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		<title>By: DesignerElla</title>
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		<dc:creator>DesignerElla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always had great response (overwhelming) when I put up ads on a writer&#039;s freelance site (recommend that even though they may not know your blogging platform, they&#039;re real writers, and it makes a difference) and here on the Job Boards. ;-)

Recently with Twitter, not so much, but that&#039;s what experimenting&#039;s for. It&#039;s a new network Twitter and pretty small.

Anyway, I think people do respond to something &quot;more&quot;. Even if it&#039;s just a high quality setting with a casual friendly environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always had great response (overwhelming) when I put up ads on a writer&#8217;s freelance site (recommend that even though they may not know your blogging platform, they&#8217;re real writers, and it makes a difference) and here on the Job Boards. ;-)</p>
<p>Recently with Twitter, not so much, but that&#8217;s what experimenting&#8217;s for. It&#8217;s a new network Twitter and pretty small.</p>
<p>Anyway, I think people do respond to something &#8220;more&#8221;. Even if it&#8217;s just a high quality setting with a casual friendly environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy The Blogging Poet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy The Blogging Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see here... We want to know if we should pay writers and if so, how much? Internet sharecropping, typical Web 2,0 mentality, why pay the suckers when they&#039;re willing to write for free?

That, my friends, will be the death of Web 2.0 as people begin to wizen to this modern day form of slavery called &quot;user generated content.&quot; (Much of it is in-fact stolen content.)

At the Blogsboro Network ( http://bloggingpoet.squarespace.com/blogsboro-network-websites/ ) we&#039;ve decided to do things differently. As the founder of the network I pay our writers exactly the same amount I pay myself. While we are a new network launched in November and still quite small, we are owned by our writers. As one who has been blogging since 2000 I&#039;ve watched these trends very carefully and as the first born son of a Southern sharecropper I look at Web 2.0 and think of the horror my father would feel if he were to see all these people flocking to give away everything they have of value when he, himself, ran away from home to escape the landlord and join the Army.

I&#039;ve given our writers (my partners) an equal portion of all my work for the last 8 years. Will we become a success? I don&#039;t know. Will I build a business on profiting off the works of others while paying them little if anything in return? NEVER!

Web 2.0 will die because it is built on crap and slave labor. Quality and people will be the hallmarks of Web 3.0 and I&#039;m happy to say that Blogsboro.com is showing the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see here&#8230; We want to know if we should pay writers and if so, how much? Internet sharecropping, typical Web 2,0 mentality, why pay the suckers when they&#8217;re willing to write for free?</p>
<p>That, my friends, will be the death of Web 2.0 as people begin to wizen to this modern day form of slavery called &#8220;user generated content.&#8221; (Much of it is in-fact stolen content.)</p>
<p>At the Blogsboro Network ( <a href="http://bloggingpoet.squarespace.com/blogsboro-network-websites/" rel="nofollow">http://bloggingpoet.squarespace.com/blogsboro-network-websites/</a> ) we&#8217;ve decided to do things differently. As the founder of the network I pay our writers exactly the same amount I pay myself. While we are a new network launched in November and still quite small, we are owned by our writers. As one who has been blogging since 2000 I&#8217;ve watched these trends very carefully and as the first born son of a Southern sharecropper I look at Web 2.0 and think of the horror my father would feel if he were to see all these people flocking to give away everything they have of value when he, himself, ran away from home to escape the landlord and join the Army.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve given our writers (my partners) an equal portion of all my work for the last 8 years. Will we become a success? I don&#8217;t know. Will I build a business on profiting off the works of others while paying them little if anything in return? NEVER!</p>
<p>Web 2.0 will die because it is built on crap and slave labor. Quality and people will be the hallmarks of Web 3.0 and I&#8217;m happy to say that Blogsboro.com is showing the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Quinn :: Blog Archive &#187; Building a Better Blog? &#8230; Really?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Quinn :: Blog Archive &#187; Building a Better Blog? &#8230; Really?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 05:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Acceso Binario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acceso Binario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Con la vista de AOL puesta en Weblogs, Inc y con los comentarios de Jason Calcalanis acerca de las ganancias obtenidas con Adsense (el nuevo caso de éxito que publica Google) las redes de weblogs empezaron a proliferarse con una velocidad increíble. Problogger.net tiene unos posts interesantes sobre esto Sin ir más lejos, yo mismo evalúo la posibilidad de crear una. Los grandes problemas con los que me encuentro son: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Con la vista de AOL puesta en Weblogs, Inc y con los comentarios de Jason Calcalanis acerca de las ganancias obtenidas con Adsense (el nuevo caso de éxito que publica Google) las redes de weblogs empezaron a proliferarse con una velocidad increíble. Problogger.net tiene unos posts interesantes sobre esto Sin ir más lejos, yo mismo evalúo la posibilidad de crear una. Los grandes problemas con los que me encuentro son: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ReveNews - Jim Kukral</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReveNews - Jim Kukral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blog Network Mania, Get In The Game&lt;/strong&gt;

