my links.</p>
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		<title>By: Hock Ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hock Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that Google is pushing Firefox point to the larger war between Google and Microsoft. This looks like an effort to edge out Internet Explorer and since Google doesn&#039;t have a web browser product, they&#039;ve partnered with Firefox. 

You are correct in pointing out that this is just the tip of the iceberg. I can envision Google promoting their other products using affiliates. Gmail is a good example. If Google were to offer incentives for signing up people to use Gmail, that would be a launching point in the battle against Yahoo and AOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that Google is pushing Firefox point to the larger war between Google and Microsoft. This looks like an effort to edge out Internet Explorer and since Google doesn&#8217;t have a web browser product, they&#8217;ve partnered with Firefox. </p>
<p>You are correct in pointing out that this is just the tip of the iceberg. I can envision Google promoting their other products using affiliates. Gmail is a good example. If Google were to offer incentives for signing up people to use Gmail, that would be a launching point in the battle against Yahoo and AOL.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisH</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/11/05/are-adsense-getting-into-the-affiliate-marketing-game/comment-page-1/#comment-153628</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks heaps, hob. :)</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/11/05/are-adsense-getting-into-the-affiliate-marketing-game/comment-page-1/#comment-153618</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have something of a complaint about AdSense, since we&#039;re talking about them anyway.  It&#039;s maybe a bit off topic.  Forgive me in advance for that.  I have been an AdSense publisher for 4 full months now.  My AdSense earnings in that period are just over $30.  Okay, I know, I know... it&#039;s not much.  But it&#039;s what I&#039;ve made and I&#039;m proud of it as I&#039;m sure my earnings will grow.  Now, I have also joined the Chitika program, which I put on my site on October 3rd.  In that time, I have made just over $24.  

Here&#039;s what annoys me.  This will be my first month with Chitika, so I don&#039;t know what audited revenue will be like, but I assume from what Darren said about his first months from them, that I may lose 10% of my earnings, give or take.   That&#039;s fine.  I will still get more than $20 from them.  And they will send it to my PayPal account this month sometime because I am over the $10 threshhold.  

Google, on the other hand, has a threshold of $100 for payment to occur.  God knows how long before I see a payment from you AdSense.  (For one thing, the AdSense targeting on my site has gone to crap this month for some reason, and despite implementing every idea I&#039;ve come across to try to improve it, I&#039;ve only managed to do so marginally, but that&#039;s another story.)  Anyway, I&#039;m sure it saves Google a ton of money not to have to pay the little guys who never get to $100 and give up on the idea of trying to make money on the net, but really... it&#039;s still wrong.  They still displayed the ad and got a click, which Google certainly got paid for.  There&#039;s no reason why they should hold their money for so long.  I thought one of the tenets of Google&#039;s business was &quot;Don&#039;t be evil&quot;?  Well, I feel like this policy is evil.   

Just thought I&#039;d share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have something of a complaint about AdSense, since we&#8217;re talking about them anyway.  It&#8217;s maybe a bit off topic.  Forgive me in advance for that.  I have been an AdSense publisher for 4 full months now.  My AdSense earnings in that period are just over $30.  Okay, I know, I know&#8230; it&#8217;s not much.  But it&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve made and I&#8217;m proud of it as I&#8217;m sure my earnings will grow.  Now, I have also joined the Chitika program, which I put on my site on October 3rd.  In that time, I have made just over $24.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what annoys me.  This will be my first month with Chitika, so I don&#8217;t know what audited revenue will be like, but I assume from what Darren said about his first months from them, that I may lose 10% of my earnings, give or take.   That&#8217;s fine.  I will still get more than $20 from them.  And they will send it to my PayPal account this month sometime because I am over the $10 threshhold.  </p>
<p>Google, on the other hand, has a threshold of $100 for payment to occur.  God knows how long before I see a payment from you AdSense.  (For one thing, the AdSense targeting on my site has gone to crap this month for some reason, and despite implementing every idea I&#8217;ve come across to try to improve it, I&#8217;ve only managed to do so marginally, but that&#8217;s another story.)  Anyway, I&#8217;m sure it saves Google a ton of money not to have to pay the little guys who never get to $100 and give up on the idea of trying to make money on the net, but really&#8230; it&#8217;s still wrong.  They still displayed the ad and got a click, which Google certainly got paid for.  There&#8217;s no reason why they should hold their money for so long.  I thought one of the tenets of Google&#8217;s business was &#8220;Don&#8217;t be evil&#8221;?  Well, I feel like this policy is evil.   </p>
<p>Just thought I&#8217;d share.</p>
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		<title>By: Home Office Blues</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/11/05/are-adsense-getting-into-the-affiliate-marketing-game/comment-page-1/#comment-153571</link>
		<dc:creator>Home Office Blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 12:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChrisH - 
Jensense does a good job of showing the Adsense term changes here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jensense.com/archives/2005/11/full_rundown_on.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jensense: Full rundown on new Adsense Terms&lt;/a&gt;

