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		<title>By: GettyCash</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks as always</description>
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		<title>By: Content Attack! &#187; Chitika - Contextual Ads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Content Attack! &#187; Chitika - Contextual Ads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chitika is still very new and my guess is that over the coming months a lot of other products will be added. Problogger has an excellent review about the Chitika eMiniMalls ad services. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Chitika is still very new and my guess is that over the coming months a lot of other products will be added. Problogger has an excellent review about the Chitika eMiniMalls ad services. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re obliged to try stop it happening I guess.

I guess its in there to stop people trying to rip off the system</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re obliged to try stop it happening I guess.</p>
<p>I guess its in there to stop people trying to rip off the system</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Lavercombe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Lavercombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure, but are we obliged to actually do anything? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure, but are we obliged to actually do anything? ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think its pretty standard - they are just saying that we as publishers will do our best to prevent click fraud from my reading of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think its pretty standard &#8211; they are just saying that we as publishers will do our best to prevent click fraud from my reading of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Lavercombe</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/10/18/chitika-eminimalls-affiliate-program-launches/comment-page-1/#comment-146378</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Lavercombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Darren,

Is there are concern about the bit in the T&amp;C that says that website owners will attempt to stop bots and such from generating page views and click throughs?

Not sure I quite understand the implications of such a statement.

Thanks as always,

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Darren,</p>
<p>Is there are concern about the bit in the T&amp;C that says that website owners will attempt to stop bots and such from generating page views and click throughs?</p>
<p>Not sure I quite understand the implications of such a statement.</p>
<p>Thanks as always,</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liliha - I got a paypal payment for the first month I was in the program - they seem to be paying fine. I&#039;ve not heard of any publisher big or small who didn&#039;t get paid out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liliha &#8211; I got a paypal payment for the first month I was in the program &#8211; they seem to be paying fine. I&#8217;ve not heard of any publisher big or small who didn&#8217;t get paid out.</p>
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		<title>By: Liliha</title>
		<link>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/10/18/chitika-eminimalls-affiliate-program-launches/comment-page-1/#comment-146341</link>
		<dc:creator>Liliha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren, have you received a check from them yet?  Are they a well-financed organization?  Not implying otherwise, but I&#039;m just wondering because of an experience with an ad agency/brokerage IRL whose generous deals were apparently too generous -- they ultimately stiffed a lot of publishers and resellers on revenues.

Thanks for your excellent pro-blogging advice, as usual!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren, have you received a check from them yet?  Are they a well-financed organization?  Not implying otherwise, but I&#8217;m just wondering because of an experience with an ad agency/brokerage IRL whose generous deals were apparently too generous &#8212; they ultimately stiffed a lot of publishers and resellers on revenues.</p>
<p>Thanks for your excellent pro-blogging advice, as usual!</p>
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		<title>By: victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s nice to follow your recommendation on chitika, hoping to make some money too or should I say make the kind of money you make when I grow up like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s nice to follow your recommendation on chitika, hoping to make some money too or should I say make the kind of money you make when I grow up like you.</p>
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		<title>By: victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s nice to follow your recommendation on chitika, hoping to make some money too or should I say make the kind of money you make when I grow up like you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s nice to follow your recommendation on chitika, hoping to make some money too or should I say make the kind of money you make when I grow up like you</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Estes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale Estes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes thanks for the information I signed up hope it works also.Thank You</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes thanks for the information I signed up hope it works also.Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Halstead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Halstead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried Chitka (with your referal code, of course!) and was disappointed: the chitka results were small and my adsense numbers also fell.  Removed chitka and adsense rebounded.

Then a couple days ago chitka sent out a tips email and in reading it I realized that I&#039;d totally missed the part of customizing the ads to my sites topics: duh!  Now the ads are much closer to being on-topic and the numbers are somewhat better.

Still, since putting chitka back on the pages (it&#039;s not as prominent as adsense) the adsense numbers have gone down by 50%.  Could it be that there&#039;s a finite click audience and half of the clicks are now going to chitka?

I need to test over a longer period and see if this is just a coincidence.  

-Jerry

http://www.evconvert.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried Chitka (with your referal code, of course!) and was disappointed: the chitka results were small and my adsense numbers also fell.  Removed chitka and adsense rebounded.</p>
<p>Then a couple days ago chitka sent out a tips email and in reading it I realized that I&#8217;d totally missed the part of customizing the ads to my sites topics: duh!  Now the ads are much closer to being on-topic and the numbers are somewhat better.</p>
<p>Still, since putting chitka back on the pages (it&#8217;s not as prominent as adsense) the adsense numbers have gone down by 50%.  Could it be that there&#8217;s a finite click audience and half of the clicks are now going to chitka?</p>
<p>I need to test over a longer period and see if this is just a coincidence.  </p>
<p>-Jerry</p>
<p><a href="http://www.evconvert.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.evconvert.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been very interested to read the reactions here so far. I&#039;ve chatted a bit with Chitika about the affiliate program and have given them my two cents worth. My feelings include:

- 10% was more than I was expecting and pretty generous
- 12 months is ok - of course I would have preferred something ongoing. Perhaps 10% in the first year and less in an ongoing way?
- Knowing who I have referred would be nice as I&#039;d love to offer personalised tips - however there are privacy issues around this and so it&#039;s difficult for them to negotiate
 - A second tier program would have been nice (ie where publisher A refers publisher B who refers publisher C and A gets a smaller % for referring a referrer). Of course this would be hard to administer and is getting a bit greedy

