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		<title>By: Hittman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got hit with what looked like nonsense spam a couple of weeks ago - legit looking names with no website attached, obivously random e-mail, and a single nonsense text string of about 20 characters.  It seemed pointless, but I suspected someone was testing something, so instead of deleting them I just left them in the askimet queue.  

Sure enough, a couple of weeks later I got blasted from the same IP address with spam that DID have multiple links in it.  I&#039;ve since added their ip addresses (there were only three, all from the same source) to WP-Ban, which has kept them at bay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got hit with what looked like nonsense spam a couple of weeks ago &#8211; legit looking names with no website attached, obivously random e-mail, and a single nonsense text string of about 20 characters.  It seemed pointless, but I suspected someone was testing something, so instead of deleting them I just left them in the askimet queue.  </p>
<p>Sure enough, a couple of weeks later I got blasted from the same IP address with spam that DID have multiple links in it.  I&#8217;ve since added their ip addresses (there were only three, all from the same source) to WP-Ban, which has kept them at bay.</p>
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		<title>By: inside</title>
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		<dc:creator>inside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vraiment tres beau site et surtout tres utile,j&#039;ai decouvert ici les Dolls et c&#039;est genial. Merci a vous. Site de qualite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vraiment tres beau site et surtout tres utile,j&#8217;ai decouvert ici les Dolls et c&#8217;est genial. Merci a vous. Site de qualite.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess a dumb ass spam comment without a link is one that is irrelevant (as opposed to irreverent) to the blog post topic. Such a working definition would be fair enough even if the occasional comment of a naive innocent gets deleted for expressing their love for your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess a dumb ass spam comment without a link is one that is irrelevant (as opposed to irreverent) to the blog post topic. Such a working definition would be fair enough even if the occasional comment of a naive innocent gets deleted for expressing their love for your site.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl-Friedrich Lenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl-Friedrich Lenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am hiding the discussion and trackback part of my blog in a different site mirroring all posts. That way I get a zero pagerank for that shadow blog and the comment and trackback spammers don&#039;t even try to get through my defenses (even if I beat back every attempt, that causes a load on my server I would rather avoid in the first place).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hiding the discussion and trackback part of my blog in a different site mirroring all posts. That way I get a zero pagerank for that shadow blog and the comment and trackback spammers don&#8217;t even try to get through my defenses (even if I beat back every attempt, that causes a load on my server I would rather avoid in the first place).</p>
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		<title>By: John (SYNTAGMA)</title>
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		<dc:creator>John (SYNTAGMA)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason Calacanis, on his personal blog, which uses BlogSmith (in-house, I think), gets you to validate a comment by clicking on an email to your given address. It seems to work quite well. Another step in the process, I know, but if a site is worth commenting on, not that heavy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Calacanis, on his personal blog, which uses BlogSmith (in-house, I think), gets you to validate a comment by clicking on an email to your given address. It seems to work quite well. Another step in the process, I know, but if a site is worth commenting on, not that heavy.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Comments, Trackbacks And Spammers : Pig Work : Weblog of Freelance Designer Steven Clark aka Norty Pig, Hobart, Tasmania</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Comments, Trackbacks And Spammers : Pig Work : Weblog of Freelance Designer Steven Clark aka Norty Pig, Hobart, Tasmania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] acks enabled and that&#8217;d be fine and glorious to me except for the existence of these dumb ass comment spammers. 	Yes I could put up moderat [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] acks enabled and that&#8217;d be fine and glorious to me except for the existence of these dumb ass comment spammers. 	Yes I could put up moderat [...]</p>
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		<title>By: IO ERROR</title>
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		<dc:creator>IO ERROR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 06:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren, if you have deleted 2900 spams today, you&#039;re already losing the battle. Break out the heavy artillery: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ioerror.us/software/bad-behavior/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bad Behavior&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren, if you have deleted 2900 spams today, you&#8217;re already losing the battle. Break out the heavy artillery: <a href="http://www.ioerror.us/software/bad-behavior/" rel="nofollow">Bad Behavior</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could this be a way to do referral spam? If they&#039;re not linking in the content of their message, they may be doing it in your logs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could this be a way to do referral spam? If they&#8217;re not linking in the content of their message, they may be doing it in your logs.</p>
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		<title>By: Lumpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah,

Spammers are a pain.  I got hit hard a few months past at lumpyscorner.  I use Movable Type for that site.  I now use MTblacklist and spamlookup plugin.  Jack Vinson recommended the spamlookup to me.  I have written a number of post at lumpysconer on this subject.  If you are using Movable Type you may want to stop by and search my site for it.  

and Anrreas, MTblack list does monitor the trackback...

Exios and I use WordPress for radiostatic.am.  I am sure we will experiment with the plugins you suggest here.  I will likely post a blog or two about it.

The bottom line is that this is an ongoing war.  As soon as something is written to fix it, they will try and figure out a way around it.  Based on my dealing with this issue, my opinion is that the best defense is to use the plug-ins available AND make your forms unique in layout and name.  The more generic your templates and file names are the sooner a bot will find them.

I managed to go weeks spam free by just rearranging forms and changing names... 

Unfortumately, nothing is bulletproof...



