Are you saying that this is NOT a good idea?

Carmelo Lisciotto

Somebody could come up and win it all from nowhere. But please enough of Florida already!

I am relative newbie of SEO and I am just starting to use Blog and Ping. Being a MyYahoo account holder, naturally I added my feed to the Yahoo aggregator.
I just see the blog and ping as a great way to get the indexing quicker and updated more often. Of course, Im adding content to my blog and web pages too as I believe as well content is valuable. If the internet is a information tool essentially, can it not be more relevant that the best information gets noticed and appraised better.

I do feel that “gentle” seo practices over the long haul is probably better anyway. Those that are making a quick buck with black hat technologies get caught out, then probably move on to other sources of quick income and start all over again.

Although content IS king, there a number of sites that are just small pages, flash sites or have no keywords in the few content pages that rank well in Google. Okay, not the most competitve keywords.
i.e Robot. A flash site with no content ranks #3 just because it has hundreds of quality backlinks. Obviously keywords like digital camera are so competitive there are numerous factors on the ranking position.

Blog and Ping is a good idea in itself. It does seem though that not many businesses are to be able to produce an idea or technology online that is not exploitable by fraudsters. I think its time that these things are thought over more by the creators. Blogs will be become the new target where the Forums were before.

I am also very fed up with all the competing technologies online. The web is a birds nest of software and practices designed by companies all wanting their share of the online revenue, with no collaboration toward the end user in mind.

Better than 75% of my traffic comes from Google, and this is with 5+ years of stats to back it up. Getting the links to my site DEFINITELY help, and having links from quality blogs always does the trick.

Flirting with a 5 Google pagerank right now, and ALWAYS at the top of my searches. There is one great thing about the blogs – if you have quality content AND you have a quality RSS feed, you’ll move up in ALL the search engines, every time, guaranteed.

And a 5 PR for my niche site is excellent.

http://www.pressedpenny.com

Google is tough. They love .edu’s and .gov’s. Very hard to get.

Thank you

Vladimir

This is Vladimir from Pingoat.com.

Here are the real facts about pinging your blog:

- a ping helps you for updating your information on different websites

- a ping won’t deliver traffic to your blog, a ping will generate indirect traffic to your blog by sending requests to webpages that are using RSS feeds for content.

- a blog is just a blog, it’s not spamming, you won’t get banned unless, you are really spamming (check http://www.spologspot.com – it’s an extension of pingoat)

Hope this solves the problem a little bit.

It is very true.

Googles algorithim is leap years ahead of any other Search Engine.

Google knows what the growth pattern for a real site is and will compare your site against that Blueprint. If you grow too fast… if you have an overnight explosion of incoming links… if you deviate too far in anyway from that Blueprint, Google flags your site.

Mike (#14) is absolutely correct though. At the end of the day, assuming you don’t make any serious breaches of Google’s policies, everything good you do is a plus, and everything bad you do is a minus. So just try to do MORE good than bad :)

If you look at the top 3-5 sites in almost any Google search, you will see that those sites are ALMOST ALWAYS well written. As the saying goes… content is king… but GOOD content will rule the (Google) world.

Michael Valiant
TheMarketersReport.com

By the way, interesting point by @Danger Stevens (first comment) that Google values slow growing sites to quick growing ones. I’m interested to know how true that is!

Thanks, hope you get 6 figured soon.

Bottom line: Whether your site is a blog or just a bunch of html pages, content is king. My neighbor has a website that he earns about $1000 per month from click-through ads. He is ranked number six in Google for a very popular search phrase right now. He asked me to take a look at his site. The first thing I did was read all 20 pages of it- great writing and great reading! Then I looked and he had no H1 tags (a big SEO no-no), lousy page titles (did not contain the search phrase he wanted at all), a bad meta description, and way too many keywords.

Yet, he was and still is number six in Google for this popular search term!

Bottom line: This guy did everything anti-SEO, but still got to the top through good writing and good content. It just goes to show that if you pour your heart and mind into a site and make it content rich- you’ll go to the top no matter what. Content is king! Forget the tricks.

I realize what he is talking about, and you obviously realize it, but the vast majority of internet users will not.

What I am trying to express is that it is important to explain what you are talking about. This article is seriously misleading if you do not understand the nuances of the Blog world.

I felt compelled to leave the original comment because this article came up high in a search I ran on Google. That means alot of beginners who hear about “Blog & Ping” will also stumble across the article, and then leave with a very incorrect picture of how everything works.

If you are talking about “talking about programs and scripts that ping other blogs in mass”, then SAY you are talking about “talking about programs and scripts that ping other blogs in mass” and try to be objective and mention that there is a good side to the whole Ping thing, which you can then even spin it into a second post if you want.

I think Darren was talking about programs and scripts that ping other blogs in mass (thousands at a time) with garbage content, with the sole purpose of getting a link. I don’t think (and hope) he is not talking about bloggers pinging other blogs with relevant pings. There is a big difference.

Its people who blog and ping thousands of unrelated sites that is the problem.

I get dozens, sometimes hundeds of spam comments linking to gambling sites and viagra and other undesirable things in one day! Based on the IP addresses and the fact that the comments are identical formatted and appear very rapidly means they are automated and not manually entered.

What was interesting is the most of the spam I am getting on one blog (that doesn’t require an account to comment… yet) is automated comment spam, and not ping spam. It appears, based on the nearly identical spam comments in a short period of time all with different IPs, that they are using zombie (infected) computers to post their spam.

I think that over time its going to push blogs into what forums eventually had to do… require an account with e-mail validation to post a comment. If you remember, many of the original forums and discussion boards didn’t require an account to post, and usenet, which preceeded them definately didn’t. And mass spamming was a result. I think blogs will be okay, just as forums have survived. Just being able to post comments without an account might go away.