Remember that I&#039;m arguing from the position of a publisher here so my opinion will of course be biased towards what publishers &#039;get&#039;. Chitika have decided (with some consultation from bloggers) what they have decided and now I think we should get on with the job of making the most out of it. Complaining doesn&#039;t really help anyone. We can argue - but the fact is that 12 months of referrals is better than none - I know I&#039;m going to make the most of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been very interested to read the reactions here so far. I&#8217;ve chatted a bit with Chitika about the affiliate program and have given them my two cents worth. My feelings include:</p>
<p>- 10% was more than I was expecting and pretty generous<br />
- 12 months is ok &#8211; of course I would have preferred something ongoing. Perhaps 10% in the first year and less in an ongoing way?<br />
- Knowing who I have referred would be nice as I&#8217;d love to offer personalised tips &#8211; however there are privacy issues around this and so it&#8217;s difficult for them to negotiate<br />
 &#8211; A second tier program would have been nice (ie where publisher A refers publisher B who refers publisher C and A gets a smaller % for referring a referrer). Of course this would be hard to administer and is getting a bit greedy</p>
<p>Remember that I&#8217;m arguing from the position of a publisher here so my opinion will of course be biased towards what publishers &#8216;get&#8217;. Chitika have decided (with some consultation from bloggers) what they have decided and now I think we should get on with the job of making the most out of it. Complaining doesn&#8217;t really help anyone. We can argue &#8211; but the fact is that 12 months of referrals is better than none &#8211; I know I&#8217;m going to make the most of them.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10% of referral revenue for a year is an incredibly generous cut if you&#039;re in a position to refer quite a few solid sites to Chitika. I think Darren will do very well from this (as he should). 

It&#039;s a win-win-win situation: We get increased revenue from the new mini-mall ads, Chitika makes some money, and Darren gets paid (from Chitika&#039;s share) for taking the time to introduce us to the program. I wish more programs were as generous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10% of referral revenue for a year is an incredibly generous cut if you&#8217;re in a position to refer quite a few solid sites to Chitika. I think Darren will do very well from this (as he should). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a win-win-win situation: We get increased revenue from the new mini-mall ads, Chitika makes some money, and Darren gets paid (from Chitika&#8217;s share) for taking the time to introduce us to the program. I wish more programs were as generous.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true, or maybe Chitika would take a bigger cut.

What I think is hilarious is the rush of posts I&#039;ve just seen today on Chitika from about 20 different bloggers who are now plugging the hell out of the product. 

Sadly most are not disclosing that it&#039;s an affiliate product that they are linking to and interestingly some of them are referring to Darren&#039;s record earnings and review but are not linking to him.

Once again we see people&#039;s true motivations coming to the forefront.

On the 12 month thing, I know why Chitika are doing it but agree that it is short sighted and think other ad programs will probably offer longer term affiliate programs in the future  and take a longer term view of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true, or maybe Chitika would take a bigger cut.</p>
<p>What I think is hilarious is the rush of posts I&#8217;ve just seen today on Chitika from about 20 different bloggers who are now plugging the hell out of the product. </p>
<p>Sadly most are not disclosing that it&#8217;s an affiliate product that they are linking to and interestingly some of them are referring to Darren&#8217;s record earnings and review but are not linking to him.</p>
<p>Once again we see people&#8217;s true motivations coming to the forefront.</p>
<p>On the 12 month thing, I know why Chitika are doing it but agree that it is short sighted and think other ad programs will probably offer longer term affiliate programs in the future  and take a longer term view of things.</p>
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		<title>By: fivecentnickel.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>fivecentnickel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But (arguably) if they didn&#039;t run this program, they could take a smaller cut and still clear just as much, so the publisher would get a bigger slice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But (arguably) if they didn&#8217;t run this program, they could take a smaller cut and still clear just as much, so the publisher would get a bigger slice.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Rowse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Rowse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 10% is paid out of Chitika&#039;s share - you get everything of the audited revenue as it appears on your stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 10% is paid out of Chitika&#8217;s share &#8211; you get everything of the audited revenue as it appears on your stats.</p>
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		<title>By: Swade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren,

A quick query:  Do I only get 90% of my earnings for 12 months?  Or do Chitika pay you 10% of my revenue on top of what they pay me?  In other words, would I have been better paid if I registered with Chitika independantly?

By the way, I&#039;m not worried by this as my earnings are pretty small, but I think it&#039;s an important point to sort out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren,</p>
<p>A quick query:  Do I only get 90% of my earnings for 12 months?  Or do Chitika pay you 10% of my revenue on top of what they pay me?  In other words, would I have been better paid if I registered with Chitika independantly?</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m not worried by this as my earnings are pretty small, but I think it&#8217;s an important point to sort out.</p>
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		<title>By: fivecentnickel.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>fivecentnickel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first reaction was... Holy crap! Darren&#039;s gonna make a mint over the next year. Their plan actually sounds quite generous, and I think it&#039;s a good business decision, as it will keep people like Darren working hard to keep driving new signups, otherwise the referral earnings will dry up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first reaction was&#8230; Holy crap! Darren&#8217;s gonna make a mint over the next year. Their plan actually sounds quite generous, and I think it&#8217;s a good business decision, as it will keep people like Darren working hard to keep driving new signups, otherwise the referral earnings will dry up.</p>
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