Blog networks are all the craze these days. Why? Because there&#039;s money to be made of course! Every week it seems a new network pops up, and that&#039;s a good thing. Online publishing is finally starting to come into its own, as a viable business model no...</description>
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<p>Blog networks are all the craze these days. Why? Because there&#8217;s money to be made of course! Every week it seems a new network pops up, and that&#8217;s a good thing. Online publishing is finally starting to come into its own, as a viable business model no&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: How To Build A Successful Blog Network? (Hint: Please all the stakeholders!) &#187; Webby Media Blog Network</title>
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		<dc:creator>How To Build A Successful Blog Network? (Hint: Please all the stakeholders!) &#187; Webby Media Blog Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Accordingly, there are plenty of conversations about what makes a successful blog network. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blog Marketing, Blog Promotion for Newbies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Back Alley, Dark Corner Types Not Allowed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog Marketing, Blog Promotion for Newbies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Back Alley, Dark Corner Types Not Allowed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 15:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On Friday, I believe Darren cemented the same thought when he says &#8220;the fact is that over the last three years of blogging - for some reason that baffles us all a little - the three of us have built some level of credibility, trust and/or respect with those who read our sites.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On Friday, I believe Darren cemented the same thought when he says &#8220;the fact is that over the last three years of blogging &#8211; for some reason that baffles us all a little &#8211; the three of us have built some level of credibility, trust and/or respect with those who read our sites.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 14:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what you&#039;ve written is right on.  Though I&#039;ll add that it helps to have such a large traffic flow to spead your message across.

Our Interment site is perhaps our largest property in terms of revenue and reach, and anytime I&#039;ve needed to hire help, I could post a notice, and get deluged with e-mails.   But in that case, it doesn&#039;t have anything to do with my credentials.  I actually hide behind the site, and don&#039;t make myself known.  People just like the site, and want to be a part of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what you&#8217;ve written is right on.  Though I&#8217;ll add that it helps to have such a large traffic flow to spead your message across.</p>
<p>Our Interment site is perhaps our largest property in terms of revenue and reach, and anytime I&#8217;ve needed to hire help, I could post a notice, and get deluged with e-mails.   But in that case, it doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with my credentials.  I actually hide behind the site, and don&#8217;t make myself known.  People just like the site, and want to be a part of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun Kumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 03:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the major points for why Weblogsinc, b5media, 9rules etc are successful have more or less already been said in the replies here. If you see someone who has been successful, you will want to be be a part of that. If it interests you, you will pitch ideas, thoughts, assistance, ask them for help, suggestions etc.

Darren, I think I sent you a message asking about WordPress themes a while back &amp; also Duncan. I talked to Jeremy a long time ago about this same stuff after reading some of his posts on SitePoint.

I found 9rules while searching a long time ago, and eventually finding Forever Geek, that&#039;s when I started reading more about the network, and its success.

&quot;This sounds totally arrogant and to be honest I laugh at the thought of people wanting to join an ordinary fellow like me at anything&quot;.

This doesn&#039;t sound arrogant, I guess some people could see it that way, but I don&#039;t.