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChrisH &#8211;<br />
Jensense does a good job of showing the Adsense term changes here:<br />
<a href="http://www.jensense.com/archives/2005/11/full_rundown_on.html" rel="nofollow">Jensense: Full rundown on new Adsense Terms</a></p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Adsense blocked me because i reported invalid clicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adsense blocked me because i reported invalid clicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah google suck for that...

your not allowed to do what darren has done in his site with the &quot;revenue streams&quot; it influences people to click on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah google suck for that&#8230;</p>
<p>your not allowed to do what darren has done in his site with the &#8220;revenue streams&#8221; it influences people to click on it.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW Can anyone tell me what&#039;s different about the new Adsense terms?  Would have been nice if they had&#039;ve highlighted the changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW Can anyone tell me what&#8217;s different about the new Adsense terms?  Would have been nice if they had&#8217;ve highlighted the changes.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I agree with Densie. Which means the referral program could be a boon for pro-bloggers since they&#039;ve got the credibility so their recommendations are more likely to be acted on.

Even though I use referral programs, what worries me is the life-expectancy of the click.  Just because Joe Blow clicks on your referral, how do you know if he decides to sign up next week, you&#039;ll still get the credit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I agree with Densie. Which means the referral program could be a boon for pro-bloggers since they&#8217;ve got the credibility so their recommendations are more likely to be acted on.</p>
<p>Even though I use referral programs, what worries me is the life-expectancy of the click.  Just because Joe Blow clicks on your referral, how do you know if he decides to sign up next week, you&#8217;ll still get the credit?</p>
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		<title>By: Denise O'Berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise O'Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is left to refer? Don&#039;t forget there are newbies coming online each and every day. They&#039;re going to find their way to the pros and would likely sign up from a site that is an authority. They also have an opportunity to be successful faster since there are so many tools and tips for them to choose from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is left to refer? Don&#8217;t forget there are newbies coming online each and every day. They&#8217;re going to find their way to the pros and would likely sign up from a site that is an authority. They also have an opportunity to be successful faster since there are so many tools and tips for them to choose from.</p>
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		<title>By: Adsense blocked me because i reported invalid clicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adsense blocked me because i reported invalid clicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren, i read some of google your &quot;Recommended Income Streams&quot; may be violating TOS of google Adsense.

Incentives

Some of this section has been reworded to include &quot;referral buttons&quot;, and the following has been added:

Publishers are also not permitted to use deceptive or unnatural means to draw attention to or incite clicks on referral buttons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren, i read some of google your &#8220;Recommended Income Streams&#8221; may be violating TOS of google Adsense.</p>
<p>Incentives</p>
<p>Some of this section has been reworded to include &#8220;referral buttons&#8221;, and the following has been added:</p>
<p>Publishers are also not permitted to use deceptive or unnatural means to draw attention to or incite clicks on referral buttons.</p>
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		<title>By: Jojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 09:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had yesterday in only 4 hours 10 clicks and 3 referrals. So I think this might be the way to earn some money with my german internetmarketing blog. ;-)
I don´t think we will see Google in the affiliate business, but maybe they will use this referral programm to advertise more Google stuff like Google Desktop or Google Talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had yesterday in only 4 hours 10 clicks and 3 referrals. So I think this might be the way to earn some money with my german internetmarketing blog. ;-)<br />
I don´t think we will see Google in the affiliate business, but maybe they will use this referral programm to advertise more Google stuff like Google Desktop or Google Talk.</p>
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		<title>By: eszpee</title>
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		<dc:creator>eszpee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 08:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to argue with your conclusions, just a small addition:

&quot;Who is left to Refer?&quot; - non-English speaking countries. Here in Hungary for example there are almost no sites running AdSense. No wonder they started with all the supported languages I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to argue with your conclusions, just a small addition:</p>
<p>&#8220;Who is left to Refer?&#8221; &#8211; non-English speaking countries. Here in Hungary for example there are almost no sites running AdSense. No wonder they started with all the supported languages I think.</p>
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