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah,</p>
<p>Spammers are a pain.  I got hit hard a few months past at lumpyscorner.  I use Movable Type for that site.  I now use MTblacklist and spamlookup plugin.  Jack Vinson recommended the spamlookup to me.  I have written a number of post at lumpysconer on this subject.  If you are using Movable Type you may want to stop by and search my site for it.  </p>
<p>and Anrreas, MTblack list does monitor the trackback&#8230;</p>
<p>Exios and I use WordPress for radiostatic.am.  I am sure we will experiment with the plugins you suggest here.  I will likely post a blog or two about it.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that this is an ongoing war.  As soon as something is written to fix it, they will try and figure out a way around it.  Based on my dealing with this issue, my opinion is that the best defense is to use the plug-ins available AND make your forms unique in layout and name.  The more generic your templates and file names are the sooner a bot will find them.</p>
<p>I managed to go weeks spam free by just rearranging forms and changing names&#8230; </p>
<p>Unfortumately, nothing is bulletproof&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think those inane stupid spams are shots accross the bow. In other words if they don&#039;t get deleted, the &quot;real&quot; spam starts coming. Also look for gibberish. Those are so they can search on the gibberish later via google or whatever to find the sites that don&#039;t clean up. Then they get added to the priority attack queue.

At least that&#039;s my theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think those inane stupid spams are shots accross the bow. In other words if they don&#8217;t get deleted, the &#8220;real&#8221; spam starts coming. Also look for gibberish. Those are so they can search on the gibberish later via google or whatever to find the sites that don&#8217;t clean up. Then they get added to the priority attack queue.</p>
<p>At least that&#8217;s my theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Merrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Merrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, though it may at first appear to be dumb, the spammers are not stupid - there must be some rationale behind it. I would agree with Michael, though I&#039;ve no evidence for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, though it may at first appear to be dumb, the spammers are not stupid &#8211; there must be some rationale behind it. I would agree with Michael, though I&#8217;ve no evidence for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Vix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After a quiet few days the spammers are back but still with links. Thankfully there&#039;s a moderation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a quiet few days the spammers are back but still with links. Thankfully there&#8217;s a moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least I know I am not alone.  During the daytime, I get the poker spam and at night, they send me the sex spam.  And I fight and fight - heard that MT is building something to block spams in the Trackback.  You can manipulate the comment script, so that one who is posting a comment has to preview first, before publishing.  A wo step process, that basically eliminated spam from my comments.  BUt Trackback spam is still there.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least I know I am not alone.  During the daytime, I get the poker spam and at night, they send me the sex spam.  And I fight and fight &#8211; heard that MT is building something to block spams in the Trackback.  You can manipulate the comment script, so that one who is posting a comment has to preview first, before publishing.  A wo step process, that basically eliminated spam from my comments.  BUt Trackback spam is still there.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been doing some research and came upon a site where all of the comments were from casino spammers. Not just a few comment spams but thousands and on each and every post.

Not every blog uses anti spam preotection techniques to reduce or eliminate the spam posts. One thing spammer hate and that is work, so make it slightly harder to post a comment and they give up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been doing some research and came upon a site where all of the comments were from casino spammers. Not just a few comment spams but thousands and on each and every post.</p>
<p>Not every blog uses anti spam preotection techniques to reduce or eliminate the spam posts. One thing spammer hate and that is work, so make it slightly harder to post a comment and they give up.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren,

 I get spam all the time , I currently delete them by hand, is there some sought of spam filter  I can get that deletes them automatically?. I have movable type where can I get this spam plugin.

Thanks Paul </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren,</p>
<p> I get spam all the time , I currently delete them by hand, is there some sought of spam filter  I can get that deletes them automatically?. I have movable type where can I get this spam plugin.</p>
<p>Thanks Paul</p>
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		<title>By: duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>picked up last week, eventually they sneak in URL&#039;s. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>picked up last week, eventually they sneak in URL&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moncur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Moncur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The text sounds like the last wave of a couple of thousand poker spams I received, but they had URLs. (All caught by my filters.)

I&#039;ve seen this done by non-idiots once before - the idea is that they spam tons of blogs with no URLs, see which ones actually show up, and return to those sites with real spam. 

Also, the default in current versions of Wordpress is to moderate only the first comment from each party, so they may also be hoping webmasters will approve their &quot;love your site&quot; comments and inadvertently approve the spam later.

But there&#039;s no shortage of dumb spammers, so that&#039;s probably what you&#039;ve got on your hands...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The text sounds like the last wave of a couple of thousand poker spams I received, but they had URLs. (All caught by my filters.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen this done by non-idiots once before &#8211; the idea is that they spam tons of blogs with no URLs, see which ones actually show up, and return to those sites with real spam. </p>
<p>Also, the default in current versions of Wordpress is to moderate only the first comment from each party, so they may also be hoping webmasters will approve their &#8220;love your site&#8221; comments and inadvertently approve the spam later.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s no shortage of dumb spammers, so that&#8217;s probably what you&#8217;ve got on your hands&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: eckes</title>
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		<dc:creator>eckes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most often this is due to the spam script sending a Website field which has the wrong name and therefore does not get picked up. Some also send links in the text where it is filtered by some comment scripts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most often this is due to the spam script sending a Website field which has the wrong name and therefore does not get picked up. Some also send links in the text where it is filtered by some comment scripts.</p>
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