Anyway, the point is that you have a nice blog here with a lot of useful information for people who want to start blogging in general, or those trying to develop a network. (Me?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the major points for why Weblogsinc, b5media, 9rules etc are successful have more or less already been said in the replies here. If you see someone who has been successful, you will want to be be a part of that. If it interests you, you will pitch ideas, thoughts, assistance, ask them for help, suggestions etc.</p>
<p>Darren, I think I sent you a message asking about WordPress themes a while back &amp; also Duncan. I talked to Jeremy a long time ago about this same stuff after reading some of his posts on SitePoint.</p>
<p>I found 9rules while searching a long time ago, and eventually finding Forever Geek, that&#8217;s when I started reading more about the network, and its success.</p>
<p>&#8220;This sounds totally arrogant and to be honest I laugh at the thought of people wanting to join an ordinary fellow like me at anything&#8221;.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t sound arrogant, I guess some people could see it that way, but I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Anyway, the point is that you have a nice blog here with a lot of useful information for people who want to start blogging in general, or those trying to develop a network. (Me?)</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Charles Morin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Charles Morin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 02:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Darren, you sure do get a lot of BOGU.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I suspect that people want to be associated with you because A) you&#039;re successful at it already B)you have been helpful already, so people feel they can trust you not to screw them and... yeah, I think that&#039;s all.  So basically, it comes down to trust.  I for one, would be more than happy to blog with/for you. But I&#039;m still working on figuring stuff out, so perhaps I&#039;ll pitch an idea I&#039;ve been mulling over once I feel like I can do well enough at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I suspect that people want to be associated with you because A) you&#8217;re successful at it already B)you have been helpful already, so people feel they can trust you not to screw them and&#8230; yeah, I think that&#8217;s all.  So basically, it comes down to trust.  I for one, would be more than happy to blog with/for you. But I&#8217;m still working on figuring stuff out, so perhaps I&#8217;ll pitch an idea I&#8217;ve been mulling over once I feel like I can do well enough at it.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Why are Some Blog Networks So Successful? The Blog Herald: more blog news more often</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Why are Some Blog Networks So Successful? The Blog Herald: more blog news more often</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry
to me fair Darren, or I for that matter, would have to create a false identity and try to start up a standalone blogging network to actually be able to give a reasoned response on that one...maybe an interesting experiment :-)
Certainly if anyone has done so and would like to discuss it for a post I&#039;d be happy to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry<br />
to me fair Darren, or I for that matter, would have to create a false identity and try to start up a standalone blogging network to actually be able to give a reasoned response on that one&#8230;maybe an interesting experiment :-)<br />
Certainly if anyone has done so and would like to discuss it for a post I&#8217;d be happy to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s simple-- you are succeeding because you are making smart choices.  You&#039;re talking about it in the right place.

You are targeting the right market-- new bloggers that are driven enough to have found you.  How can you go wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s simple&#8211; you are succeeding because you are making smart choices.  You&#8217;re talking about it in the right place.</p>
<p>You are targeting the right market&#8211; new bloggers that are driven enough to have found you.  How can you go wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: FMF</title>
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		<dc:creator>FMF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psm. 5:12 is my explanation.</description>
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		<title>By: Barry Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So c&#039;mon, Darren. How about a post or two on building a network and attracting bloggers *from scratch*? How would you go about it if you were in that position, knowing what you know now?

Or is that classified?  ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So c&#8217;mon, Darren. How about a post or two on building a network and attracting bloggers *from scratch*? How would you go about it if you were in that position, knowing what you know now?</p>
<p>Or is that classified?  ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I need is one guess as to which blog network owner that would be (and no it&#039;s not me).</description>
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		<title>By: b5media.com - a blogging network</title>
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		<dc:creator>b5media.com - a blogging network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Darren, in typical Darren fashion, refocused Paul&#8217;s refocusing by asking &#8220;Why are some networks so succesful?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Darren, in typical Darren fashion, refocused Paul&#8217;s refocusing by asking &#8220;Why are some networks so succesful?&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Kaufmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Kaufmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the points about charm and leadership, but I also wonder if it&#039;s a numbers game.

The blog network owner that was disappointed -- how well did he get the word out?

I can see that being a factor -- the more people who know about it, the better your chances of one of those people being interested.  Of course, people might have totally discounted the other network after hearing about it, which goes back to the points everyone made.  People gravitate toward success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the points about charm and leadership, but I also wonder if it&#8217;s a numbers game.</p>
<p>The blog network owner that was disappointed &#8212; how well did he get the word out?</p>
<p>I can see that being a factor &#8212; the more people who know about it, the better your chances of one of those people being interested.  Of course, people might have totally discounted the other network after hearing about it, which goes back to the points everyone made.  People gravitate toward success.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin (HomeOfficeVoice)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin (HomeOfficeVoice)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren, you&#039;ve hit it on the head. The reason why you are getting so many applications I think is because of the people involved - all highly successful bloggers in their own right. 

And I think we&#039;re all savvy enough to see that your launch of b5 last week was very well planned and thought out. Even the openness of Jermey and yourself to respond to my post, shows people that you have your heart in this venture. And people respect the fact that you are being very open and nothing is set in stone.

You&#039;d be surpirsed by how many people out their take your word as gospel in regards to professional blogging ... so get over the modesty ;-) and learn to live with your fame ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren, you&#8217;ve hit it on the head. The reason why you are getting so many applications I think is because of the people involved &#8211; all highly successful bloggers in their own right. </p>
<p>And I think we&#8217;re all savvy enough to see that your launch of b5 last week was very well planned and thought out. Even the openness of Jermey and yourself to respond to my post, shows people that you have your heart in this venture. And people respect the fact that you are being very open and nothing is set in stone.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d be surpirsed by how many people out their take your word as gospel in regards to professional blogging &#8230; so get over the modesty ;-) and learn to live with your fame ;-)</p>
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